The Shaw Brothers: The 36th Chamber of Shaolin (1978)

Gather together from the cosmic reaches of the universe. Here in this great screening room with comfortable recliners are the most powerful forces of good ever assembled.

Keith, show him just doing like more random, like show him doing like, you know, working with the pole.

Terry, read with one eye.

Like put your.

Tilt your head sideways so you're reading with one eye on subtitles. One eye watching the screen. The actual stuff on screen. The chameleon technique.

Derek, I feel like I just wasted everyone's time. And the power twins Zapp and Jordan with their magical lemur snort. Dedicated to fumbling their way through movies one forgotten gem at a time. This week we watch the 1978 Kung Fu Classic. The 36th Chamber of Shaolin is fumbling through film. If you want to learn Kung fu, any monk can take up boxing. There are 35 chambers here teaching Kung fu. If you want to learn, all you have to do is say so. You have any special reason for wanting to learn it? Before I came here, I saw people killed by the Manchus for no good reason. So unfair. If those people knew Saolin Kung fu, they could at least defend themselves, make up armies and then. Blessings. Blessings, Santa. Good Buddhists never entertain such thoughts. Never say that again here. But I'm determined to learn.

You tell me I can.

Where do I start? Master, I've made up my mind. I have to learn. There are 35 phases of it. Where would you like to start? I'm not sure. Which one is the best, the highest, the one at the top. Hello and welcome to another one of a kind, genre defining, brand new episode of Fumbling through film. The only show I guarantee dares to bring together three dudes to talk about movies. These aren't just any movies though.

Nope.

Nope, nope, nope.

Exactly. Thank you. Nope, nope, nope. Indeed.

These are the ones we've missed, overlooked or feel are simply worth revisiting. I try to fool myself every week, but I can't. It is any movie. It's really any movie.

You just have to believe it's all about. A good Buddhist would believe that it's not any movie.

A good Buddhist would understand the overlap of all things and would see that, yes, truly, in any movie, a good

Buddhist would believe everything is self contained and never would, but never.

The 37th Chamber.

The movie Chamber. My name is Derek and I'm a fumbler. That one. Joining me here in the Fumble Dome, our reclaimed planetarium that we got a police auction that I'm. I'm thinking we need to put 32 to 36 chambers in here. I Don't want to commit to all 36. That's a lot.

Yeah. We'll just add up as we feel like it.

I think the chambers of podcasting. Anyway. His. He's the prime minister of fumbling and film. He's Keith.

Hey, what's up, kg fumbler extraordinaire. Obviously completed all 36.

Completed all 36 chambers. Wow.

Yeah.

He's a completionist. You got the platinum trophy for the Shaolin Temple.

That's the only way you get to be an extraordinaire.

I see. Dang it. I knew I should have beat all those chambers.

Yeah. That one out there still falling off the logs in the water, trying to eat some rice and stuff. It's Dr. Dre of Kansas, Terry.

So hungry.

This was some rice.

I can't get across these logs.

It's bowls of popcorn, though, for. For us here in the dome.

Rice and popcorn.

Wet popcorn.

I can smell that popcorn smell from across the. Across the pond. I'm trying to leap across some logs to get it.

You're smelling like British popcorn.

Yes.

Across the pond.

Across the pond. Yeah. Yeah. It smells amazing.

Maybe it's a. A batang.

What?

The tang. It's an. It's an animal that smells like popcorn.

What? I have no idea what you're talking about.

What? Come on.

Hold on. What is this? A bidet?

A batang.

But is it like a cat? A dog? Some sort of, like, marsupial? It sounds like a marsupial.

Boy, like. But tang doesn't autocomplete anything. It's like something.

You just made this up. I'm not gonna lie.

That smells like popcorn.

I'm saying the wrong thing.

Probably you are. It's binturong.

Ah, there you go. Yeah. Sorry.

Also known as a bearcat is a Southeast Asian mammal that famously smells like buttered popcorn.

I don't know why I was thinking patang. Yeah.

And we have one pronounced in a way. Let's see.

No, it's not. I just.

I'm gonna find out a minute here.

Said the wrong thing. But we have one at the Atlanta Zoo, and it does smell like popcorn when you walk by it.

It's like a really strong smell.

I. It's legit. That you can tell. It's like, wow, that's popcorn. And not like, just, you know, animal poop or something.

Is it. Is it like trying to lure humans in to kill them?

Yes, probably.

Yeah, probably. Yeah.

But the. You know, like when you type in pronunciation in Google and gives it a little mouth.

Yeah.

It says B is how to pronounce it?

Yeah, no, I. I just. I grabbed the wrong word.

That's on me. It kind of looks like a badger with some, like. Like, unkempt whiskers.

It looks like. Like a really grumpy animal.

Yeah, it's like, he might smell great, but, gee, Buzz, I wouldn't want to

get close to that thing.

No, I saw that thing.

Like, I'm, like, walking down an alley. It smells like popcorn. I turn, look in the alley, and there's that thing waiting for me down there.

It's.

It's. It's a cage. Actually has a. Like, a white panel van with no windows, just luring you in.

You think it's a pervert?

It might be.

I mean, no, it's gonna eat you, probably.

It's an herbivore, a candy.

It.

I mean, it could eat you, but it won't.

I guess we're all good then. Maybe just eating a lot of popcorn. That's what it is.

Would not want to mess with that thing. I learned something. This podcast is educational.

That's right. Every week we talk about some animal Keith thinks of and

something I mispronounced. Look, I. I'm Fumbler extraordinaire, not Zugieber extraordinaire.

Oh, we'll get you there. We'll get you there.

Oh, I only know what the Wildcats tell me.

Okay, well, I doubt they have the power of binturong, but you know what? We got the power of

podcast.

Yeah, I was hoping you were gonna say kung Fu.

Yeah, well, yeah, we're, like, adjacent Kung fu.

Adjacent Podcasting is like kung fu of the vocal medium.

It is. I agree. Yes. So I don't even know what to say after that. I agree. That's it. Can't even expound upon it.

Enough said.

Yeah, but what I can expound upon is what we do here.

Yes.

I have scissors in my hand.

Why?

Because they're sitting here.

Okay.

Oh, I thought it's something to do with expounding power.

I use it to punctuate. I can expound upon our show.

Worried it's, like, about to threaten us? Give us a line.

Snip, snip, Terry, don't bring up.

You just slam them. Stab them down into your desk, like, for emphasis.

Yes. Every week we watch movies here, but not just any movies. It's really not any movie, but it is any movie. Every month, one of us chooses a genre, a theme, a guiding light, some sort of series of chambers to master to become a monk and watch movies too. And each one of US chooses a movie that adheres to that, and on the fourth week, we choose a wild card. But this is. This is DTFY2, down to fumble year two.

Yep.

And this is month three of that month, which is a Terry month. So, Terry, why don't you let us. Let us and the listener know what it is we're in for.

I chose the theme of Shaw Brothers Films.

Shaw Brothers Films, which I have learned is a legendary Hong Kong film production studio.

That's right. That's right. Martial arts. And mostly martial arts. Yeah. But they made hundreds of movies. Hundreds, Hundreds. A lot that never even made it.

Not straight up martial arts. There's like martial arts in some weird mix of way.

Yeah. So, Terry, what'd you choose for the first week?

I chose the Super Inframan.

Super Inframan, which is like kind of like Ultraman.

Yep.

Power Rangers predecessor sort of thing.

Yep.

Pretty much guy in suit, doing stuff.

Beating up monsters.

Beating up monsters. Very cool. Monster suits in that movie.

Yeah. I liked it.

I liked it. And then this week was my week, so I chose the legendary. The 36th Chamber of Shaolin.

Yes.

Now, before we talk about. Oh, was from 1978. Now before we talk about.

Okay.

Our viewing of the 36th Chamber of Shaolin from 1978. Or we even do a deep dive. The 36th Chamber of Shaolin from 1975. Did any of us have any previous knowledge, history and. Or experience with the 36 Chamber of Shaolin?

