Bond: Casino Royale (2006)

The Fumblers find themselves in a high stakes poker tournament and if we loose our business partners will hunt us down. To help us mellow out during a break we watch Casino Royale. One of us is stuck sitting on a torture chair, and which one of us it is might surprise you.

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Transcript
Speaker A:

Gather together from the cosmic breaches of the universe. Here in this great screening room with comfortable recliners are the most powerful forces of good ever assembled. Keith.

Speaker B:

It's a whole different version of the splash zone.

Speaker A:

Terry.

Speaker C:

I think he's bluffing, guys. He's bluffing. I think he keeps tapping his head. I think he's bluffing, Derek.

Speaker A:

But his eyes are intensely blue. He's like a Fremen, they're so blue. And the power twins, Zap and Jordan with their magical lemur snort. Dedicated, fumbling their way through movies one forgotten gem at a time. This week we watch the 2006 Daniel Craig Bond reboot, Casino Royale. This is fumbling through film.

Speaker D:

You've got a bloody cheek.

Speaker A:

Sorry. I'll shoot the camera first next time.

Speaker D:

Or yourself. You stormed into an embassy. You violated the only absolutely inviolate rule of international relationships.

Speaker A:

And why?

Speaker D:

So you could kill a nobody. We wanted to question him, not to kill him. For God's sake. You're supposed to display some kind of judgment.

Speaker C:

I did.

Speaker B:

I thought the one less bomb maker in the world would be a good thing.

Speaker D:

Exactly. One bomb maker. We're trying to find out how an entire network of terrorist groups is financed and you give us one bomb maker. Hardly the big picture, wouldn't you say? The man isn't even a true believer. He's a gun for hire. And thanks to your over developed trigger finger, we have no idea who hired him or why. And how the hell did you find out where I lived?

Speaker C:

Same way I found out your name.

Speaker B:

I thought M was a randomly assigned letter. I had no idea it stood for.

Speaker D:

Utter one more syllable and I'll have you killed.

Speaker A:

Hello and welcome to another one of a kind, genre defining, brand new episode of Fumbling Through Film. The only show that dares to bring together three dudes to talk about movies. These aren't just any movies though.

Speaker C:

Nope.

Speaker B:

I mean, this month they're definitely not.

Speaker C:

These

Speaker A:

aren't any movie because they're the ones we've missed, overlooked or feel are simply worth revisiting. Yep. No, they are. Any movie that's any movie. Well, this was this month's a more hyper focused any movie. But it's a movie, really. It is.

Speaker C:

I'm sure that.

Speaker B:

I'm sure those details,

Speaker A:

a little bit later they'll be. They'll emerge in their date and time.

Speaker C:

They'll merge that. Eventually.

Speaker B:

We let the listener think it through while we do the wrestling shows. And then Derek, he really breaks it down later.

Speaker C:

The truth will come out eventually.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Yeah, it's out. The truth is out there. Anyway, my name is Derek, and I'm a Fumbler. Joining me here in the Fumble Dome, our reclaimed planetarium that we got at police auction and turned it into a screening room, is the only prime minister of fumbling and film.

Speaker C:

Keith.

Speaker B:

Hey, what's up, kg Fumbler extraordinaire? I'm all in.

Speaker A:

All in.

Speaker C:

Wow.

Speaker A:

Keith has pushed his chips splash in the pot.

Speaker B:

Yeah, definitely. Definitely.

Speaker A:

There's a lot of pot splashing in

Speaker C:

this movie, but too much pot splashing.

Speaker A:

I liked it. I liked it. That other messy pot splasher. I'm sure when he rolls dice, they fall off the table, too. Sloppy Dice.

Speaker C:

Hey, hold on.

Speaker A:

Sloppy dice. Pot splasher. Dr. Dre of Kansas.

Speaker C:

Terry, don't call me Sloppy Dice. That's not okay.

Speaker B:

Oh, that's a. That's a nickname for you there.

Speaker C:

He always rolls those dice off the table. That's. That's all hearsay. That's not true.

Speaker B:

I mean, we're talking about Bond, but I think that's more like a. That's a Dick Tracy villain.

Speaker C:

These two have never seen me roll dice.

Speaker A:

And Sloppy Dice. Rabbit of ink, Prune face. That's all you guys. Prune face. You're Sloppy Dice.

Speaker C:

Oh, okay.

Speaker A:

And I'm Dick Tracy.

Speaker C:

Oh, of course. Yeah. You're the.

Speaker A:

I just wear a lot of yellow, that's all.

Speaker B:

Oh, he's proof face.

Speaker C:

I'm. I think I'd rather be Sloppy Dice than PR Face.

Speaker A:

I agree.

Speaker B:

So will I.

Speaker C:

I don't even want to know why, Keith.

Speaker B:

Why.

Speaker C:

Why someone would be called prude Face, but somebody's got that little, like, crazy villain.

Speaker A:

I could think of his pretty face.

Speaker C:

Oh, he's a real villain.

Speaker A:

Yeah. From Dick Tracy.

Speaker C:

Yeah. About to lick this guy up.

Speaker A:

He's got a face like a prune.

Speaker C:

Is it like he, like, ate a prune or like. He looks like a prune?

Speaker A:

He looks like a prune, and old people love him.

Speaker C:

Ew.

Speaker A:

Because of his fiber.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

This guy looks nice. Yeah. I would not. I would not partake in any of this. Yuck.

Speaker A:

Okay, well, you know what most people don't want to partake in, but they should?

Speaker C:

Our podcast. Yeah.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So we should tell them what it is that we do here.

Speaker B:

What exactly is that, Keith?

Speaker A:

Every week, we watch movies, but not just any movie.

Speaker C:

Yes.

Speaker A:

Every month, one of us chooses a theme, a genre, guiding light, some sort of license to do things like either kill or watch movies. And we each pick a movie that adheres to that. And on the fourth week we watch a wild card that's given to us by our non official, unofficial fourth member of the podcast, our random wheel, Derek's best friend. Derek's best friend. And we'll probably visit that wheel later on today. This month in is month two in DTF down to fumble Y2. Year two is a Keith month. So, Keith, tell the people what it is you gave us this month.

Speaker B:

I said, you know what? Let's. I don't really want to do any movie. Let's break it down about 25 movies. We're going to do just James Bond this month.

Speaker A:

James Bond, Yeah. Keith kicked us off our James Bond month with On Her Majesty's Secret Service with George Lazenby, the old Lazenby.

Speaker C:

And then Terry followed that up with Tomorrow Never Dies.

Speaker A:

Not. Yeah, the World is Not Enough or whatever it was.

Speaker C:

Nope, not that one. That's for sure.

Speaker A:

Definitely not dead. Tomorrow Never Dies.

Speaker B:

Tomorrow's World never Dies Enough.

Speaker A:

Yes. Not that one. And then I said, well, hot damn, that leaves all the new Daniel Craigs. And I'm going to pick that. I'm going to pick Casino Royale. Yeah, that's what I did.

Speaker C:

The newest generation of Bond.

Speaker A:

The newest. The first of the newest generation of Bond, Casino Royale. This is the reboot of Bond.

Speaker C:

I think it is. Yeah, I think it is.

Speaker A:

I think that's fair to say.

Speaker C:

The dark, gritty reboot.

Speaker B:

You know, I. Because I've been watching. I watched Dr. No the other day and I'm watching from work, From Russia With Love right now.

Speaker A:

Yep.

Speaker C:

Not while we're recording right now. Hold on.

Speaker B:

No. And none.

Speaker A:

I.

Speaker B:

None of. And I don't know, maybe the Roger Moore one maybe does, but I don't know if any of them do, like, almost like Bond origin type thing. So it's almost like not. I don't know if reboot even is the right word for it because they give you, like a lot of Bond before. Like, I mean, it starts out with him not even being below 7 yet, but then like all the rest of it is like all the other things that he's like, really well known for, like a signature type stuff is kind of developed during this movie. So I. It don't. It doesn't seem so much like reboot as it is. Like, I don't know, like, what does they used to do? Like, was that Wolverine Origins movie and stuff like that?

Speaker C:

You think this is a prequel to the.

Speaker B:

Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, because the Casino Royale is, I think, the first. The first book that they did.

Speaker C:

Oh, okay.

Speaker B:

And they go. I don't. I don't know if the second one is offhand, but that. That is the first one. So. Yeah, it almost seems like. Yeah, they're doing a. A bit of a prequel type thing, but.

Speaker A:

But in the future.

Speaker C:

Modern day prequel.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I mean, I. I don't really. I understand that they're all in, like, modern times, so. And I don't. But I don't pay attention to any of them being like, like, oh, here's future Bond. No, it's just. It's all the same guy, just different actor. But it's.

Speaker C:

You know, I feel like there's a. I don't know. Maybe I don't. But they don't all take place in the same timeline.

Speaker A:

Yeah, we're. We're. We're splitting hairs and semantics here.

Speaker B:

So I do believe some do take place in, like, the same timeline as they go along, but it's based on each actor and not.

Speaker C:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Yeah. Like, this isn't picking up from the Pierce Brosnan one.

Speaker C:

No, no, no.

Speaker A:

So it's kind of like starting over a new Bond time, kind of like rebooting it.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And I. Well, I don't. Well, because when they do the. When Amazon, MGM do the new one, I don't. I don't really. I guess I don't ever consider Bond a reboot. I just. It's just a new one.

Speaker A:

I understand it's all one franchise. It's James Bond. But this is like a. A new iteration of James Bond.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Yeah. Okay, fine. Yeah, it's. Never mind.

Speaker A:

I mean, I wasn't doing that to be like, you're wrong, Keith. But no, no, I'm just.

Speaker B:

Cuz now I'm like, man, you know

Speaker A:

what you've talked yourself into, into realizing it's a reboot. Yeah.

Speaker B:

Just like Dreamscape is, you know, pre Inception.