I listened to Wuang Clan albums.

Yeah.

I have. I've seen it before. I own it on Blu Ray, so. Oh, yeah, that's right. I. I am familiar with this film. Very familiar.

I knew of it because of the Wuang Clan. I probably saw it when I was a kid, but I don't remember because the stuff, it would just been on tv.

Yeah.

On the weekends. But I wouldn't like. I. I don't think I ever sat and watched a whole movie like those. I always just like catch bits and pieces and be like.

Yeah.

And then when I got boring, I'd leave. Yeah.

You didn't commit yourself to the full experience.

No, I just want to see dudes doing kung fu.

Yeah.

Plus, like, I'm sure probably WGN or whatever. The.

Yeah.

Main thing, they carried it probably like clips. Stuff out of it as well. Just to fit.

Maybe there. To make it.

To fit it within whatever their little like two hours or whatever memory. Saturday. Yeah. Chunk that they had there.

Yeah. So I may have seen it, but I couldn't tell you. But I watched it now, well, what y' all need to do is you need to sit back and relax because I. I am going to take you relatively close to 36 Chamber of Shaolin in another pet pending fobbler. Steep dive.

I'm gonna go into my meditative state and allow this to come into my brain. Your information?

Yes. Prepare the 36th Chamber of Shaolin. This son of came out on February 2nd of 1978 in Hong Kong. Okay. In the United States it's known as the Master Killer or Shaolin Master Killer.

Wow.

And it came out in June of 1979.

Okay. That's an odd name for it.

Agreed. It is rated R and which I don't understand. And clocks in at a solid 1 hour and 56 minutes. Gets a 7.

They ever go back and readjust ratings?

Yeah. Imagine they do. But they didn't for this one. I don't even know. But it gave it an R rating. I guess the.

It's like one guy disemboweling himself. But you don't really see much.

No. Just tomato blood. Yeah.

Yeah.

It gets a 7.6 on IMDb which is pretty darn high. And 83. Barely eight reviews on Rotten Tomatoes. Only eight? Yep. That's. But it's listed as the Master Killer on Rotten Tomatoes.

Weird. Okay.

Yeah. A school student. And when I. When I read the synopsis first, I'm like, oh, it's got young people in it.

Not really.

A school student who conspires with his teacher and others to overthrow the King dynasty. Sees his family slaughtered at the hands of his enemies. He joins the Shaolin Temple and rigorously studies martial arts to avenge his beloved ones. It had a production budget of undisclosed.

Oh, the secret.

But the AI overview said, oh, the Shaw brothers were good at making movies on cheap. Not that I'm paraphrasing so interesting.

I was curious how much money they have to pay for all the extras that they have lined up like just

like pennies on the dollar. It was made in China.

Yeah.

Made 3 million Hong Kong and unknown numbers elsewhere. Couldn't find anything. I don't think. I don't. I'm sure it was released in theaters or has come back for various things. But.

Yeah.

I don't know. The. The only a little blurb I put on here. Noel Murray of the A.V. club said this 36 chambers nearly hour long training sequence overshadows the rest of the movie. But it's the stuff of action cinema legend.

Wow. You know, it was a long training sequence. I didn't realize an hour long yeah, it is.

It is very long. This movie is an hour 56. You figure an hour of it is a training sequence. 50 of it is pre training sequence.

Yeah.

And then six minutes is climax, like a fight.

Yeah. And then this is like. Okay, we're done.

Yep.

It is directed by Chi Liang liu. He has 26 directing credits. He's got a bunch of acting and stunt credits. But I'm just sticking to directing because he's director. 26 directing credits going back to 1975. Such things as Cat Verse, Rat.

Whoa.

The lady is the boss.

Okay.

My young auntie Dirty Ho.

Oh.

But in 1994, he directed Drunken Master 2.

Oh.

A young martial artist is caught between respecting his pacifist father's wishes or stopping a group of disrespectful foreigners from stealing precious artifacts. It's labeled as a slapstick action comedy. Stars Jackie Chan Ho, Sung Puck and Long Lung T. If I remember correctly,

this movie has a really awesome fight scene.

It's supposed to be amazing. It's. This is the one where it's like known for on IMDb. It's got this one first, then 36 chamber. Wow.

Okay. Yeah, that's. I remember that there's. Yeah, there's some one scene in there. I just like, wow, this is insane. This is insane.

It's Jackie Chan, so I'm sure it is insane. And this is when he was young.

Yeah, this is like really young. Before United States Jackie Chan.

Yeah.

Before Rumble in the Bronx.

Yes, before Rumble in the Bronx.

That we will never forget.

Before he went around The World in 80 Days with Arnold Schwarzenegger.

I guess before he touched Chris Tucker's radio.

Before him and Owen Wilson did Shanghai Nights. And yes, something else.

Kungpow Chicken. Yeah.

Before he was a cop of super proportions.

Yes, before all of those things, he was drunk.

How many more Jackie Chan movies do we know back?

Just Jackie Chan.

My Jackie Chan knowledge is exhausted.

Yeah, I'm running low.

This movie was written by Kwang ni. He has 234 writing credits going all the way back to 1965. They are all movies.

Nice.

Such things as the One Armed Swordsman and the new One Armed Swordsman.

Oh, I love that.

The prodigal boxer. Brutal boxer. The spiritual boxer. Boxer Rebellion. The Boxer from Shantung. I don't know if they're related, but

sounds like Sniper franchise.

I feel like that first one you said I've heard is actually supposed to be pretty good.

Probably he was a bunch of.

Those are Shaw Brothers movies too. I wonder if he was like the

head writer he might have been. He also wrote Death Kick.

That sounds cool.

But in 1979, he wrote Dirty Ho. Come on. The 11th son of the king Emperor who is the kung fu master, is visiting Canton incognito. While there, he meets a loudmouth thief who he takes under his wing, while assassin sent by his fourth brother threatens his life. It's labeled as an action comedy drama. And it gets 7.1 on IMDb, which is quite high.

That's good.

Yeah, it just kept coming up. I'm like, I gotta talk about Dirty Hoe.

That's what I was gonna question. I thought you're gonna brush past it again. I was like, we're not gonna talk about this. No, I need another dirty hose. I'm glad. I'm glad. You read my mind.

This movie stars Chi Hu Liu as Sante or Santa. I don't know. He has 120 acting credits going all the way back to 1973. Guess what? He was in Dirty Ho.

Oh, my God.

He's in a movie called Shaolin and Wu Tang Peacock King. He was Johnny Moe in Kill Bill, volumes one and two.

Oh, nice, nice.

He was in a thing called Ghost Ballroom. That's like, I gotta look this up. But that can't be the. I gotta look this one up instead. Because in 2004, he was Rome Chow in Shaolin vs Evil Dead.

Oh, now that sounds interesting.

The plot thickens as the heroes Pac and Hawk discover a horrible plan by the evil genius Dr. Magma as he makes the Evil Dead come to life and fight the Shaolin monks that have mastered the art of fighting.

Okay, that's like Dr. Magma, Dr. Mag.

But. But the first thing is, like, how do you get a doctor Magma? Where did he get his name? I don't know. That's why in 2007, he reprised this role as Rome Chow in Shaolin vs Evil Dead Ultimate Power. Less a sequel than a prequel in. It's more zombies and vampires in this highly anticipated sequel to Shaolin versus Evil Dead. So I'm assuming we get to find out why there's a Dr. Magma.

Yeah, we see him go to college where his doctorate is in.

Yeah, that's. That's Hill opening. Like the cold open in the second one. It's got to be little background there.

He's got, like, a doctor in general studies, probably.

He's a valedictorian. He's giving a speech I pledge to bring.

It has nothing to do with lava. It's crazy what it's with.

I would love a Speech where he's like planning like his evil plans. He's like, I've studied for eight years. I finally have learned how to reanimate. I'm gonna finally take my revenge on all those Shaolin monks who've mastered fighting.

Yeah, these goddamn monks have held us back for too long.

I think they're so much better.

Villain monologue at his graduation.

Everybody's like, what's going on? You seem like such a nice guy. It's kind of weird.

As we go into the future, let us remember that the Shaolin monks may be destroyed.

They will pay for their crimes.

They will pay for their crimes.

They think they're so much better than us. Up on that hill, just training, ignoring us.

There's like one person clapping at the end. Doesn't hope it's right or not.

You. You'll be my. My. Igor.

Yes, Dr. Macbut. This last person I'm going to talk about from this movie is Lo Lie. He stars as General Tian Ta. He has 239 credits going back to 1964. Such things as the tragic fantasy colon tiger of one Chai on parole. Sex and Zen. Life is cheap, but toilet paper is expensive.

Oh, I don't want to know.

But in 2001, in his final role he played right before his death, he played White Tong's uncle in the vampire combat.

Oh, now that sounds cool too.

Master Mao Lung is so obsessed with the supernatural that he keeps an eye on the Yin wife of his eldest disciple Su Yao 2, who succeeds in keeping the master concealed. A century later, everybody has a new life without memory of the past. But Mao Lungs. Wait, what? I don't know.

They do.

I just. There wasn't an official write up for this, so this was the user added. Mao Lung's loyal but evil followers swear to take revenge and save his master from the subdued world at any price.

Interesting. So. So I'm assuming they reincarnated.

They didn't.

They don't. It hasn't been 100 years later and they're the same person with a new life, right?

I don't know. They're vampires. I guess that's true.

Maybe they're vampire. You know, once you're a vampire, you probably start to forget stuff after 100 years. So it's possible.

Yep, Yep, yep, yep.

That sounds cool. That sounds cool. Vampires I like. Yeah, lighting.

That's the only reason I put up there. Because it's vampires. We talked about vampires last week, didn't say anything about what were those vampires? Floating vampires. Hopping, hopping vampires. That's what it was.

Yep. I hope they're hopping vampires.

Well, they can't be anything, but I think.

Yeah.

I mean, I would be disappointed with anything now every time I see Dracula, I want to see like, a Dracula movie with the hopping vampire instead.

Yes, I want a hopping vampire. I. I need like, a true blood like series on hbo, but featuring hopping vampires.

Yes, I would love that. Why not? It's about time.

Sexy hopping vampires.

Wow.

Just drop jumping around.

Yeah.

You can hop so high. Oh, my. Interesting.

Did a cow. And it will. We will be Louisiana. Hopping vampires.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that. Oh, you wanted to be a little bit of a troublemaker.

Yep. All right, who wants 36 Chamber of Shaolin fun facts?

Yes. Yes.

What I'm here for, man. Movie won the best Martial Arts awarded 24th Asian Film Festival and was the 1978 top 10 box office hit in Hong Kong.

Wow. Pretty good.

Sante is a real historical figure. He was a monk and a Shaolin martial arts disciple who lived in the early 18th century. That's cool. Yeah, I. So it could be or they just be coincidence that they have the same name. Who could say this movie was a big hit in India. The movie dubbed in in English ran 25 weeks of full house. So that's a lot of people going to see this. India's got a lot of people, though. At Srinivasa 35 millimeter at Narayanguda Hyder. So there you go.

Okay.

It was big in India. In India.

Nice. That's cool.

The one I didn't put on here because I was like, no, duh. This movie was the influence for the Wu Tang clans. Enter the 36 chambers.

Oh, interesting. Okay.

Despite the u. S. Title for the film the master killer, the idea of taking a life would be abhorrent to a real Shaolin or Buddhist monk. And that was kind of in our opening clip too.

It's true.

I want to use it for revenge. Don't say that to anybody.

You never speak those words out.

Keep that shut. Shut that down.

Like, look, I appreciate being honest, but I don't care what you do after

you leave the temple. But just.

Yeah, it's like, we'll teach you. Just don't give us too many details.

Don't let them know in the other room. They'll be mad.

They're not gonna be as cool about it as I am. Okay,

so only 10 of the 35 chambers are shown on screen.

That's a mistake.

He's completing now the director's cut.

Release the director's cut.

The highest chambers seen first. Right. And when they're talking about flavors and stuff, and he gets kicked out. So that made me think. I'm like, okay, so he's. There's 35 chambers. The 36th chamber he creates at the end. Right.

Spoilers.

So what were the. What are they? See? 10. What are the. What are all of the 35 chambers? This was definitely hard to find a list, but I think I have one. And it's from a core. I answer, so take it with a.

Oh, it'll be legit then. Yeah.

One Chamber of the Staff. They all had descriptions, but I'm just gonna skip.

Yeah. Stick hitting people's staff.

And so that's. And that should be the easiest one because the guy said that he tried to jump ahead and go to the most advanced one. So if number one is the staff, that's must be the easiest possible thing.

So keep an ear out for other ones that might feel easier. And if there's one you want a description for, let me know and I'll read it for you.

Okay. Okay.

1. Chamber of the Staff. 2. Chamber of the Sword. Got it. 3. Chamber of the Spear. Okay. 4. Chamber of the Fist.

Nice.

I like that. 5. Chamber of the Iron Palm.

Okay, sure.

6. Chamber of the Eagle Claw.

Yep, yep.

7. Chamber of the Monkey.

Got it.

Monkey style.

Yep. That's what's fast. It took me a second, but. Yeah, it's like a style.

Yeah. It's not like there's a room full of monkeys and you gotta beat them all up.

You gotta fight the monkeys to death. Yeah. That's horrifying. Yeah.

Well, it would get worse because we have eight. Chamber of the Tigers.

Next. I just defeated a monkey, and I go into a room with a big old tiger. Great.

And then you get a little reprieve because you got. Chamber of the crane is nine.

Oh, I could take a crane.

And while cranes are big and they're dinosaurs, I. I think you could. I could probably.

I think you could take it. Yeah. Like the. Just aim for, like, that little one neck. I think you could get them.

Yep. And then we have 10. Chamber of the Snake is next.

Oh, now I ain't going in there.

Yeah. And if. If you're a Kung Fu Panda fan, which I am, you would know that those are the. The things, right?

Oh, like the masters.

Yeah, yeah. And minus the lotus. Not the lotus. The Grasshopper. But he's not grasshopper. Was it the mantis?

Oh, yep.

Then we have 11. Chamber of the Drunken Fist.

Okay, I like that.

12. Chamber of the Butterfly Sword. Okay, then we go. 13. Chamber of the Whip. Okay.

I'm not sure that's like an official weapon, but sure.

14. Chamber of the fan.

Okay.

Teaches the use of a folding fan, emphasizing deception and agility.

Are those Robert De Niro and.

Yes.

Wesley Snipes.

Wesley Snipes movie. Yeah.

And watch that analyze over and over again. Discuss it.

Yeah, discuss.

God sucks.

Watch it.

That is a true test of willpower of will.

Yeah. 15. Chamber of the Chain Whip.

Okay, now that sounds cool.

That does sound cool.

Like scorpion style. You know, like from Mortal Kombat. Scorpions get the.

Oh, yeah, yeah. You shoot it out of your palm into somebody's throat. Get over here.

Shaolin monks, we don't really like killing, but we are going to train in a chain.

16. Chamber of the iron body. Okay. 17. Chamber of the soft Fist.

Ooh.

And you have. This is like a college course. You have to pass chamber of soft fist to get the 18. Chamber of the hard fist.

Okay, so let's. Let's tell me what soft fist is.

Teaches the principles of yielding and redirecting force, emphasizing relaxation and timing.

Okay. Like countering and stuff.

What was the other one that you said was like the iron fist was early. Oh, no, the other one's a palm. Yeah, iron palm. Okay.

That's just like a move, right? Just like one move.