Speaker C:

It's.

Speaker A:

That's. Okay.

Speaker B:

Yeah, it's a reboot. I should have just. All right, well, I should have just accepted it.

Speaker A:

You know, we can fight about rebooting all day long, but before we do that and before we talk about our viewing or even do a deep dive, did any of us have any previous knowledge, history, or experience with casino royale from 2006? Not the casino royale from 1967?

Speaker B:

Yeah. Not the weird one.

Speaker A:

No.

Speaker C:

Isn't that. That. No, No, I don't want to get into it, but yes, I've seen this before.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I've seen. A couple times.

Speaker A:

Nice. I had not. I think I've seen Skyfall, but I don't remember any of it, but I definitely hadn't seen this one before.

Speaker C:

There's one part of this movie I remember as soon as it started to happen I was like, oh God, I don't know what's about to happen. Yeah, there's a chair involved. The swinging rope perhaps?

Speaker B:

Yeah, it's the goatsy of this movie.

Speaker A:

Is that a new book that we do every time now?

Speaker C:

I hope not. I don't want to remind about that.

Speaker A:

Now what we need to do boys, you sit there back sit, sit, sit. Sit back there and relax right now. Because what I'm going to do. Got a little cage in there for a minute.

Speaker C:

You did.

Speaker A:

Sit back in there and relax now y'. All.

Speaker C:

We need a Cajun Bond.

Speaker B:

Yeah, it's. It's been well blanc I think, right?

Speaker A:

Yeah, it is. Kind of what I'm going to do is I'm going to take us closer to casino royale from 2006 than you could ever dare dreamed of getting in another patent pending fumblers deep dive. All right. Casino Royale. This some bitch. Came out on November 17th of 2006 just in time for Thanksgiving. It's RAMPG 13 runs at 2 hours and 24 minutes. After earning a license to kill, secret agent James Bond sets out on his first mission as 007 Bond must defeat a private banker funding terrorists in a high stakes games of. High stakes game of poker at Casino Royale in Montenegro. It has a 94 certified fresh after 265 reviews on Rotten Tomatoes.

Speaker C:

Wow.

Speaker A:

Clocks in at an 8 even on IMDb which is very high for a movie. It's like a 300000 review since an 8.

Speaker C:

That's gotta be like in the top 250 on IMDb. Probably.

Speaker A:

It's gotta be. It has was made on 150 million dollar budget. It opened to 40.8 million which was good enough for second that week.

Speaker B:

Oh, by what?

Speaker A:

The top five? Stranger Than Fiction with 6.6 million. The Santa Claus 3. The Escape Clause at 8.3 million.

Speaker C:

Santa Claus versus Jack Frost I believe. Yeah.

Speaker A:

Borat 14.6 million. Casino Royale too. And then the other movie opening up. So Casino Royal had 40.8.

Speaker C:

That Batman movie, isn't it?

Speaker A:

Happy Feet with 41.5 million.

Speaker C:

Not even close.

Speaker A:

Happy Feet with 41.5. Casino Royale with 40.8. So not even a million separating the the two from first and second.

Speaker C:

Wow.

Speaker A:

It ended up doing 167 million domestic and 616 and a half million worldwide. Good.

Speaker C:

But that a. That's not Happy Feet. Money, that's for sure. No.

Speaker A:

Well, that worldwide's better than Happy Feet, I bet.

Speaker C:

No. Yeah, probably.

Speaker A:

A couple quick blurbs I grabbed Peter Howell from the Toronto Star. Had this to say. Gone or reshaped are most of the conceits that have made Bond movies seem like an exercise in parody and nostalgia. Agree with that.

Speaker C:

True.

Speaker A:

Richard Corliss, though, from Time magazine said this. This is a Bond with great body but no soul. Wow. Disagreeing with that one.

Speaker C:

Interesting.

Speaker B:

That's why.

Speaker C:

Great body. What does that even mean?

Speaker A:

I'm assuming because he came out. There's that scene where he comes out of the water. Oh, like he's just ripped shorts. Yeah. He is pretty jacked in this movie,

Speaker C:

which he looks good.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I was surprised.

Speaker C:

The film looks great, pa. But the meaning is g. What.

Speaker A:

What's wild to me is now I picture Daniel Craig only as Benoit Blanc, and I. I forget that he was Bond and he was jacked. Anyway.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

This movie was directed by Martin Campbell. He has 39 directing credits in TV and film going back to 1973.

Speaker C:

Yep.

Speaker A:

He did five episodes of the Professionals, two episodes of Berger, two episodes of Homicide, Life on the Streets. He directed another Bond Golden Eye. He did the Mask of. Yep. He did the Mask of Zorro. He did 1973's Sex Thief. But in 2011, he directed Green Lantern.

Speaker C:

Oh, God. He did Green Lantern.

Speaker A:

Reckless test pilot Hal Jordan is granted an alien ring that bestows him with otherworldly powers that induce ducks him into an intergalactic police force. The Green Lantern Court.

Speaker C:

That is honestly hard to believe that he directed that.

Speaker B:

I'm very much going to stay here state right now that we're going to see the fact that the wheel is Derek's best friend. Otherwise he would not have mentioned this movie.

Speaker A:

I'm putting it out there. I'm tempting fate because this is the movie I declared I'll never watch.

Speaker C:

That's true.

Speaker A:

I have not seen to this date.

Speaker C:

The power's in our hands.

Speaker A:

If we choose I this. There's nothing. There's no hubris about this. I'm throwing out there because I do not fear it. If I get stuck having to watch it, I get stuck having to watch it. But I wonder odds working out now

Speaker B:

I now I know that I've picked Time Bandits two months in a row. Is there possibility? Can two people pick the same movie?

Speaker A:

Yeah, you can. All three of us can pick Green Lantern if you want to. I don't care.

Speaker C:

Somehow it lands right in the middle

Speaker A:

again for like 10 hours. God damn it.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Anyway, that movie stars Ryan Reynolds, Blake Lively and Peter Sgurd.

Speaker C:

Aren't Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively married?

Speaker A:

I believe they are, yeah.

Speaker C:

Did they meet on Green Lantern? I wonder.

Speaker A:

Probably.

Speaker C:

How romantic.

Speaker A:

Green Lantern brings people together.

Speaker C:

That's true. I've always said that.

Speaker A:

Now, this movie has three writers. Neil Purvis, Robert Wade, and Paul Haggis. Neil Purvis and Robert Wade have the same credits. They appear to be writing a team. They both have 16 Reddit credits in movie and video games going back to 19, 1991. Lots of bond and Bond like stuff. The World Is Not Enough, Die Another Day, Quantum of Solace, Skyfall, Specter, Johnny English and Johnny English Reborn.

Speaker C:

There's two of those.

Speaker A:

Yep. But in 2005, they wrote the screenplay for a movie called Stoned, A chronicle of the sordid life and death of Rolling Stones co founder Brian Jones, who was found in the bottom of his swimming pool weeks after being let go from the band. Wow, that sounded interesting to me. Stars Leo Gregory, Patty Consendine, and David Morrissey. Never heard of him.

Speaker C:

Never heard of it either.

Speaker A:

No, I didn't know there was another founding member of the Rolling Stones that died. Couldn't he tell?

Speaker C:

Never heard about this. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker A:

I thought.

Speaker B:

I thought, like, the guys in the Rolling Stones would never die.

Speaker A:

Yeah. Well, Keith Richards is the fountain of youth or something. He's got. It's got infinity stone stuck in or something.

Speaker B:

Or he's pickled one of the two.

Speaker A:

One of the two.

Speaker C:

Every morning he goes into a vat of.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

Pickling juice.

Speaker A:

Yeah. Comes out. It comes out of some goo. Ten years younger, I suppose.

Speaker B:

Like a Lazarus Pit.

Speaker A:

Like a Lazarus.

Speaker C:

He's like Raza Ghoul, but pickles.

Speaker B:

But pickle juice.

Speaker C:

Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker A:

Now, is Lazarus pickle tart like a dill or is it sweet like a gherkin?

Speaker C:

Please don't be sweet.

Speaker B:

I don't know, but that sounds like a cool band name.

Speaker A:

Lazarus Pickle.

Speaker B:

Yeah, fair enough.

Speaker A:

Sounds like a ska band.

Speaker C:

Yeah, I'm not gonna listen to that band.

Speaker B:

They're not gonna be on Metal Mondays.

Speaker C:

No.

Speaker A:

The other writer for this movie is Paul Haggis. Now, you guys better buckle in for this. He has 46 credits in TV and film going back to 1980. This guy's done some stuff.

Speaker C:

Okay.

Speaker A:

He did three episodes of the Plastic man cartoon.

Speaker C:

Okay.

Speaker A:

21 episodes of the Richie Rich Scooby Doo Show.

Speaker C:

I'm buckled in. This is exciting.

Speaker A:

Hold on. It only gets better. Four episodes of Different Strokes. He did movies like Million Dollar Baby. Crash. He did the Quantum of Solace as well.

Speaker B:

Hold on. The guy who did the Plastic Man Hour and Richie Rich, Scooby Doo.

Speaker A:

Yes. Wrote Million Dollar Baby and Crash, even though Crash is much maligned Oscar winner, but he wrote it.

Speaker C:

Is that the Crash by David Grovenberg? David?

Speaker A:

No, this is the Crash about racist cops.

Speaker C:

Oh, okay.

Speaker A:

But his claim to fame, his PS De resistance.

Speaker B:

Okay, that's the second time this week I've heard that term.

Speaker A:

He is the creator of Walker, Texas Rangers.

Speaker C:

Dang. Okay. It was worth it.

Speaker B:

This might be the most legendary guy we've ever had on there.

Speaker A:

The creator. He is credited on all, like, 200 episodes of Walker, Texas Ranger, and all 100 episodes of the new one, Walker. Plus all the Walker movies. There's.

Speaker C:

He's a mastermind of the Walker universe.

Speaker A:

He created Walker, Texas Ranger.

Speaker C:

That's amazing.

Speaker A:

It is amazing.

Speaker C:

Did he write the theme song?

Speaker A:

I. I didn't look into that.

Speaker B:

I think. I think Chuck Norris just freestyles that. I'll be honest.

Speaker A:

Prob.

Speaker C:

That's pretty cool. Good for him. Yeah, he probably makes so much money off of residuals just doing.

Speaker A:

Oh, God. Yeah, he's got a. He's probably lives in a castle in Texas.

Speaker C:

Yeah. They probably nominated him as, like, their lord.

Speaker A:

His face is on the new state flag.

Speaker C:

Yeah, he's the Lord of Texas.

Speaker A:

And his last name's Haggis. Lord Haggis.

Speaker C:

Yes. I.

Speaker B:

You know what? That sounds like a Bond villain.

Speaker A:

It does.

Speaker C:

It does.

Speaker A:

And Scottish guy, bunch of sheep, stomachs filled with.

Speaker B:

Actually, no, that sounds more like a Austin Powers bad guy now I think about it.

Speaker A:

Yeah. Yeah. It sounds like some kind of bad guy because your last name is Haggis. He can't be good.

Speaker B:

That's true.

Speaker C:

I wouldn't mess with anybody named Haggis.

Speaker A:

Nope.

Speaker B:

Or Food.

Speaker A:

Nope. Last name of Food. I wouldn't mess with me there.

Speaker C:

No. Lord Food.

Speaker A:

This movie stars Daniel Craig as James Bond. He has 80 acting credits in TV and film going back to 92. He played Fix in an episode of Drop the Dead Donkey.

Speaker B:

What?

Speaker C:

Okay, okay.

Speaker A:

I have no idea what the show is. It's called Drop the Dead Donkey. I don't know if the donkey's name is Drop and he's dead or if it's a command like drop the dead donkey.

Speaker C:

I like to think there's people trying to steal that dead donkey.

Speaker A:

Every week it's. It's a new group trying to steal it.

Speaker C:

It's a heist movie or heist TV show where. Yeah, it's a new group, and they're like, we gotta get that donkey out of there. It's just, like, rotting. And there's like, some guy just trying to stop them.

Speaker B:

It's a reality show.

Speaker A:

Yes. We gotta get that donkey. He played Barry in an episode of Tales from the Crypt. He's Detective Benoit Blanc in the Knives out movies. He played Lord Azrael in the Golden Compass. He was a stormtrooper in the Force Awakens.

Speaker C:

He was?

Speaker B:

Yeah, yeah. Him and Abrams are buddies, I think.

Speaker A:

Yep, he was. Here's a movie I've never seen, but I'm assuming his name is 4x's xxxx in layer Cake.

Speaker B:

That's actually not too bad movie.

Speaker A:

Never seen it. He played Alex west in Laura Croft. I'm sorry, Lara Croft, Tomb Raider. But in 2002, he played Connor Rooney in Road to Perdition.

Speaker B:

Oh.

Speaker A:

A mob enforcer son in 1930s Illinois witnesses a murder forcing him and his father to take to the road and his father down a path of redemption and revenge.

Speaker C:

That's a movie you like quite a bit, right?

Speaker A:

Oh, quite a bit. Stars Tom Hanks, Tyler Hoechlin, and Paul Newman. It's a very good movie. This movie also stars Eva Green as Vesper Lind. She has 35 acting credits going back to 2001. She was Sybilla in Kingdom of Heaven, Angelique Bouchard in Dark shadows, Artemisia in 300. Colon. Rise of the Empire. Rise of the Empire.

Speaker C:

301 is what.

Speaker A:

She's Ava in Sin City. Colon. A dame to kill for. Okay. That was for you. She was Seraphina Pekala.

Speaker C:

Disgusting.

Speaker A:

Oh, she was Seraphina Pekala in the Golden Compass.

Speaker C:

Really?

Speaker A:

Yep. But in 2019, she played Colette Marchant in Disney's live action recreation of their animated classic Dumbo.

Speaker C:

Oh.

Speaker A:

A young elephant whose oversized ears enable him to fly helps save a struggling circus. But when the circus plans a new venture, Dumbo and his friends discover dark secrets beneath its shiny veneer.

Speaker C:

The shiny veneer of the circus. I wonder what's beneath you.

Speaker A:

Ever.

Speaker B:

You ever watched the original Dumbo?

Speaker A:

Yeah, a long time ago.

Speaker B:

It's a terrible movie.

Speaker C:

Is it terrible?

Speaker A:

I'm sure it's not good.

Speaker B:

I watched it with my kids when they were. When they were younger, and it's.

Speaker C:

It's.

Speaker A:

It's awful.

Speaker B:

Like, it's. There's a weird, like, trippy scene. I think if you were on some drugs, might be kind of fun.

Speaker C:

But, like.

Speaker A:

Oh, the. The pink elephant scene.

Speaker B:

Yeah. But for the most part, I was just like, get drunk. I think it's not like a very good movie.

Speaker A:

Well, this one, I don't know if it's good or not, but it's directed by Tim Burton. I don't know who who voices Dumbar out of this group of starring, but I'm sure it's not Colin Farrell, Michael Keeaton or Danny DeVito. Those are the top three names on it.

Speaker C:

I wish I was Daniel Craig. I can't imagine my blanc voice,

Speaker A:

but it's not. I can't imagine one of those. There's Dumbo, so it's got to be

Speaker C:

one of those three.

Speaker A:

No way is Colin Farrell. Michael Keats. I bet you.

Speaker C:

I bet it's Colin Farrell is Dumbo.

Speaker A:

I didn't even look now.

Speaker C:

I bet it is. I bet it is. Why wouldn't it be?

Speaker A:

Why? Because he's like a 50 year old man when this movie came out and Dumbo's a child.

Speaker C:

You can do voice.

Speaker A:

Holt Farrier. Michael Keaton plays. Va Van de vere.

Speaker B:

Okay, I move. Oh, man. You know what? I wonder if Dumbo doesn't actually talk.

Speaker C:

Holt Farrier might be Dumbo's like real name. Dumbo's nickname.

Speaker A:

You think Holt Ferrier is a. Yeah, I think so.

Speaker C:

Does double not talk? Because I swear he talks.

Speaker A:

I'm scrolling through everything. I have not seen a single person. Oh, I see Dumbo performer Ed Osmond, but I do not see a Dumbo.

Speaker C:

Oh, this is like realistic. This is like dumb. No animals will talk. Because that would just take you out

Speaker A:

of the movie from, from Mr. Whimsy himself. Tim Burton says no animals can talk in my Dumbo meat.

Speaker C:

Dumbo will never talk. Or should I call him Holt Ferrier? His real name.

Speaker A:

It'd be awesome if, if Colin Farrell was in the movie. And all I did was like the, the green screen. He had all the little balls on them and yeah, just. He did the mocap for Dumbo.

Speaker C:

He's like Benedict Cumberbatches the dragon.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Or what's his face that does all the apes and.

Speaker C:

Oh, what is that guy? Yeah.

Speaker B:

Andy Circus.

Speaker C:

Yep.

Speaker A:

Yeah, Andy Circus.

Speaker C:

They just like put some giant like green mocap ears on him. He has like, there's like puppeteers like flapping them while he like runs around.

Speaker A:

I love that. Also in this movie is Dame Judi Dench as m. She has 142 acting credits in every medium known to man going back to 1952. She has eight Oscar nominations, including one win for her role as Queen Elizabeth and Shakespeare in Love.

Speaker B:

Oh yeah.

Speaker A:

She was M in eight different Bond movies. She also played Ms. Humphries in her first movie called the Third Secret. She played Sally in a movie called A Study in Terror. Oh, Joanne in He who Rides a Tiger.

Speaker C:

Okay.

Speaker A:

She played Luther's wife in Luther. She was Old Deuteronomy in Cats. And I haven't butthole one.

Speaker C:

That's the butthole cat.

Speaker A:

The Butthole Cats.

Speaker C:

She from the new Cats.

Speaker B:

You are lining up here with Dumbo and Green Lantern and Cats.

Speaker A:

I know she plays Old Deuteronomy. I couldn't tell you what that is or who it is. If it's a cat. I'm assuming it is.

Speaker C:

I mean, maybe it's a chance.

Speaker A:

Keep. This one's for you. She was in Murder on the Orient Express.

Speaker B:

Why is that one for me?

Speaker A:

It's a. It's a call back to an old podcast.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah, because I did watch

Speaker C:

this.

Speaker A:

I can't remember what that guy's name was. He's like. I don't know. Murder on the Orient Express. It's like he was looking forward to.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker A:

He played. She was in Pride and Prejudice. She was in an episode of Angelina Ballerina video called Friends Forever.

Speaker B:

But maybe Chris Osborne.

Speaker A:

By the way, that's his name. But in 2004, she played Ariane in the Chronicles of Riddick.

Speaker C:

Oh, wow.

Speaker A:

The wanted criminal Richard Bruno Riddick arrives on a plane. Bruno. That's his middle name. Rides on a plane.

Speaker C:

Come on.

Speaker A:

Hellion Prime. And finds himself up against an invading empire called the Necromongers and an army that plans to convert or kill all humans in the universe. Stars Vin Diesel.

Speaker C:

I've seen it. It's not very good.

Speaker B:

No, it's not.

Speaker A:

I love Pitch Black. I thought that was.

Speaker C:

Black's good, though. Yeah, Pitch Black is good. And that one that came after Chronicles of Ridic, that's basically a remake of Pitch Black is Good as well. What is that one called?

Speaker A:

I don't know.

Speaker C:

I think it's just called Riddick. I think it's just called Ridic.

Speaker A:

And that's pretty good.

Speaker C:

But Chronic. Oh, I did not like that.