Yeah. So we got soft fist, hard fist. Once you've got ace in both of those and you're ready for a chamber of the long fist.

Oh, okay. Okay.

Long range techniques and footwork. And then once you've got that, you're ready for chamber of the short fist.

Okay. Close range techniques.

Yeah, yeah.

Yes. Focuses on close combat techniques and quick strikes, emphasizing speed and precision.

I see.

Once you've done that, you've done all the animals, you've done all your fists, you've fisted till you can fist anymore.

I have hard fists, soft fists, you've done all fists.

And then you have the chamber of the mantis at 21.

Oh, that's next.

Yeah, that's next.

That must be next level animal. Yeah.

The Mantis must be one badass. 22. Chamber of the horse. Dance

stance or dance stance or dance.

I bet you there's a dance in it. It says develops leg strength and stability through deep stances. Crucial for in many techniques.

So you're just doing like, squats?

Yeah, I guess so. Horse squats.

I mean, horses do that all the time. That's why their legs are so strong.

Yeah, horses have very strong wings. Then we have 23 chamber of the meditation. Okay. 24. Chamber of the Breath Control.

Breath control and meditation maybe should come before the rest of these. I feel like, am I crazy? I think, why would you do that? Last or middle.

Wait till you hear the rest. Because the rest all feel like they should be precursors to the others.

Yeah.

Is there a Chamber of Secrets?

There is no Chamber of Secrets, but there's one that's close. We have. Then we have. After Chamber of Breath Control comes the Chamber of Ground Fighting. It's grappling and wrestling sort of stuff. Then we have the Chamber of Balance.

Okay. We saw him do that one, I think.

Right. 26 balance and coordination through various exercises and stances.

Maybe not.

Then we have 27 chamber of vision.

Oh, yeah, that one's cool.

28 chamber of reflexes. Sure. 29 chamber of strategy. Wow.

Okay.

30 chamber of speed. 31 chamber of endurance.

Okay. Yeah, yeah. These, like, training, like, just getting in shape. Ones should probably be earlier.

It's like, they got. They're like, we gotta have 35 chambers. And they got to Mantis and like, what do we do now?

Right? They're like, okay, hold on, hold on. We should.

Okay. Meditation. Sure, sure. Oh, Breath Control. But like this. Before, they had, like, control C and control V. They just once was written down that was the order. Rearrange them at all on a scroll.

They wrote it out. They couldn't go back.

Yeah, couldn't go back because then you have the 29 Chamber of Strategy. 30 Chamber of Speed. 31. Chamber of Endurance. 32. Chamber of the Adaptation. 33. Chamber of the Flow. Okay. 34. Chamber of the Unity.

What's that?

Teaches the importance of harmonizing mind and body for effective martial arts practice.

Should probably be earlier, but. Okay.

You would think. And this is the 35th chamber is what it says. Chamber of the Spirit. Focuses on cultivating a strong fighting spirit and mental fortitude. Interesting. But I also have on here this list the 36th Chamber, which I thought was, like, just what he did. He made the 36 invented, which is like, I'm going to teach you all how to fight to kill.

I also thought maybe it could just be that he invented, like, a new weapon also.

No.

Oh, yeah. They could add that as a chamber, too. The.

This triple staff, triple nunchuck thing.

The triple nunchuck thing was pretty cool. But, you know, 36 chamber is the Chamber of Mastery, which we think if they're only 35, that would be the 35th and the 36th would be what he made up.

But sounds to me like maybe the person who wrote the answers to this maybe was kind of winging it a little bit.

But, yeah, I. I think he had the. The power of hindsight.

He watched the movie and they came up with some like. Okay, I think it was this. This.

Oh, my God. I'm looking at it now. I did not realize this is on Quora. This list was assembled by a bot. What?

AI.

Yes. Well,

interesting.

This answer is assembled by a bottle. Come on.

Where did they get the answers? Give us the. The links. Where's the proof of this?

I feel like I just wasted everyone's time. I. I'm done. I. I went as deep as we possibly can.

That was deep. That was.

Yeah, but it was. It was a fake. Deep.

No.

36 levels deep, Derek.

No, it felt real to me.

It was in one hole. 36ft deep. It was 36 one foot holes.

Oh, great.

Now I gotta watch where I'm walking with.

Exactly. Not good.

Oh, I like that, though. Like, the whole chamber.

Much like the fan chamber. You have to watch the movie Holes with sh.

Yes, yes. You just have to, like. You have to watch the movie while you're, like, walking through a little, like a desert area with holes everywhere.

Just a bunch of holes. We're looking for treasure. You ain't finding it out here.

They don't got nothing up there in the Shaolin Chamber.

Just scorpions and rattlesnakes. All right, Bos, we did it. We got here to the time in which we should talk about the 36th Chamber of Shaolin.

At first I was like. At first you were like, we did it. I'm like, do we do it?

Do we get to the end?

We talk about.

No, we didn't really talk about it,

but we talked about it kind of.

I understand that this movie is super influential and it's like a predecessor and like the granddaddy of, like, kung fu movies on stuff like that. But it was painfully boring at times. Painfully.

It's a little slow, for sure.

Your book ended with two, like, kind

of bits of action and then awesome action at the beginning in that, like, ambush scene.

Yep.

And then you get the fight at the end, which was okay. It was good.

But then there's. I mean, the training sequence is interesting, but it goes on way too long. For sure.

It goes on very, very long.

Especially considering they don't go through all 35. Like, it. I was waiting for him to, like, speed it up and have. And show him just doing, like, more random, like, show him doing, like, you know, working with the pole and then working with the sword and then work, you know, the whole, you know, just kind of like popping through and showing more of those things. Maybe like, stopping for a bit. Show more in depth for one of them. Like the one where he's stand between the two giant things of incense. He has to just follow the light with his eyes for a bit and then maybe go back to like, oh, let's bounce through some of the easier things again. I guess you really don't have to hit all 36. But if you're calling yourself 36 chambers, it remind.

That reminds me, Keith, of my kids. They have when they were, like, in first, second grade, they'd be like, you want to hear me count to 100 really fast? I'm like, yeah, sure, that's fine. One, two, skip a few. 99. 100. That's what they would do. And they thought they were the most cleverest little sons of ever.

That's pretty funny.

Oh, boy. The first time. Yes.

And then they did again.

I wonder, 99 times. No, not so much. But that's what they didn't. They kind of did that in this movie.

Yep, they did.

One, two, skip a few. And then if they could have showed him flinging a little pinwheel saw blade with a stick one more time, I've been like, great.

Well, each one of those was probably its own chamber. Each pinwheel.

Yeah, there's a lot of that stuff. The best. To me, the best part of this movie is part of the training when he's got to defeat sword guy.

That was cool. Yeah, I like that.

And it's like, if you can beat me, then you can do whatever chamber you want. But do you beat me? You ain't.

Yep.

And I like that. That was cool.

Y. Yeah.

And I like that guy. He's like, really inform the whole movie. And he's finally like, you know what? No, I put my foot down. If you want to move him on again, he's got to actually do something.

Yeah.

Besides finish, like, each of the things. He's got to be able to prove that he can hang with us top level guys.

I wish there was more of that. I feel like this movie is not very character focused. I wish it was more. Because it's really is just more like. Yeah. Like, look at the choreography and, like, the interesting training sequences because there is, like, a potential for character like, stuff here, like, where he's like, you know, he could be trying to rush through the chambers because he wants to get back to the real world, quote, unquote, and, like, get revenge on these people or train these other people. But, you know, so he feels like

he has to rush there.

So he's like, really, like. But doesn't really feel that way, you know, like, he kind of. He's up there for like, six months. He gets done with it quick.

Multiple years. He's there. Yeah.

But he's up there a long time. And, like, I wish there was more of, like, a conflict in his head even of like, all this training has taught me to, like, not worry about revenge. But I still have this inkling, you know, there's stuff in there that they could have really explored and they don't really.