Speaker A:

Weird.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Never seen.

Speaker C:

Really weird movie.

Speaker A:

Finally, the last person I'm going to talk about is Mads Mickelson as La Chiffe. Depending on who says it, he has 73 acting credits in TV, film and video games going back to 1996. He was Ronnie in Angel of the Night, Lenny in Bleeder. He played Tristan in King Arthur, Draco in the Clash of the Titans, rochefort in the Three Musketeers. He was in 39 episodes of the TV show Hannibal, where he played the titular Dr. Hannibal Lecter.

Speaker C:

He does such a good job.

Speaker B:

Very good. Yeah.

Speaker A:

He was the accountant in Rihanna's video for Better have My Money.

Speaker B:

That's amazing. That's the greatest credit right there.

Speaker A:

He, of course, played Galen Erso in Rogue One.

Speaker C:

Yep, yep.

Speaker A:

He was most recently in Dust Bunny as intriguing neighbor. But in 2023, he played Dr. Voller in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny.

Speaker C:

Oh, he was in that.

Speaker A:

Yeah. Archaeologist Indiana Jones races against time to retrieve a legendary artifact that can change the course of history. Stars Harrison Ford, Phoebe Waller Bridge, and Antonio Bandettis.

Speaker C:

I never watched that one.

Speaker A:

I never really. I enjoyed it quite a bit.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Thought it was quite good.

Speaker C:

Okay, I have to check it out, guys.

Speaker A:

Ready for some Casino Royale fun facts?

Speaker C:

Yes.

Speaker A:

I'm always ready for that first fun one. The theme song, you know, My Name was sung and produced by Chris Cornell of Soundgarden and Audio Slave fame.

Speaker C:

Oh, you know, his voice sounded so familiar, I just could not figure out who it was.

Speaker A:

He co wrote the song with David Arnold, who is an English film composer with credits including scoring five Bond films. He also scored the Stargate movie, Independence day, Godzilla from 1998, Shaft 2000. It lost me Too Fast, Too Furious. You brought me back Four Brothers, Hot Fuzz, and, oh, the TV show Sherlock.

Speaker C:

All right, he's got some. He's got some.

Speaker A:

He's got chops.

Speaker C:

He's got some bad stuff I could. It's fine.

Speaker B:

Everybody's got some pets.

Speaker A:

I mean, he didn't make the movie Godzilla. He just scored it, right?

Speaker C:

He had a hand in it.

Speaker A:

You think they altered the course of the movie based upon his scoring?

Speaker C:

They might have. They might have heard his score and said, oh, you know what? Let's just make it a.

Speaker A:

We need to put him on an ice rink or whatever they do with it. I can't remember.

Speaker C:

Yeah, let's have this. Velociraptor eggs.

Speaker A:

That's right, the eggs. All right. The way Bond orders his first vodka martini is lifted directly from the Ian Fleming novels.

Speaker C:

Awesome. That's cool.

Speaker B:

Very nice.

Speaker A:

This is the first movie in the 44 Years of James Bond where it rains.

Speaker C:

What?

Speaker A:

This is the first time in a Bond movie it rained.

Speaker C:

Really? That surprises me.

Speaker A:

I. I thought so, too.

Speaker C:

No one ever thought to make a. A rainy Bond film?

Speaker A:

I guess not.

Speaker C:

Wow. That's crazy. I'm surprised it didn't rain at least once. We know it snowed.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah, it's different type of precipitation doesn't count.

Speaker A:

It's not rain. Daniel Craig initially rejected the part of James Bond as he felt the series had settled into a standard formula. He changed his mind when he read the finished script, and I guess the rest is history.

Speaker C:

Good decision on his part. Yeah.

Speaker B:

And he wasn't wrong in his opinion.

Speaker A:

No. To prepare for the role, Daniel Craig read all of Ian Fleming's novels and talked with Mossad and British Secret service agents who had also served as advisors on the film Munich in 2005.

Speaker C:

He read every novel. How many novels are there, do you think?

Speaker A:

About 350, 000.

Speaker B:

We go back and listen to this week's episode.

Speaker A:

Yeah, Keith. Keith told us it was a lot. Yeah, it was like 30 something and a bunch of short stories.

Speaker B:

There's 12 that are by Ian Fleming, plus some short stories by him. And I think there's like 35 or 36 that are considered.

Speaker C:

Oh, there's like el extended universe.

Speaker B:

Yeah, yeah. Because there's like a whole comic book line and stuff right now too. But I think it counts in with that are.

Speaker A:

That are Bond official.

Speaker C:

Yeah, yeah, there are quite a bit w. Yeah.

Speaker B:

And they're. And they're. It's not like they're doing like a comic version of Casino Royale. It's like, I think a whole fresh story and stuff like that.

Speaker A:

Nice. The car barrel roll stunt by the Aston Martin DBS broke the world record for the most barrel rolls. Assisted by a cannon.

Speaker C:

Assisted by a cannon.

Speaker A:

Yes. An amazing. It's amazing world record. I love this one.

Speaker B:

So the fact that it's more than one is. It's crazy.

Speaker A:

So originally, the racing specifications, the dbs, meant that a standard ramp would not be sufficient to get the car to roll. So they had to build like a cannon that an air cannon built into the car to like blast it into the air to make it roll. Seven full rolls.

Speaker C:

That's a lot of rolls.

Speaker B:

And what is second on this list?

Speaker A:

I don't know, but seven is the record and it's in the Guinness Book World Records.

Speaker B:

Does Guinness Book World records, like, list, like the top three of everything? Like, like, hey, here's a world record and here's where. Here's what the second one was like. If it was like, close, I have no idea.

Speaker C:

I'd be so mad if I was the had the record. And this movie came out for six

Speaker A:

and a half rules.

Speaker B:

Yeah. Because you picked something you thought would never be done again.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

It's like, who's gonna use a cannon to make A car roll.

Speaker C:

Yeah. This will never get beat. No one's gonna try and beat this.

Speaker A:

But it's so hyper specific that I feel like the record was made because of what they did.

Speaker C:

Yeah, I think you're right. It probably just they thought of that. They're like, you know what?

Speaker A:

And they can say that during the press, you know, of the movie. Like, yeah, we're in the world. Guest book. World records for most car roles assisted by a canon. Oh, okay.

Speaker C:

They're like, probably like, oh. For most car rolls and then assisted by canon.

Speaker A:

Well, that's just still good, I guess.

Speaker C:

I mean, it's still cool. I just. Yeah. You know, but I had a canon.

Speaker B:

I mean, should we find something in the guestbook? World records we think we can beat.

Speaker A:

No, I don't.

Speaker C:

Most monsters episode watched

Speaker B:

in the two year span.

Speaker C:

There's no way we beat that record.

Speaker A:

No. Because there's more monster episodes than the ones we watched.

Speaker C:

Yeah, we already lost.

Speaker A:

And those are podcasts dedicated to it,

Speaker C:

so I'm sure they say podcast that covered them, but. No, we're not even that, are we? Dang it. I'll keep brainstorming. It has to be mustard.

Speaker A:

Related. The opening parkour chase took several weeks to film.

Speaker C:

I bet that was an intense chase.

Speaker A:

That was a very cool chase. Daniel Craig became the first actor to be nominated for a BAFTA for playing James Bond.

Speaker C:

Wow.

Speaker A:

Lazenby was the first one for a Golden Globe.

Speaker C:

Wow.

Speaker A:

This one's a BAFTA for best Actor.

Speaker C:

That's crazy.

Speaker A:

Yep. Daniel Craig quit smoking and had Simon Waterson as a personal trainer to get into shape. I don't know who Simon Waterson is, but it was name drop, so I

Speaker C:

threw it in there. Good for him. He looks great.

Speaker A:

Yeah. For Daniel Craig's now iconic scene where he rises out of the sea in a pair of Speedos, many of the crew were out of camera range in boats fighting off the paparazzi. Wow.

Speaker C:

People could not get enough of him in the Speedo.

Speaker A:

People wanted to see Daniel Craig and Speedo.

Speaker C:

Just wait till the movie comes out. You get to see all you want.

Speaker A:

No, exactly. What do you get? Like, hot scoop. Knowing that he's like, in a Speedo.

Speaker C:

Breaking news, breaking news.

Speaker A:

Tmz.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Much was made at this movie's release about Daniel Craig's buff body. Being in such prime condition was not new to Craig though, because at one point he had been a semi professional rugby player.

Speaker C:

Really? Well, good for him.

Speaker A:

According to Daniel Craig, the only CGI in this movie was to erase safety wires in A lot of the stunt sequences. And then at the end, they integrate the exploding model for the sinking palazzo into the real Venetian location.

Speaker C:

That makes sense.

Speaker A:

They didn't really blow up a building in on the canals of Venice, but cool. They did.

Speaker C:

They should have.

Speaker A:

And then finally, there is a story visible on Le Chiff's computer on the same page that has the story of Bond's latest mission at the embassy. It states that a French football player called Neil Pinkawa has stated he is not retiring from the national soccer team. Neil Pinkawa is this movie's lead screen graphics artist. He would have been in charge of creating all the mock web pages in the movie. So he made himself a soccer star and put it into the.

Speaker B:

That's awesome.

Speaker A:

That's what I put in there. Because I was like, this is great. If I had that role, I would do that, too.

Speaker C:

Me, too.

Speaker A:

And that's as close as I can get us to Casino Royale.

Speaker C:

I never thought we'd get that close to.

Speaker B:

I thought I was about to sit down at the table to start playing. That's how close you got us. Yeah.

Speaker A:

Splashing that pot.

Speaker C:

That pot got splashed.

Speaker A:

I don't know. I really enjoyed this deep dive. It was a lot of fun. Oh, and I know. I know we're gonna talk about this movie, but this is a really good movie. I was floored at how good this movie was. So good that I was like, do I need to go watch all the other Bond movies? That's what I felt like after watching

Speaker C:

not just Daniel Craig, but everybody.

Speaker A:

All of the Bond movies.

Speaker C:

That's.

Speaker B:

That's kind of what I'm doing.

Speaker C:

Because.

Speaker B:

So, like, Dr. No and stuff like. Get, like, they're in, like, the 90s. Like, the really upper 90s as far as, like, rotten tomato stuff that. And I think, like, the first three of them are all, like, in the 90s and stuff like that. So I'm trying to rewatch some of those because I. This is. I'm. I know you'll ask us later what we thought. This is my favorite Bond movie.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Like, we're gonna get into it, but hot. I was. I was floored. Floored by how good this was.

Speaker C:

I. I know we're gonna talk about this, but I really like this film.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I. I know we're gonna talk about this.

Speaker A:

Let's talk about it. Let's talk about Casino Royale. God damn it.

Speaker C:

It's really good. I like this version of Bond. I like a lot grittier, serious, grounded version. Like, this is such a nice contrast to Like Tomorrow Never Dies I liked, but not nearly as much as this. And Her Majesty, Secret Service from 1969 is, like, a very, like, weird movie in terms of tone and.

Speaker A:

Yes. The.

Speaker C:

The quips and all that stuff. Like, I like that this Bond is kind of like a broken man.

Speaker A:

The other two Bonds we watched were borderline comedies, which is fine. Right. Like, if that's what you're gonna do. This quirky spy, this movie. And. And it was gritty in the sense that it was very grounded in its violence. Right. Yeah. It wasn't. It didn't make light of the violence anyway. It wasn't like Bond, like, shooting a gun behind his head and behind his back and stuff like that. It wasn't stuff like that, but. And it wasn't grim, dark in any way whatsoever, which was like a real thing at the time. Like, after Batman Begins comes out and, like, oh, everything's got to be, like, super dark and whatever. But, man, this is just surprised at everything in this movie.

Speaker B:

Yeah. Like, I think, like, when we watched Under Majesty, Secret Service. What year was that? 1969. 1969. Like, you didn't really find out even, like, what the overall, like, plot and goal was until like, two thirds of the way into the movie. And. And even then, it doesn't like, really kind of come around anything. I like how this one is set up with, like, hey, first of all, you gotta become 007.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

You gotta kill two people to get that.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

I had no idea that's how you became 007.

Speaker B:

Yeah. And then.

Speaker A:

Is that what the two O's mean?

Speaker B:

I think so, I guess. Yeah.

Speaker A:

Be a double O. You gotta kill two.

Speaker C:

The more you kill, the more O's you get.

Speaker B:

And. But then, like. Like this one, I mean, they. They go in, like, the, you know, the parkours, and he's chasing the bomb guy. It's all related to, like, trying to track down, you know, and it's almost like there's two. Like, there's one movie prior to them getting to where the casino is, and then there's like, almost like a second movie of all the stuff while they're. They're in. Was it wherever the casino is located at.

Speaker A:

Montenegro.

Speaker B:

Montenegro, yeah. So it's almost like two separate things because especially also in the whole first half, he is, you know, he's just wearing, like, a leather jacket, some jeans.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

He's, you know, rugged, running around, doing stuff. And then, you know, he gets, you know, he gets the tux and all the other stuff that we're Used to seeing him in, like, the fancier clothes.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Or that's, like, what you. The stereotypical picture of him. And we don't get that for, like, almost a full half of the movie. Yeah, And I love that.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I agree.

Speaker B:

Just when nobody breaks it down for him, it just. The gadgets of the car come up, like, natural and organically. And I think that that works out really well with this one.

Speaker A:

Yeah. And he just does stuff, and he's good at the stuff. And some of it uses gadgets. Like last week, we forgot to talk about it. But it opens up like there's. There's this comical, like, terrorist swap meet.

Speaker C:

Yeah. It's like an auction. Yeah. There's a swap meet. They're all looking at each other. How much you paying for this? How much would you sell this for?

Speaker A:

Yeah. But on. On a hill within visible shot is like, this weird satellite thing that bonds up, like, nobody know, like.

Speaker C:

Like a little tiny camera poking out of the snow, like. Yes, like that thing in the Empire Strikes Back that peaks his head out of the ground.

Speaker A:

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker C:

Just probably making sounds just like that. That, like, just. Right.

Speaker A:

Blows it up.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So there's, like. That is like. It's comical. That's, like. To me, that's, like, comedy level of parody of James Bond. This is just like. Like KE said, it's all organic. It's. It felt like all the spy stuff in this movie was very cool. Very spyy. All the action was very cool. Well, practical stunts. That fight up on the crane was done by two people on a crane.

Speaker C:

Let me. Let me ask you about this crane thing, because now it's a cool chase scene and all, but if a guy goes up on a crane, he's gotta come back down eventually.

Speaker A:

That was my thought, too.

Speaker C:

Why would you chase him up there when he can just wait at the bottom? All right, he'll come down. Sometimes.

Speaker A:

Gotta come down. Unless he just keeps going up. You never know.

Speaker C:

He finds another crane on top of it.

Speaker A:

You can't risk it. Why are we just climbing an invisible crate?

Speaker C:

Oh, God. You can't see that high up. There might be another crane up there.

Speaker A:

You never know.

Speaker C:

Did you just see a guy start floating into the. He's getting raptured. You're like, oh, crap.

Speaker A:

Damn it. I knew I should have chased him up there. He's getting raptured.

Speaker B:

The fight scene in the stairwell.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Is very good. And. And also the fact that, like, you, I think, Derek, you said earlier they don't take. You know, they don't take the violence lightly because that's the whole thing where like she's watching him.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

And it's the first time that he's ever showed this side of himself of being like, you know, just, you know, killer, you know, basically a pit bull for the, for MI6 to go out there and do something. He's just choking that dude out. She's just sitting there watch, like. And then finally she jumps in to like help stop the guy from getting to the gun and everything. Like, I really like that scene. And yeah. Then the fact that like when he comes back to the hotel room and she's just sitting there in the shower, like.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Like all just like freaked out about it. I, I really. That's really well done with this because it shows the impact of like the crazy violence that's going on throughout this movie.

Speaker C:

I think it does a good job of. Yeah. Showcasing like the psychology of Bond. We don't really ever feel like, go into his like what he is as. You know, like you get like kind of like the broad strokes. I feel. I mean, I. Like I said I haven't seen a lot of Bond, but from what I've seen, it feels like a lot of times it's more just like, look at the suave guy. He makes jokes when he kills people. It's kind of more light hearted, I guess. This feels like it like goes into like, well, what would this guy be like in a more realistic scenario? He's a killer. So he's got all this like, you know, he's got these walls he builds up around himself to like, he can't get. So he can't get hurt emotionally, all this stuff. And you kind of have to see as he like breaks those down, connects with people. Yeah. It's very interesting to like learn about him in that way.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And. And it does what the Lazenby one does in such a much better. A much better way with him, like, you know, falling in love and finding. Oh God, like this person and then them, you know, not just a quick bullet to the head that somebody drives by. Like just that, you know, that whole scene and like him not being able to save her, like, it's just. It's so well, well done.

Speaker A:

Yeah. What was wild about that? So the movie goes and then it has its. It's almost like it's climax, but it's not. It's like it's a pre climax and there's still like 25 minutes.

Speaker C:

I know. I was like, huh? It's still going.

Speaker A:

Yeah, like And I'm like, oh, my God, she's gonna die. That's my first thought. I'm like, though they Bond has found happiness, but he can't find happiness because James Bond, he's just.

Speaker B:

He just emailed in his resignation on the official server.

Speaker C:

Wow. That's the end of the Bond that's over. Last of the franchise, he just quit.

Speaker A:

But the. The obvious answer is she's gonna die. But it's not because she's gonna die. It's because she double crossed him. Like, you son of a. Why would you.

Speaker C:

I was mad at her.

Speaker A:

Yeah. Yeah, me too. I'm like, God damn it. You guys could have had all money and you could have gone, traveled the world and here you are trying to save some guy you don't care about anymore now.

Speaker C:

Yep, Yep. It's a. It's a tragic ending, but it does a much better job of building up. What's her name? Eva Green's character?

Speaker B:

Vesper.

Speaker C:

Yeah, Vesper. Vesper. Vesper is a much more like integral character throughout the whole film. Yep. Which is nice.

Speaker A:

Yeah. There's weight to it.

Speaker C:

Like, always something. She's always there. You see them build their connection the whole time. It doesn't happen in like a montage or anything. It happens throughout the film.

Speaker A:

Yeah. They have that great exchange when they're going to Montenegro.

Speaker C:

Yes.

Speaker A:

Where she's like, I'm the money. It's like, oh, worth every penny. Blah, blah. Right. They made that joke. But when. When they're doing like the reading people and the poker thing back and forth and then she reads him.

Speaker C:

Yes.

Speaker A:

My favorite line. How is your lamb? Skewered. Yeah, I. I kind of know how it feels or whatever. Something like. Something. Yeah, it was.

Speaker C:

I can relate.

Speaker A:

I can relate. Yeah, it was beautiful. It was. It was such a great, very well done character building. Like, it just. Just a perfect little scene. And I loved.

Speaker C:

It ends in a classic Bond faction with. Or fashion with like a little joke, you know? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker A:

Tried to throw it off to the side. Like, man, I just like this. She's cool. And. But she. Man, she's just roasted me, man.

Speaker C:

Yeah, it's like, Bond can do it. She can do it too. Like.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I like that.

Speaker B:

I also like this because then, like the one that, you know the Pierce Brosnan we saw where they. When he meets Michelle. Yo. And they kind of have this like, back and forth and it's because they're both spies, so it kind of works. And. And I know Vesper's not a spy, but she Works in the government. So she kind of understands, like, the whole world that he's in, at least to some extent. And so you get those two, like, they're connecting because of that, which is what Bond is obviously missing in, you know, most of the time. Like, and he's like, you know, he just. The random Bond girl that he hooks up with, you know, two or three of them that he hooks up with every time, but occasionally get this one where it's like, oh, here's somebody who actually gets what's going on.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And then it just, you know, it ends. An absolute tragedy for that person. But the.