Or like the, you know, like the one sword guy who's, like, constantly giving him crap. Well, maybe bring that up earlier and then show him doing a couple of training sessions. Then they come, you know, and then bring that back around for, like, another one of his, like, one on ones with that guy, and he still can't beat him. So they show a couple more things.

He masters a couple more chambers because he can't win and he doesn't.

Yeah.

You know, and again, eventually, what actually makes it he ends up winning is because he develops his own weapon that nobody knows how to defend yet.

It could be the new chamber basturing this triple stick weapon.

That's kind of what I thought it was because they said there's like, a whole bunch of different, like, weapon ones.

And I'm like, 36 chambers. I'm making a militia.

We could actually have 37 now because

the translation of it goes wrong. Making a militia. He just wants to make sure that people can, like, defend themselves if they need to, not necessarily make a. An army.

He's recruiting people, but just make sure.

But it kind of feels like, you know, like that was like the whole thing. Like Bruce Lee's whole thing was, I'll be able to go out and I want to be able to train people who want to learn this stuff. You know, I'm not sitting there trying to train you to go fight and beat up people, but if not some. If bullies come along, then you can defend yourself. I think that's kind of what this

feels like to me, specifically training them to fight the government or whoever's taking over.

Yeah, he.

I mean, yeah, he's got a specific people in mind that he wants to, you know, to. To help be God, the man, the Manchurian.

He wants to fight that general guy, and he sets up the ambush for everybody. And, like, he He's a. He's taking a pretty active part of like this rebellion.

Yeah, well, because they, they kick him out. They're like, we'll call you back when. When we're ready. And part of me thinks they're like, they're not going to sign off on you going out training people. But hey, man, get out for a little while.

It's like, we'll call you back. We're going to let you do. It's like a. We're not. We're frowning upon it, but we're not. We're like looking away. You do what you want to do while you're down there. Because, like.

Because I also couldn't figure out, like, when he's got people like doing the training stuff there at the end, are they in Shaolin or He's like, set up his own thing.

They set up his own little dojo.

I thought. Yep, he. He's training all those new people the

rice and flour guy was at.

Yeah.

And so did the Shaolin even sign off on that? Who knows?

I don't know. Not officially saying. Not officially.

I mean, he's wearing the same robes as they were.

But, you know, I think they sent him down there to, you know, as quote, unquote punishment. But also like, that sword guy knows what he's going down there to do. And he's like, you just come back when you're. Wink, wink, and then that's. That's what happens.

I like the story. I like the story of this movie. I like the political aspect. I like the, the rebellion. I like that stuff. I think that's cool. I like, you know, the oppressor class and the uprising. And to me, I mean, that's a story that I dig. No matter the context, you do it right. I'm down for it. It took a long time to get through that, but I enjoyed it. I like going to become a monk. Like, okay, I'm going to do this. I get in the whole, the whole monk. The Shaolin monk area. I like the idea of coming back for revenge. Like, all these things are really cool story elements. And I have to. I have to keep my judgment through the lens of. This was a 1978 Quick Churn Hong Kong kung fu movie.

Right.

Once you put those. Okay, yeah, it's fine. It was just. Just an uneven pace for this movie. And. And there was. It was terribly boring. I. I kept caught myself nodding off and I had to go back and rewatch. Nod off and had to go back and rewatch and then just. Is what it is.

I. I felt that way a lot, too. Like, I like the political stuff as well. I just feel like. Yeah, there's not a lot of focus or I guess in the film to, like, really drive the characters forward. It just kind of like. It's really just showcasing these action sequences, I feel like.

And there were a ton of them. They were kind of spread out. There was only, like, really two.

The book, unless you count the training. I think the training counts.

Yeah.

Yeah. You're getting a bunch of, like, actual, like, oh, here's a specific technique type thing. But there weren't playing stuff. But not an actual, like, fight, fight, big fight battles, which is why I think you, like. Once he takes on, like, the. The sword guy, the s. Yeah.

I mean, it's interesting because it's.

Yeah. Because it's. It's continuing to show him developing, but then you're also getting the action of it.

Yeah.

It's nice to see him fighting somebody besides just himself, you know, because the rest of it's just him training himself to get better.

And you're right, Terry. He's just fighting himself. He's not really fighting, but he's not, like, fighting internal demons, like, which should

be the part of the movie. Like, revenge versus the Shaolin way is not, you know, that's not supposed to mix. So I feel like that should be, like, a huge part of this.

But. Yeah, he's just, like, accidentally stabbed himself with knives on the bottom of his arms or.

Yeah, whatever. Like, in the clip, you talk where he's.

That's some crazy weight training right there.

God. Yeah.

There's no way you can hold those buckets up your first try for longer than, like, 10, 15 seconds.

Yeah, just.

Those buckets got to weigh, like, 50 pounds.

Yeah, it's over for me. I just. Kill me.

Yeah. I'd get two. I got two holes, one in each side.

I just let them sit in there like, wow, this is actually more comfortable than.

Don't lift your arms. Because then you, like, let all the blood out.

Exactly. Just keep them as close to your body as possible.

Just like. I've given up.

Yeah. That one seemed like the hardest one to me.

Yeah, that one seemed very difficult to me. I thought. I thought the running across the log in the water was the easiest, but I've never done it, so I'm like, what do I know?

I mean, well, how hard? Come on. It looks so simple. I could do that right now.

Give me a log.

I'll do it.

If you throw a log, it's the water, I'm running across it.

I'm so well mentally prepared, I could just do that. Yeah. As soon as the situation shows up, I'm ready.

If you put a log or a crocodile or have a swinging vine across the water, I'm getting across.

Oh, God.

Especially turtles that, like, come up and then go back down and they come back up. Yeah, I'd hop across them, no problem.

Oh, yeah, I would. Do I just leap right on that shell?

Yeah. Like one of the tricks when the alligators. If you stand on their eyes.

Yeah. Well, you need to blind them so they can't use you.

Yeah. Well, if you stand in their mouths, they're going to open up their mouth and bite. You stay on their eyes, you just jump from eye to eye. We wait for the next crocodile to close his mouth. You jump on his mouth and you stand on his eyes, and eventually you get over there.

They're always just sitting there with their mouths open. That's what's annoying. It's like, God, just close it so I can get to those eyes.

But if you watch long enough, they'll eventually close. It's. It's very. It's a pattern. They're like, open and then close, then open and then close.

Yep. And then just aim. Each toe goes into one eye as you leap across.

That's how you get across the little pond.

Yeah.

Which. Which of the chambers that we're developing here at the Fumble Dome is Frogger.

Well, that's pitfall. That's a pitfall chamber.

Yeah. Frogger is a different chamber where you have to cross a car.

Oh, yeah. You know what? I just. But I was think. Because they have crocodiles in that one too.

Yeah.

Jump across.

But you gotta dodge a bunch of cars to get the crocodiles. And Frogger.

Yeah. You actually gotta go to the highway. That chamber is just this really big highway that you have to go across.

I've also. The life is a highway, too.

It's true. You could spend your whole time at school on that one chamber. Because life is a highway.

Life is a highway all night long.

Some people ride it all night long.

You can. Exactly. That's what makes it the most compelling. Most Shaolin monks get stuck in that chamber.

But the thing is, is you have to watch out because there's sometimes there's highwaymen waiting there. And you'll never know what type of highwayman it is, you know, but you

can always hope that the California Highway Patrol is out there to help you.

Oh, God. Well, they're out there too. Locally.

Yeah.

And they'll stop trying. They see you trying to cross. They're so nice. They'll help you out. Or they might arrest you because you're trying to cross the street.

That's true. That's very true. You should be walking on a highway anyway.

It's kind of illegal, this chamber, but

it's huge. The chamber is enormous.

It is loud, too. I hate sleeping above that chamber.

Yes, that. When you're first starting there, the new recruits have to sleep above the Life is a Highway chamber.

That's what we're calling it.

Yeah.