Speaker A:

The poker part of this movie was. I'm not like a poker guy. Like, I like poker. And there was a point where I used to watch like, celebrity poker online or on. Online on TV at night. Like, used to come on, like three in the morning or something like that. Celebrity poker. And I used to watch it and enjoy it. But, like, I don't know enough. Like, I'm. If. If it was on, it was. It was enough to fool me and my amateur pokers. I just enjoyed it. It reminded me of, like, rounders and that scene where they. Where they had the four all ins, right. And each hand, it just gets increasingly

Speaker C:

better than the previous.

Speaker A:

Was awesome. It was an awesome. My heart was pumping at the end. I was like, yeah. Hey, you got a straight flush. God damn it.

Speaker B:

I like, they. They go through like, you know, two full days of playing.

Speaker A:

Uhhuh.

Speaker B:

It. It doesn't take up that much of the movie.

Speaker C:

No, no.

Speaker B:

It's not like they sit there and show you like a giant montage of each one getting chips, them shuffling the chips back and forth between people.

Speaker A:

Nope, just some important hands here and there, some points.

Speaker C:

It's nice. They've got that guy in the. That's helped, like, there to explain everything.

Speaker A:

Yeah. Commissioner Gordon. I can't think what that guy's name is. I really like him as an actor

Speaker B:

because he shows Jeffrey Wright.

Speaker A:

Yeah, he shows up and stuff. I'm always like, yes, He. He's always really good.

Speaker B:

Like, so when Bond shows up after Felix Leer gives him the money, you get back in and he sits down. He's just got the five, you know, the like, five cards or the million dollar cards. Yeah, yeah, those. They're not chips, but they're like a. Whatever they. They are. And then the next thing you know, we see them going around and they're like, oh, here's what we have. And he's just got tons of money.

Speaker A:

Bonds Back up. Yeah. Because he's a really good poker player.

Speaker B:

So one of the things was he's kept talking about the tell.

Speaker A:

Mm.

Speaker B:

Was waiting for it to reveal that, oh, maybe that's not what his, like, the eye thing is not his tell. Because that seemed way too obvious. Like, every time, Every time I get it, I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to tap the side of my, my head a little bit here. I thought it had something to do with the way he was shuffling the chips.

Speaker A:

I. I thought it was that too. Yeah.

Speaker B:

Because it's like the same thing of like router. Terry, have you ever seen routers?

Speaker C:

No.

Speaker A:

Oh, that's a good one.

Speaker B:

Yeah, there's. There's a whole thing about a tell in that one as well. It kind of reminded me of that. That's why I was thinking, like it was gonna be something with the way he was.

Speaker A:

I think it was the check shuffle, whatever he did there. And then when they brought it up, it's like, oh, that's his tell. Just like Bond said. And I was like, oh, they had to do that. But I'm like, okay, they had to do it to like, reestablish store. But then it came up that he was double crosser.

Speaker C:

He was.

Speaker A:

Had to do it.

Speaker C:

Yeah, yeah. It was all playing. I feel like that guy was too smart to like. That's such an obvious tale. He was doing it on purpose.

Speaker B:

I think he also seemed awfully close to the table to be talking that loud.

Speaker A:

Well, that's that too. It's a movie, Keith. I. I forgave that faster than anything I've ever forgiven in a movie I think I've ever seen.

Speaker C:

I think he's bluffing, guys. He's bluffing.

Speaker B:

I think he just turn, turns the guys.

Speaker C:

Hey.

Speaker B:

Hey, Larry. Oh, there, look. He's bluffing.

Speaker C:

He keeps tapping his head. I think he's bluffing.

Speaker B:

The scenes are all really good with that. They don't dive into, like, who all the other people at the table are. They're obviously, they're either just like super rich or probably other people are not really great either. Yeah. Not the chief level bad guys, but yeah, basically you get Bond and Le Chiff and you get lighter. And those are the three guys, the main guys that you learn about from the table. So they don't waste any time, like, telling you about all of them.

Speaker A:

Nope. And that's fine. Didn't you know, like, there was a point where Bond comes back, he's like, let's say we up the blinds. And there's that lady sitting next to him. Like, what about her? She.

Speaker C:

Yeah, she's.

Speaker A:

She's got a small stack. She doesn't want to up the blinds right now.

Speaker C:

That did cross my mind. It's like, it would be funny if these two are so focused on each other that someone just like, blows them out of the water.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

Like, they both lose. It's just like some random guy because, like, I feel like, you know, like, then let's.

Speaker A:

Chief just kills him.

Speaker C:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He goes after the random person.

Speaker A:

He's just like dancing and hooping and hollering. Like those guys when they win the. The World Series of Poker, like, they push it in, they're putting their sunglasses. They're all standing and dancing and stuff like that.

Speaker C:

Stands up, starts doing like a strut around the table, celebrating across the rail

Speaker A:

of the board of the table. Yeah. So the La Chiff villain was very well done.

Speaker C:

I like Le Chiff.

Speaker A:

I. So when the first. They first introduced him with the Ugandan warlords and they gave him all this money and they're like, you know, put it in low risk, whatever. Hold on to this money. He's like, yeah, yeah. And they immediately gamble. So that money, you. You know who this character is instantly, he's a bad guy. He controls a lot of money, and he's willing to gamble every cent that he has, too, because, yeah, it's impossible.

Speaker B:

He steps out of the tent where the. Where he. The guys gave him the money. He just. They put in the truck and he's already on the phone going, all right, I got it.

Speaker A:

Yeah, sell short this airline. I'm going to go blow up the airline. So that way this, the. The stock dives and when bonds. That was a great chase scene too, at the airport.

Speaker C:

Yeah, that was cool.

Speaker A:

It was well done. But I love that little clip. It's like on the little. Were those. Called those carpenters or whatever, carabiners or whatever. A bomb just hanging off of the truck. With one of those, he puts it on his belt. Like, oh, it's on his belt.

Speaker C:

Oh, that was a good twist. That's a reveal. A good review.

Speaker A:

Loved it. Man, there is so much this movie, like, I don't know if disliked anything in this movie. This is a good one.

Speaker B:

So in watching the two that we've previous seen, plus this one, and like I said, I started to watch a couple of the other ones here this week. Another thing I really like about these Bond movies is like, they're. They're almost like a Travel log also, like, they show you like just some fantastic looking places.

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah, yeah. You got the. In this one.

Speaker B:

B's Montenegro, where Casino Royale is like, I was like, man, I'd love to go hang out there.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

All that just looks absolutely amazing. They show you like just really, really great shots of it. I'm like, man, this is this kind of life I would like to have here.

Speaker A:

I'd like to go the life of

Speaker B:

an international spy now without the spy part. Yeah, I just want to go sail up and down the.

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah, sure.

Speaker C:

I want to be post. I want to be post spy life.

Speaker A:

Yeah, yeah. Like I just sent in your resignation letter and you have 150 million in the bank.

Speaker C:

Yeah, yeah, that, that level. Yeah. I forgot to return it and it's mine.

Speaker B:

Oopsie.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I would love that life too.

Speaker C:

This Bond movie gets like plus two extra points just because there's no skiing at all.

Speaker A:

There's no skiing.

Speaker B:

Yeah. I also like the fact that this is like a. Unlike some of the other ones that like, are, you know, a little bit crazier. This is like, this seems like just a very like, realistic plot too. Like, oh yeah, the guy wants. The guy's trying to get some more money, so he's going to try and win this giant poker.

Speaker A:

He's financing terrorists to control the stock

Speaker B:

market in a way and also apparently feeding his addiction to gamble.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And it, like, it's really, it, it's kind of like, it does remind me a bit of like, like the Christopher Nolan Batman movies are like really just. You don't have any, like, really, you know, there's no really way out there villain type thing in those things. It's very like, oh, this is like a realistic Batman. This is the same thing going on here.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And. And I like it. Yeah. Yeah. This, this movie's really fantastic.

Speaker A:

Yeah. Agreed. Was pleasantly surprised and then blown away by how much I enjoyed it. Unfortunately, both of the female characters, other outside of M both perished in this movie.

Speaker C:

That is true.

Speaker A:

It's like, God, can. Can you not murder all the women? That'd be great too, you know.

Speaker C:

Yes, that would be nice.

Speaker A:

No, I said I didn't think. I didn't like anything in this movie. There's one moment I didn't like at the very end where Bond is upset, clearly. Right. And then he goes, well, the is dead. It's like, you didn't have to say that.

Speaker C:

I. I kind of like that. He's like, that's like a force. It felt forced. Right.

Speaker A:

It was very forced. You know what? You're right, Terry. It's part of the story.

Speaker C:

It's like his character, he's trying to, like, close off, again, his walls.

Speaker A:

Like, she mentions that, like, you know, you put up your barriers or whatever. It's like, I don't have any. That was him putting the barrier back.

Speaker C:

I think that's what he was doing. Because it's not supposed to feel right. Yeah.

Speaker B:

They could have worded it a little different, differently.

Speaker A:

And M. Immediately corrects him, like, listen, dude.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Do you ever. Do you ever consider the fact that you're alive because she was willing to. Which is the only reason he is alive, because he was getting his nuts

Speaker C:

wrecked by a. Oh, we needed.

Speaker A:

Holy.

Speaker B:

Do we need to talk about that?

Speaker C:

We need to talk about that, man.

Speaker A:

And it also shows you what level of psychopathy kind of is to be.

Speaker C:

Yes. Right?

Speaker B:

He's cracking jokes. He's like, oh, the whole world's gonna know you just scratched my nuts.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

Cracking jokes while I was getting his nuts cracked.