Which lies is like, you don't have to be part of the Shaolin community to get to this chamber. You can just. There's always one around.

Yeah. There's a lot of people that pass through the. The Shaolin chambers. They don't even realize it.

Yeah. I think I.

Because they're going by so fast, they don't take the time to stop and look.

Just like, across the. On the side of the road, there's a Shaolin monk standing there and a frog next to him picking up trash.

Makes sense.

But I. I do. I like the look of this movie a lot. I think the. I like how the colors kind of pop. I think that's just kind of a visual style for a lot of these films. Like, the costumes are really cool. They're always really colorful. I really like that about these. These movies just, you know, they embrace the. The colorfulness, which is nice, I will

say, because I've watched both versions of the movie here. Most of both versions. The English dub is tough

dubs, especially from this era. I'm always like, this probably not gonna be good.

And it's. I never realized, and I just assumed that that's. They did. But once I watch they redo the entire audio track, including sound effects and music, it's very difficult to watch. The sound in the English dub is abrasive and jarring.

Shocking sometimes how different it is, how, like, loud and badly recorded some of the stuff. It's like, sometimes even the voices are like, did you just record this, like, on the street with, like,

one take and that's it? There's like, read these lines. All right, great.

Next. It's like, you know, you were talking about how, like, the Shaw Brothers productions are very rushed and just trying to, you know, little money. Just imagine how much littler of a production cost it probably was to dub the.

The film in English on the pennies on the dollar.

Yes. You're not even looking for actors. You're just Looking for, you know, just some guy.

Can you read? Barely. Perfect. Come on in.

Just say what you think is happening here. Yeah.

How many voices you got?

Oh, yeah, we'll get you to do a few characters probably.

Yeah.

You only need one guy to voice the whole movie.

Yeah. And sometimes you get the. Because of the time you get white people doing Asian accents and you're just like, oh, stop, stop.

That's true too. That's true too.

This English dub was tough. It was. It's a much better watch in the original Cantonese with the English subtitles.

Yeah, I always do subtitles. But live action is hard for me to watch the. Because the lips never line up quite right.

Yeah, there's that. And then I also think that subs are hard to do too because it gets stuck watching the words and you don't see the screen. It's a. It's a tough trade off. You get a. Find the balance. So either. I think we've talked about before, either learn Chinese before you watch the movie.

Or read.

Yeah, or learn to read. You know, one of the two.

Read with one eye. Like, put your. Tilt your head sideways so you're reading with one eye on the sub.0001 eyes watching the screen. The actual stuff on chamber five, the chameleon technique. I like the fight scenes in this. See, like, the choreography is really good. Like, very well. Like, a lot of variety in it. You know, a lot of like, interesting moves. It's cool.

I was expecting bigger fights. Yeah.

It's not a lot of epic proportions.

It's more grounded with people just doing all sorts of crazy stuff. It was really more practical.

Yeah.

Like you meant. You mean like big, like groups of people. Also, like, like, like all the Shaolin monks come down to like, battle or something.

I don't mean like Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon with her flying. But I meant like, oh, I run up a wall and I kick three people in the head.

Flipping around and stuff.

Yeah. Yeah. I kind of expected more of that, but there wasn't.

We did see one of the Shaolin monks use like his fists to shoot air at the guy and knock him over.

Yeah, that was cool.

Surprised that didn't come back later.

No, it didn't. And that was. That was when he, like, disrespected him. He's like, I'm gonna go right to the 35th chamber. It's like, I'm gonna flick my finger at you and knock you down.

That's so funny that they're like, yeah, go ahead, go. You start wherever you why would they even give anybody the option? Just start wherever you want.

Well, maybe like, just to teach them a lesson.

No, you can't just start at the end.

Yeah. You gotta start at 1. You wanna get to 35, go to 1 and then move, work your way up.

I don't even think that would be my initial thought process anyways. Like, why would I want to start at the hardest one? I want to.

Yeah. Why would. To the top. Yeah.

I'm gonna get destroyed up there.

No kidding.

Some guy's gonna flick his finger, I'm gonna go flying.

I've never done kung fu, but I'm gonna go to the hardest one possible.

Yeah. I don't even know what the chamber is. It could be, like, the fight to the death chamber, you know?

Like, it could be the E walk booby trap chamber where you hit with logs on ropes.

You just walk in, you're like, oh, it seems awfully quiet in here. You start going, what are these two trees?

Two logs swing down and crush you in between. Lose the. You lose chamber.

Nobody sees that coming. Nobody does.

Why would you? Especially since Return of the Jedi didn't come up for another six years.

Exactly. Yeah. There's those two Ewoks working on the. In the chamber of the Shaolin. The Shaolin Ewoks? Yeah.

Hey, I would pay to see that.

That's a great Shaolin versus the Ewok.

Oh, they're fighting each other.

More of like, a complimentary thing. Like the Ewoks become Shaolin monks.

Yes. That would be cool, too. I would love, like. Like, this movie. They treat everything the same, but in the background, there's always just, like, an Ewok doing something. He's in there with him. Training. Never addresses it.

Yeah. A lot of them walk around with spears, so like, you could see them fighting guys with, like, you know, versus the pole and stuff like that.

Yeah.

I mean, it makes sense. It fits right in.

They have to. They wouldn't be able to do the incense chamber because it's too high up. They'd have to, like, make a whole new contraption for the Ewok. But they'd probably do it for him.

I would do. I would. I would. I would watch Ewoks be Shaolin mux. At least for, like, five minutes. I don't know if I can watch a whole movie, but I watched a little bit.

Or just, you know, they're, like, doing their little. Yeah, I don't think I could handle that for two hours. Watching Ewok train for two hours. Yeah.

Yeah.

No, I'm not. A short film, I think, would be perfect.

Yeah. And by short, I mean, like, five minutes.

Yeah, it's tops.

Yeah.

There's a scene where the. One of the Ewoks is eating one of the, I don't know, evil political people at the end.

Did Ewoks eat people?

I don't think so.

I don't think so either.

No, they did.

Come on.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Because they were gonna cook up Han,

and I think they were just gonna cook them up. To cook them up? Like a what? Like a implement of torture.

I think they're going to eat them.

I thought it was, like, punishment. I didn't think they were going to eat Luke and Han and Leia.

Not Leia.

Not Lea. Yeah, they. They dressed her up because she's pretty.

According to the AI overview, Ewoks are depicted as carnivores who eat sentient beings, including humans and stormtroopers.

Oh, God. AI. This is the same AI that give me 36 chambers, though. So take it with a grain of salt. I have. See? But Ewoks have flat teeth, like herbivores.

Wikipedia says that they consider humanoid flesh a delicacy.

What?

Everybody does, right?

Ewoks consider humanoid flesh a delicacy.

That's what it says.

So not necessarily human, but humanoid. So anything that walks on two legs and has arms and a face, kind

of like them, but less hairy, maybe.

Yes. That means they probably eat themselves, or they're cannibals.

They probably. Honestly, they might. Why not?

Yeah. You're an Ewok already. Might as well just eat the other Ewoks.

If I'm already an Ewok, I might as well try it.

I don't know.

Times are tough under the Galactic Rome.

Give me some of that Ewok meat.

But they wouldn't be that bad.

It's like chicken.

I. I bet you they beat. It'd be more like venison.

Oh, yeah.

Kind of gamey.

I don't think it would be tender.

No, it'd be, like, real lean and stringy.

I think it'd be kind of bony, too. I don't think it would be very like. It'd be kind of. It might have a little bit of fat on the ends, but I love the idea of.

Okay, so Ewoks are humanoid, but they don't have, like, a humanoid skeleton. They do, but I'm picturing, like. Like fish bones coming off of the normal bones. So it's real bony meat.

Yes. There's little bone shards, like, sprouting throughout Their arms.

Yeah. Like their skeleton is like a collection of fir trees.

Oh, my God.

So like, I'm. I'm very conflicted here with the way this conversation is going.