Speaker A:

There's no way. Oh, God. Like, just the thought of what was gonna happen.

Speaker C:

Yeah. Mads Mickelson walks, like, that big rope thing, and he starts talking like he's about to do something. Like, you know what? We're cool. Let's just. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker A:

Hold on. I'll give you the passcode right now. It's really.

Speaker C:

You know, you have to, like, threat. You probably just have to, like, say something mean to me. All right, fine.

Speaker B:

Here. Yeah, I also like that, like, you know, instead of, like, giving, like, some big, full out, like, you know, Bond villain, like, you know, layout type thing.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

He. He sits there and he breaks down about.

Speaker A:

He goes.

Speaker B:

I don't know why people spend the time doing all this Tor.

Speaker C:

I like that. Yeah. He's like. It's easy.

Speaker B:

Do this one thing.

Speaker A:

Yep.

Speaker C:

You know, he does it a lot because that guy cuts the chair immediately. They don't even discuss it.

Speaker A:

He's like, all right.

Speaker C:

You know, he.

Speaker B:

And he. He doesn't. And he doesn't miss with any of those swings either. He knows exactly how hard to swing it and, like, how far it has to. The rope has to be loosened.

Speaker A:

Plan. Yes. All right, Bos, did we do it? Did we get through casino royale from 2006? 5.

Speaker C:

What year was it? 6.

Speaker A:

2006. Thanksgiving. 06.

Speaker C:

Happy Thanksgiving. Hope you're. Never mind.

Speaker A:

Chestnuts.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

I was gonna say something nuts, but it's like.

Speaker A:

Yeah, you get that. Like, the stuffing with the chestnuts in it. That's Good stuff right there.

Speaker C:

Mashed cranberries, Mashed.

Speaker A:

Rope. Mashed berries.

Speaker C:

Rope, mashed.

Speaker A:

How'd you get these cranberries so smooth and creamy? Grandma tied up a giant rope that I used to, like, you know, anchor a boat, and I swung it.

Speaker C:

I have a lot of practice swinging this thing. Retired lefo or whatever his name is. Yeah. He's like, at Thanksgiving, family Thanksgiving, he's smashing the cranberries with that same rope. Same rope he's used on him.

Speaker A:

It's like the baking shows when you see him see people, like, smashing bread dough against the counter and stuff. Yes, it's like that, but with a rope on.

Speaker C:

Cramping.

Speaker A:

It's the most inefficient way to do it, because I imagine you do that, you lose, like, 90 of the berry every time.

Speaker C:

Oh, it goes everywhere.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker C:

Yeah, well, you gotta get, like, a tarp and then, you know, like a little squeegee to, like, push it all back down.

Speaker A:

And I'm just picturing the Great British Bake off tint with cranberries all over it for some reason.

Speaker C:

God, there's like. Yeah, there's one.

Speaker A:

And not the band. Cranberries.

Speaker C:

Yeah. But no, the fruit. There's one, like, guy that everybody else is normal chefs, but there's one guy who just uses the rope for everything. And they're like, you don't have to go tenderize the meat. He pulls out the rope and starts smacking a steak.

Speaker B:

Everything.

Speaker A:

Everything.

Speaker B:

Gallagher used a sledgehammer with watermelons for this. You use the.

Speaker A:

The sheaf with the rope.

Speaker B:

Yeah, the sheaf. Not with.

Speaker A:

You go to the sheep show. You're like. If you're in the first three rows, Splash zone. And then here comes the chair with the seat cut out.

Speaker C:

Oh, God. You sit in the front row. You notice that the seats all have emp.

Speaker B:

Yeah, that's the first row.

Speaker C:

Is that I sitting up there just

Speaker A:

smashing testes on stage?

Speaker B:

It's a whole different version of the Splash Zone.

Speaker C:

I'm not paying to watch that one.

Speaker A:

All right, what do we think?

Speaker C:

Moving on.

Speaker B:

Solid movie, right?

Speaker A:

A very solid.

Speaker B:

Solid a. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker C:

I like it. It's good. Definitely one of the best James Bond movies I've seen. And I think it does a good job of exploring his characters we've never seen before. And it's like, I like the dark and gritty kind of take on it. Realistic.

Speaker A:

Yeah. Really enjoy this movie. I'm with Keith. Best Bond movie I've ever seen. I haven't seen them all. It's definitely the best of three that we watched this, this go around and I'm like I said, I can't remember the other Bond movies I've seen, so I don't know. But this is like, yeah, top tier. All right, well, we know what we thought. What did the Internet have to say? Well, on November 24th of 2006, fresh from the theater, Rebecca Martin had this to say. Bond at his best. From start to finish. This is an excellent movie. I'm a big Bond fan and this is just the best. Daniel Craig is brilliant as the new James Bond. Well acted. He looked totally confident and fitted the role perfectly. Deserves 11 out of 10.

Speaker C:

Wow.

Speaker A:

Definitely a movie to see again and again. I was gripped, intrigued, totally taken in by it storyline. Totally believable and well acted. Perhaps the 12A rating is a bit lenient. I guess she's foreign. Foreign. She's a foreigner. 12A sounds English. Possibly 12 adult. I don't know. I think probably a 15 would be more appropriate. Yeah. For the nutcracken scene.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

That's a little mature.

Speaker A:

It seems more mature than a 12.

Speaker C:

Only adults should be able to see the Nutcracker scene.

Speaker B:

Yes, yes. All adults should go see the Nutcracker.

Speaker C:

Yeah. This is not the Nutcracker. I thought I was going to.

Speaker B:

No, no. Well, that's.

Speaker A:

It's holiday time too.

Speaker C:

Oh, this is a good Christmas movie.

Speaker A:

I agree. Some scenes, although integral to the film, were quite harrowing. Agreed. I will certainly be getting this on DVD as soon as it's out. All in all, a well deserved 10 out of 10 for the film. And Daniel Craig one found it helpful. What? Not so much.

Speaker C:

Okay, good review.

Speaker A:

Something I forgot to mention. Daniel. I don't know if this is natural or if they put contact lenses in them.

Speaker C:

Oh, his eyes.

Speaker A:

Eyes are intensely blue. He's like a Fremen. They're so blue.

Speaker C:

Yeah, it's almost. I think it's got to be like they color corrected his eyes or something because they are just shining.

Speaker A:

It was intense.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Oh my God. At least on Al Ghalib.

Speaker C:

Yeah, exactly. Has he been drinking up the spices or something?

Speaker A:

It felt like it.

Speaker C:

Yeah. His eyes were. Oh, I think there had to be some. I mean maybe his eyes are like that, I don't know. But I. Feels unnaturally blue.

Speaker A:

It felt unnatural, but it was like. It was intoxicating.

Speaker C:

I couldn't stop looking at those eyes. I know.

Speaker A:

Like. Yeah, those things are blue.

Speaker C:

The only time I stopped was when I just look away from the screen after the nutcracking they were like.

Speaker A:

They're like ocean blue. Or like it was sapphire. It was just like unnatural. They had to be done in post.

Speaker B:

This is a large chunk of the

Speaker A:

budget for like, I would have eye bluing.

Speaker B:

Yep.

Speaker C:

I think we would have noticed, like with all the knives out movies. His eyes are blue. I would have noticed if they were that blue.

Speaker A:

No, I've never seen Daniel Craig movie that I can think of where I've like, man, his eyes are blue.

Speaker C:

They're very blue.

Speaker A:

Yeah. Well, not to be outdone, a Davies hyphen 2 had this to say on November 18th of 2006, fresh out of the theater. Worst Bond film yet. Wow. What a load of rubbish. Okay, this is not Bond, but some mediocre spy story. Bond has always been a family film. No impossible action sequences, no gadgets, no megalomaniac villain, too brutal, too much poker playing, too much looking into her eyes and far too long.

Speaker C:

Wow.

Speaker A:

Bad title sequence, bad music and boring. The only thing to save this is Craig. If he can bring back some of what Bond is about, they can still save it. If not, we will have a spy series a la 24 with some guy called Bond in it.

Speaker C:

I see.

Speaker A:

As an aside to show how it lost the audience, nobody complained about the wags at the front. I don't know, it's in quotes. Wags at the front and they're outspoken witticisms. And most people coming out were being disparaging one for the hardcore Bond fans only, I'm afraid.

Speaker C:

Really? You think it's for the hardcore? Because it sounds to me like you're a hardcore fan and you hate it.

Speaker A:

Yes. 7. 18. Found it helpful. 18, not so much. 1 out of 10.

Speaker C:

Even spread.

Speaker A:

Pretty much even spread.

Speaker C:

I can see what he. What they're saying, though, is like the. It is so different from the other ones.

Speaker A:

It's different than any other Bond we've watched this month. And any that I can remember, it's. It doesn't follow that corny wink at the camera. Formulaic one liner. I'm getting stiff in my back.

Speaker C:

Right. Like, you know, wow, what a family friendly film. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker B:

Friendly as he.

Speaker C:

It's.

Speaker B:

It's different, ladies.

Speaker C:

I could see why you wouldn't like, if you're a fan of that style of Bond. This is not gonna be. This is gonna be a shock to your system.

Speaker A:

I think it like a. Like a. A dunk in a cold pool.

Speaker C:

Like there's rope to the balls.

Speaker A:

Like a rope.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

This movie is a rope to the Balls. For all the traditional bonders.

Speaker C:

Yeah, all those traditional bonders are gonna. They. They're go big wakeup call.

Speaker A:

Yes, they will. Yes, they will. Oh, man.

Speaker C:

I. I see what they're saying. I don't agree, but.

Speaker A:

I don't agree either, but I get it. A Davies hyphen 2. You didn't like it. You went to the theater and you came out upset.

Speaker C:

It's kind of like, you know, this is like Star wars fans with the.

Speaker A:

What does WAGS at the front mean?

Speaker C:

I think that means like people heckling the film. That's what it sounded like.

Speaker B:

I don't know.

Speaker A:

I'm gonna Google that phrase, see if it means anything.

Speaker C:

Oh, he quoted it. So.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

I don't know. Yeah.

Speaker B:

When you're looking it up. I know we sometimes remember to do this, sometimes we don't. But it's. This movie came out today. Popcorn bucket.

Speaker C:

While we're doing this,

Speaker B:

what do you like the popcorn bucket. But it's like, set up to like it. It looks like the chair.

Speaker C:

Yeah, it's a. Popcorn with no bottom. On the bottom.

Speaker A:

I was gonna say a ruptured scrotum.

Speaker C:

Oh, that's what we don't get to see on screen. Yeah. Just like this is what it actually looks like.

Speaker A:

Bruised and ruptured scrotum.

Speaker B:

Popcorn bucket.

Speaker C:

Like, this is like post third whack of the scrotum. Popcorn bucket. You can get each stage. There's like, had like an evolution of the scrotum. This is bond scrotum unwacked. This is one wax grow them. Two wax grow ruptured. Three wax scrotum. This is pre knife scrotum before.

Speaker A:

Oh, God.

Speaker C:

Collectible.

Speaker A:

That makes sense. Maybe a stack of chips.

Speaker C:

That'd be good too, I guess.

Speaker A:

Less offensive, but not as effective.

Speaker C:

I don't think that sells much.

Speaker A:

Do you guys want to know what the a. AI Overview for WAGS at the front is?

Speaker C:

Yes.

Speaker A:

All right, Wags in. In. In quotes. Wives and girlfriends of athletes are increasingly in the spotlight. Frequently appearing in the front row at games, red carpet events, and in fashion focused media. High profile figures like Taylor Swift, Simone, Biles, and Ciara lead the trend blending sports culture with celebrity, fashion and business. As highlighted in reports from front office, sports parade and essence. This is not what he meant. And this is another failure of AI

Speaker C:

I'm guessing it's heckler this guy because he said nobody was complaining about it. If it was something that's usually complained about, it has to be someone yelling at this screen or something. Yeah, I don't know, maybe they're wagging their fingers at the screen.

Speaker A:

Oh my gosh. Literal wagging.

Speaker C:

Yeah. T T, T T Bond. That's inappropriate. Too much violence.

Speaker A:

T T. This is not family friendly.

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker A:

Unlike other Bonds where we see him bone like 15 girls and then make like he doesn't know their names.

Speaker C:

Yeah. And this is what it almost like, you know, like it racist. His like, psychology so you can't understand him, you know? And the other ones are just like, oh, that's just how he is. Okay, fine.

Speaker A:

Those first two kills he has. The first one was really tough and it's like, the second one's easier.

Speaker B:

Oh, God.

Speaker A:

It was. No, it was very well done.

Speaker C:

I like how it was in black and white at the beginning.

Speaker A:

Yeah. Cuz it was like in the past, man. Thought it was great, man. This movie was really. It made me want to watch Bond movies.

Speaker C:

You should.

Speaker A:

I don't know if I will, but I really like the this one. I might watch this one again.

Speaker C:

Should I watch this first then? You'd be more excited about the other two.

Speaker A:

I. I would have been. You're right. Oh, boy. We got to spin that wheel. Boils. And so what we did, we each chose a movie to put on the wheel and then we're gonna spin that wheel and we're watching. But we also have the veto options. We didn't use our vetoes last week, so we each got a veto in the chamber if we want to use it.

Speaker C:

Yes.

Speaker A:

So, Keith, what did you pick for the wheel?

Speaker B:

I think inspired by the Poker Casino Royale, I. I think routers, which we brought up wasn't even the deep dive. I think it just came up.

Speaker A:

Just talking about. Yeah, poker scenes.

Speaker B:

Good movie, that one. Haven't seen that one in a long time. It's good for rewatch.

Speaker A:

Good for rewatch. Terry, what you choose?

Speaker C:

I chose the World is Not Enough

Speaker A:

because God damn it, you want to watch the world.

Speaker C:

I'm gonna watch this. The one I meant to pick and I didn't get it because I said the wrong thing. I'm redeeming myself and that's why I'm picking this time. So we will watch it.

Speaker B:

Derek, you got the audio down for that one clip for when he asks later.

Speaker A:

Yes, I did say it.

Speaker C:

Right, Right. The world is not enough. I'll say that several times. The world is not enough.

Speaker A:

It is on there and that's what I wrote. I am choosing Green Lantern, a movie I swore I would never watch willingly unless I was forced to watch it, like in a Podcast or something like that. And what we're doing, I'm doing it specifically to test the wheel, because everybody's like, oh, the wheel is Derek's little baby. The wheel chooses only for Derek. If the wheel truly loves me, Green Lantern will not come up this week.

Speaker C:

Testing the love of the wheel. How much do you really like me Wheel? Because if you're a real friend, you would never pick Green Lantern.

Speaker A:

It's like a damned if you do, damn if you don't. If it chooses Green Lantern, that means the wheel only chooses things for me or most of the time, but it

Speaker C:

doesn't have the context of, like, your actual feelings. It's only. It's only choosing what it thinks you like, but it has no idea what you really like.

Speaker A:

Yes. But if it chooses Green Lantern,

Speaker B:

if

Speaker A:

it doesn't choose Green Lantern, then it's like, whoa, Derek, I'm sparing you the pain of watching Green Lantern.

Speaker C:

Yeah. And it does understand you, and it's even more proof that it loves you.

Speaker A:

But then I've also primed it for the end of the year.

Speaker C:

Oh, it could pop up again.

Speaker A:

It could pop up again. So we'll see. I'm really testing the limits of the wheel and what you guys feel the wheel is.

Speaker C:

Yep.

Speaker A:

So what I've done is I put our selections on there. I've added a spin again, and I've doubled it up a couple times. So there's like four of each on there. It's still a one in three chance of getting it in our. In our wheel choice, but it just. It fills out the wheel more. It looks nicer. I'm going to spin when you guys tell me to spin, but there it is.

Speaker B:

All right, we're ready.

Speaker C:

Go ahead, Keith, you tell them.

Speaker B:

Click the spin.

Speaker A:

I'm spinning. There it goes. And I feel like it's gonna land on Green Lantern.

Speaker C:

Okay, I'm using my veto.

Speaker A:

You're using your veto.

Speaker C:

Not because I don't necessarily want to watch Greenlander, because I really want to watch the World's Not Enough.

Speaker A:

I'm using Terry's. Using his veto. It landed on Green Lantern, which is remarkable. I can't stop laughing.

Speaker C:

If it lands on Green Lantern again, then that's the real problem. All right.

Speaker A:

Okay, here we go. I'm going to spin again. It's on Green Lantern. We're spinning again. See what happens. Oh, it landed on the World is not Enough. Yes.

Speaker B:

Veto. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

Speaker A:

I almost feel like I need to be though to land on Green Lantern.

Speaker C:

No, let's not test it anymore. It's fine now.

Speaker A:

I got kind of excited at the idea of watching movie I don't want to watch only because the wheel told

Speaker C:

me to just bring it up again on a different episode and you'll have your another chance.

Speaker A:

I don't. I won't ever bring it up again.

Speaker B:

I mean, it'll come up. It'll come up in the end of the year. Yeah, it's officially on the list.

Speaker C:

All right.

Speaker A:

I'm not gonna veto. I'm gonna let. I'm gonna let Terry have his day. We're gonna watch another Bond movie. We're watching four Bond movies this month. Yeah, that's.

Speaker B:

That is the reason I'm not gonna veto it, because it. I think it makes sense that we. That we close it out.

Speaker A:

All right, We're.

Speaker C:

I do regret, like, taking away Derek's vow never to watch it and Green Lantern, but I just need to redeem my pick. I feel like.

Speaker A:

All right, well, we did it. We got through the first three weeks of DTFY2 M2, and it was Bond, and we're finishing up with the fourth Bond, the World is not Enough. The Bond that Terry thought he was going to choose but for some reason

Speaker C:

didn't say was in my head saying it, but out loud. I said, totally different movie. Yeah.

Speaker A:

And we're going to. Right or wrong. We're going to watch the correct Bond movie that Terry.

Speaker C:

I feel like. Yeah. We got thrust into an alternate timeline. The timeline was wrong. If we'd only watched the right movie, I mean, everything would be okay with the world.

Speaker A:

All right, well, I guess that leaves us with nothing to do but to end this the way we win, we win everything. If you take life, do you know what you give?

Speaker B:

I'll tell you won't laugh.

Speaker A:

Like what it is when the storm arrives, would you be.

Speaker C:

See,

Speaker A:

I like this weird, like, flat, graphic people falling stuff later on.

Speaker C:

Yeah, cool. Very stylish.

Speaker A:

It reminded me of. There's a VR game called.

Speaker C:

It's like Bullet time, but every time you're super hot.

Speaker A:

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Episode Theme: Bond

The Fumblers find themselves in a high stakes poker tournament and if we loose our business partners will hunt us down. To help us mellow out during a break we watch Casino Royale. One of us is stuck sitting on a torture chair, and which one of us it is might surprise you.

Casino Royale 2006 - PG-13 - 2h24m

After earning a licence to kill, secret agent James Bond sets out on his first mission as 007. Bond must defeat a private banker funding terrorists in a high-stakes game of poker at Casino Royale, in Montenegro.

  • Director: Martin Campbell
  • Writer: Neal Purvis, Robert Wade, Paul Haggis
  • Stars: Daniel Craig, Eva Green, Judi Dench, Mads Mikkelsen

Thanks for listening to Fumbling Through Film. New episodes drop every Thursday. Got feedback or questions, email us at [email protected]. You can see our Films to Fumble Before You Tumble (Into the Grave) and other musings on Letterboxd at FumbleThruFilm

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