So just, just picture an Ewok femur.

Okay.

The main femur is like the trunk of a fir tree, but there's lots of other bones that come off of it, which be the branches and the pine needles of a fir tree.

Okay. And that's why they like trees so much.

Exactly. They're from the forest moon of Endor.

Only natural evolution would lead them down this path.

They're not from Endor. They're from the forest moon of Endor.

That's a good point. Everybody forgets that.

Everybody does forget that. And that's why they have the tree

like bones to remind you.

Yes.

Well, I wonder what indoors, like if there's the force moon of indoor. What is indoor?

You know, we never do find that out ever, do we?

I don't. Not that I know of. I'm sure somebody has explored Endor in the.

And are there. Are there any other moves?

There's like an ocean moon of indoor. Is there a fire moon of indoor?

Like, it could be because they had the avatar. Yeah. Everyone's its own biome.

There's a lot of potential in this universe, isn't there? Well, you could really.

The Star wars universe is unlimited.

Wow.

Unless you put a woman in it or.

Oh, God.

A person of color.

Oh, God.

Then that's when Star wars becomes very narrow.

Then it's ruined forever the fandom.

Yeah. God, you've ruined my childhood. I hate Star wars fandom. But I also love Star wars fandom because there's people that are reasonable too.

That's true. That's best. Both worlds. Yeah, there's best and the worst of both worlds, I guess.

Yes. You know, the best of the worst of a singular world. All are Star wars fans of some variety.

Yep. That's life. So I never heard a true statement.

But don't forget that Ewoks have lots of boats.

Yeah.

And that like it's okay for them to eat people, but we shouldn't eat them because it's nasty.

Yeah, you'll choke on a bone for sure.

It's just your self defense. You know, if you fall like a nasty poisonous slug, you know, you eat that, you're gonna die. It's like the Ewoks version of that. You eat them, you're gonna choke.

You're gonna choke on a bone. Yeah, that's. They evolved that way because they consider humanoid Flesh a delicacy.

Yeah, yeah. It's nice for them because.

Yeah. You can't eat an Ewok. Ewoks can't eat walk.

What is the. Is it the. The blowfish that you have to, like.

Yeah. Uni cut it.

You have to cut it a certain way.

I don't.

Yeah, and same thing with human flesh for them.

Yeah. Well, Ewok flesh, you have to, like.

Yeah.

Process to. To filet Ewok.

Only a master chef can prepare.

Only a master chef.

Gordon Ramsay.

This week on Iron Chef. We're using ewok meat.

Yeah.

You're unchopped. Like, open up your baskets and you'll find ewok. Damn it.

What's that one where they all have to run around the grocery store and buy stuff really fast?

Guys, grocery.

There's like. They're running past the, like, the meat section.

There's a blue light special on Ewoks to have Ewok in your meal. And then you always get the, like. The little testimonial was like, I don't ever cook Ewok. I don't even know how to break down an Ewok.

It's like, I've only had Ewok one time in my life, and I don't know.

Yes.

It was the best meal I ever had.

I just don't know how to cook it. I don't ever cook Ewok.

This is gonna be awkward. My best friend was an ewok

that was childhood friends with Widget or Wicked.

Wicked.

Wicked. That's his name.

I was actually raised by Ewoks for a few years.

Was something named Widget.

At any point, I'm sure there's got to be a widget in Star Wars.

Yeah. Well, I was also thinking, what was the. The gremlin's name? Gizmo. Damn it.

Close.

It's like a widget. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. Well, oh, well.

What do gremlins taste like, though? I don't know.

Rubber. Like, which gremlin, though, do you take? The mogulai version.

The cute version?

The cute version, you know, which is like an Ewok.

It tastes the best. I think probably it's like.

Feels very much like veal.

You look at the cute one, you look at that nasty looking, evil one. But the Mohawk, I'm not eating that thing. I don't care.

You want to eat stripe.

It looks disgusting. I think the. The mogwai is cute, but I'm like,

yeah, I would rather like an Ewok.

Yeah. Rather eat him than Stripe. I think Stripes have been rolling around in the sewers or. You know, he's nasty. I. I'm not getting in on that,

but Stripe was a moguli.

Yeah, something. Something. But something happens during that transformation.

Yeah, they come out of, like, a cocoon, don't they?

Yeah, it just really ruins the.

The Nice.

Yeah, they're no longer tender, that's for sure.

No, no, real rubbery.

Real.

Gave me real chewy.

Now.

I would eat lots of plants in you.

Plant Gremlin. I would eat what Plant Gremlin. Isn't there, like, a gremlin?

Yeah, there's like, a salad gremlin.

I think I need him. I need him.

Gremlins 2 is a buffet. Look. Classic.

I'm looking at a picture of Plant.

I don't see Gremlins, too.

What? Gremlins too. I. I saw that in the theater multiple times. Like, I think my dad took me to that. My dad took me to the Gremlins one, and I had a real problem with that when I was a kid.

Did too. I had. I was staying at my neighbor's house, and I had to go home in

the middle of night.

Well, my dad took me to the theater, and we had to leave because I could not handle it. It was. I was. I stood. I remember standing. Oh, God. This made me real vulnerable. I remember standing out in the hallway at the movie theater crying while my dad was still in there watching the movie. And then he finally came out, and he's like, okay, let's go.

Formative memory.

Yep. It is something that haunts me to this day. All right, we got through the 36th Chamber of Shaolin.

Yes.

What did we think?

Could have been shorter. Would have probably been better. Like, just some way to speed up that middle part with the training. And it would have, you know,

you

know, peaked it up a little bit for me, I think. But there's some good stuff in it. I think I liked it more than. I liked it more than last week's movie.

Sure.

But it just. Yeah, it's. It's too far in between on, like, the cool stuff, I mean. And plus, the bot just can't tell us how. Like, the actual 36 chambers, so.

Don't know what the 36 chambers are.

Yeah.

Isn't it kind of like that rule of comedy you told me, Derek, or. You don't name too many things that you can't.

Yes. Don't. Don't give yourself too big of a task.

I feel like this movie might have

done just be like, there's five chambers.

Awesome. 10 right here. Yeah, yeah, right.

35. That's tough. That's.

That's tough. It sounds cool.

36 is a very cool number to throw out there, though.

I do like that number a lot. I like this movie. It wasn't as good as I remembered it being. This used to be one of my favorite martial arts movies of all time. I would say it's good, but I don't know if I would call it my favorite anymore. I'd need to watch more martial arts movies probably. But it is still good, I think. I think it's slow. I wish there was more of a character hook because honestly, like, it's. It doesn't delve deep into the characters. This is just kind of a revenge thing. And I feel like there's a lot of potential to explore. Kind of like the philosophy of the Shaolin monks versus his true goal of revenge and all this stuff. They don't really go into it at all. Even the monks at the end were kind of like, yeah, we know what you're gonna do. Just go ahead, wink. You'll be fine. It. But the fights are cool. The look of it's cool. The vibe. I like the vibe of these kind of movies. Like, just like. I feel like they're. They have a certain like, feel, a look, a visual style. I enjoy.

I like the opening credits.

Yes.

Yeah.

Him just doing like his. His fighting forms. That was really cool. Yeah, I. There's a lot of stuff to like about it, but I do agree that it's kind of boring. It just. This is. It takes too long with the training. They should have intercut with some more like personal stuff, like character stuff.

Yeah. I got two points of view on this movie as like a modern movie. Like seeing it for the first time now in 2026 and I'm 50, so I have, you know, like 40 years of movie memories in my head. It's. It's rough in that regards. I think it's. The pacing's iffy, it's terribly boring at spots. It takes too long to get to the trading, and then the training takes too long. And then it ends with like. I kept checking to see how much time was left. Like there's like six minutes left. I'm like, is he left yet? What are we doing?

Yes. Yeah.

Yeah. And then it just ends. You're just like, okay, great.

Yeah.

But if I go in the way back machine when I'm analyzing it or appreciating it, I realized when it came out, remembers what came after. It and what came before it. I. You could see how it's like a foundational piece of martial arts films and like Chinese, you know, like storytelling. Like all. That's all that stuff. You can see it. You can see where the inspiration. Where future inspiration comes from. I really appreciate the concepts of the story that we talked about, like the. The revolution piece and the oppression, you know, the Sha Monk. Like, I like all that stuff and I'm sure if I would have saw it in 78, it would have blown my mind. But watching in 26 for the first time, it's good. It's fine, right? It's like three and a half out of five. Like most of that is like through a nostalgia or like an appreciation of the time it came out in more than anything else. Well, we know what we thought. What did the Internet have to say? Because they're never wrong.

They're always right. We could trust anything we read on the Internet.

Yeah. And we watched.

We.

I'm sorry, we go through two polarizing opposites that can't be wrong. And here's. Here's a 10 and a 1. All right. On May 7th of 2008. 8. So not too recent. Jacob Hyphen 100 had this to say, and Jacob is spelled with a K. Cool. Yes, very cool. Best ever Classic Kung Fu movie. I bought this movie after it was rated best classic kung fu movie on www.top10list.com and I must agree. Although I have not seen 8 Diagram, Pole Fighter and Clan of White Lotus yet, which also pass as class as cult classics, I definitely find it to be the best of all classic kung fu movies I have seen. In my opinion, it beats the rest, partly through the plot and partly due to the amazing action scenes. The quality of the DVD I have is relatively poor though. But that might be because it was copied from VHS to DVD in some unsolicited way. Although I purchased it in a hypermarket in Malaysia.

I guarantee that's why it doesn't like

Any comments from other users regarding this would be appreciated as I was considering purchasing a copy from an American online shop. The movie is definitely worth watching a few times. 2 found that helpful. 2 not so much. 10 out of 10.

Interesting. He bought out of a shop in Malaysia. Okay.

Yep.

I. Yeah, probably not. The probably was just a cheap, you know, transfer.

I would guess that's my guess. But not to be outdone, on December 17th of 2024, Aura hyphen elsewhere had this to say. I wanted to love thee. How dare thee let me down oh,

Shakespeare, is that you?

It's. It's old Willie. Shakespeare really shakes.

29.

I probably would have loved this movie had I seen it when I was a child. But watching it as an adult, all I find is hackneyed and long winded kung fu flick. The choreography of the fight scenes is nothing to write home about either, though they are scant and sporadic in this rather predictable and trite tale. Or use the word trite.

Oh.

Bear in mind that Enter the dragon was released five years prior to the 36th Chamber of Shaolin. Compare the two of them and you will see how dated and cliched this movie must have seemed even upon its release. I do like the setting of these Hong Kong movies though. That's really all that saves it from. From a lower rating for me.

Huh? Okay.

Three found it helpful. Three, not so much. Three out of ten.

Oh, okay. I was like, if he gave it a 1 out of 10 and said that's what it saves it from, a lower rating. I'm like, that's not possible, dude.

Yep, three out of ten is the lowest it gets. Here for the 36 Chambers of Sheldon.

Wow.

Wow indeed.

That's impressive. Honestly, it's not bad.

100 views and. And no one's see, like, with these movies like this. I feel like some of the reviews are like, I have to love this because others loved it.

Yeah, it's like a classic.

You know, it's a clip.

Like, I get that your review is almost. Your review is almost defending all those other reviews.

I spent a lot of time justifying why you think it's a 10 out of 10 as opposed to like explaining why it's down 10. You know, you're fighting for it. Like, yeah, I get that it's boring,

but you're ready for an argument. You're like preparing all the, like, cons.

Yeah, yeah, it's definitely not a perfect movie. But if you want to say it's a 10 out of 10 movie, you know, more power to you. I don't care.

Not for me, but maybe someone else. That's for sure.

Like, I like it. Yeah. Is it perfect?

Hell no.

All right, well, we did it. We got through the 36th Chamber of Shaolin. A movie that influenced that was the foundation of the Wu Tang Clan, which was also like the foundation of like mid-90s rep, which is like my wheelhouse of growing up and stuff like that.

Rock and Roll hall of Fame.

Rock and Roll hall of Fame. Wu Tang Clan.

Really?

Wu Tang Clan coming at you. Watch your neck, kid.

I actually I kept trying to figure out. I kept listening for how many, like, little samples and snidbits, you know, snippets.

There weren't any.

I didn't know there's one, but I think it's from Method Man's album. Not. Not from the original 36 chambers thing.

Well, maybe. So we've got through two weeks of Shaw Bros. Run Run. Shaw was the producer on this last one.

Oh, hello.

Run Run. So that means the next week is.

Keith.

Yeah, yeah.

Yes.

Such enthusiasm there, Keith.

What do you got for us?

All right. And you guys can, you know, Terry, you can let me know if this is not. Not doable.

Well, shouldn't that be your job?

No, no.

I mean, it's because.

Well.

All right, I'm just gonna tell you right now. This movie that I'm picking is a. It's a co production between the Shaw Brothers Studios and Hammer Film Productions.

Hammer Film. Like Hammer. Don't, please. Hammer. Don't hurt them.

Picking what I think you're picking? We'll see.

This is. It's a movie that is known as. The American version is known as Seven Brothers Meet Dracula. It's also known as the legend of the Seven Golden Vampires. From 1974. It's a British Hong Kong co production from Hammer Film Productions and the Shaw Brothers blending gothic horror with martial arts. Peter Cushing is Van Helsing and he travels to China to fight a vampire cult led by Dracula, teaming up with a family of kung fu masters to battle the undead.

What's it called?

The Seven Golden Vampires. What? You'll find it as.

That sounds awesome. I think it counts. Sure. Seven Golden Vampires.

I'm all about vampires. And I'm all about kung fu.

I'm.

I'm cool with that. And it's a shot. Bros. Co pro.

Yeah, that counts to me. That counts to me. All right.

Well, we did it. We got through. DTF Y2M 3W2SB.

SB.

What's SB stand for?

Oh, Shaw Bros. We did it.

We got through it. 36th Chamber of Shaolin. And now we're on to. I already forgot the title.

Seven Golden Armies. A Legend of the Seven Golden Vampires.

Yeah.

And that'll be. Yeah, I'm excited, too. I would have never heard of this movie if it wasn't for this month.

Nope, me neither.

And we're gonna watch that next week. But I guess that leaves us with nothing to do other than end this the way we end everything.

Yes.

Razor the Hellraiser. Raising hell with the flavor Tear around the jam like troops in Pakistan swinging through your town like your neighborhood spider man so on Tick tock and keep ticking when I get you flipping off the I'm kicking the Lone Ranger Cold wet danger deep in the dark with the art, the rip, the chalk support the vandal too hot to handle your battle, you're saying goodbye like to be careful what next? Inspector Decks on the set the Rebel I make more noise than have you. Thanks for listening to Fumbling Through Film. New episodes drop every Thursday. Got feedback or questions? Email us at fumbling through film gmail.com. you can see our films to Fumble before you tumble into the grave and other musings on letterboxd at Fumble Through Film. The through is T HRU. You can also follow Keith on Instagram at kg33lives and on Letterboxd3030. Terry is on Letterboxd @terry2099. Derek is on Letterboxd Derek the number nine and then the word nine. All original music is done by the Dr. Dre of Kansas, Terry. So hit him up for them bangers. Our new podcast logo is done by the delightful and talented Sanjay Vicky Nayak. You can find her on Instagram at Ike Stein. That's Einstein with a K in there. We'll see you next week as we keep on Fumbling. This is going to be a dick of an edit.

We just keep it all and except for the bird eating alive part that I made up.

Except for the part that would embarrass Terry.

Yeah, all right. Keep the gremlin story just for you.

I'll keep me crying outside of a movie theater as a nine year old in there. That's fine.