Rom Coms: When Harry Met Sally... (1989)

Gather together from the cosmic breaches of the universe. Here in this great screening room with comfortable recliners are the most powerful forces of good ever assembled. Keith?

So if I was actually drafted, yes, the Odyssey would be number one. But next best available is Mortal Kombat 2.

Terry, you heard me go like. Yeah, that was just my brain, like yellowing.

Derek. Meow. Life, cat. Life cat. Meow, meow. And the Power twins, Zap and Jordan with their magical lemur snort. Dedicated to fumbling their way through movies one forgotten gem at a time. This week we have what she's having with 1989's When Harry Met Sally. This is fumbling through film. Wanna spend the night in a motel? See what I did? I didn't let it lie. Harry. I said I would and then I didn't. Harry. I went the other way. Harry. What? We are just going to be friends. Okay.

Great.

Friends. It's the best thing. You realize, of course, that we could never be friends. Why not? What I'm saying is, and this is not a come on in any way, shape or form is that men and women can't be friends because the sex part always gets in the way. That's not true. I have a number of men friends and there is no sex involved. No, you don't. Yes, I do. No, you don't. Yes, I do. You only think you do. You're saying I'm having sex with these men without my knowledge. No, what I'm saying is they all want to have sex with you. They do not. Do too. They do not. Do too. How do you know? Because no man can be friends with a woman that he finds attractive. He always wants to have sex with her. So you're saying that a man can be friends with a woman he finds unattractive? No. You pretty much want to nail him too. Hello, welcome to another one of a kind shot of finding brand new episode of Fumbling through Film. The only show that dares dares to bring together three dudes to talk about movies. These however, aren't just any movies.

Thank you.

I agree.

You left me.

I was. I was patiently. I was gonna be a good co host.

Just sitting there in silence. I thought maybe my Internet went down for a minute. Nope. These are the ones we've either missed, overlooked or feel are simply worth revisiting. Therefore. But that definition, it is. I know. I said they're not just a movie. That's just about any movie.

About is the key word in that.

Just about. It's any movie. Okay.

No, we've yet to find the one that's not.

Well, it never will. That's the point.

Every movie we watched has been any movie to this date.

Yeah, yeah, but that's like the. The point of the podcast. We'll never find the movie. That's not it. Because we'll never pick it.

There's some place, there's a Venn diagram

that proves us wrong. Actually, I think Terry may be on to something.

How do you know that? The movie, like, it's just gonna. It's one of those things. We'll never find it because it's like

Schrodinger's cat or whatever.

Right? Exactly. Exactly.

It's either dead or alive. And once it's observed, it's that. It's that what it is. So therefore, every inside the box could be any movie. Yes, but you open the box and therefore it becomes that specific movie. And not just any movie.

And sometimes you want to close the box.

Oh, man, Terry, you're really on to something here.

It's like. Like, you know, like subatomic physics for, like, the particles are observed and they do something, but when they're not observing something else.

Exactly.

Just like that.

Yeah.

I'm glad I could break this down in scientific terms for everybody.

Well, now that you've broken it down to scientific terms, I think I'm done. I don't know if I can do this show anymore.

Yeah, I. I think they may have just made us. You know, we're not. We're not as groundbreaking anymore.

Maybe this is our last movie.

We're more groundbreaking. We're the only scientifically prov.

Ah, there we go. Pulled it back.

Bring the three dudes to observe a movie into any movie and then observe that. Anyway, my name is Derek and I'm a fumbler. Joining me here at our box, where we may be dead cats or alive cats. We just don't know until you observe us. Is the prime minister of fumbling and film, Keith.

Hey, hey, what's up, KG fumbler extraordinaire?

Meow, meow. Live cat life. Then how about our other life? Kitty, kitty. It's Terry, the Dr. Trey of Kansas. Oh, no. Dead cat. Meow meow.

Well, based on Terry's game, it might

have been throwing up or something. I don't know.

I could bring it a puking cat on.

There's nothing worse in the morning than waking up to that sound.

Oh, God. It's always during recordings when she pukes. So.

It's my cats. My cats will puke. Usually in my walkways. The Cats know where I'm going to walk, like down.

Unless you're.

Yeah.

Oh,

there's nothing worse than, like, just like knowing it's there, but, like feeling like you can't do anything because you're in the middle of something.

Yeah, I know. God bless it.

But especially like when you're like, you're ready to go and you're like hustling out the door and it's like the last thing, like the last turn in the house you're gonna make before you go down the stairs to the garage or something.

You, oh, step right in the camp.

Change socks and everything.

I can say this now because I know my wife does not listen to the show.

Oh, no. This is gonna prove whether she does or not.

Sometimes I'll hear an animal vomiting in the middle of the night and I'll go back to sleep and. Because knowing my wife will get up before me. Oh, yeah, I don't want to clean up that mess.

Somebody's gonna deal with this later and

it's not gonna be me. But sometimes you know what happens? She doesn't know it's there and she just walks right past it. Because you know what? It's always in my pathway.

It's inches, inches difference.

The cats know, you know, Those cats know this podcast, this podcast they listen to. The podcast are big on us. So for all you humanies out there, your humanoids, let me break it down for you. So you know what we do here.

Yeah, the cats understand. They don't need the second exponent.

Cats get it. Every week we watch movies. But not just any movie. One of us chooses every month. We choose a theme, a genre, a guiding light, some sort of like pseudo stand up rant masked as a conversation that guides our decisions for. For the month. And this month is a Keith month. So Keith. And this is the first week of this Keith month. So Keith, let us know what it is we're in store for.

Well, we're gonna kick off Rom com month.

Oh, God, I feel so out of my comfort zone with this.

Yeah, I thought we were. I thought, you know, we're picking any movie, but we're really picking things that we really, really seem to dig. And really, I didn't even know this

was a genre of could possibly watch. So just, I just, I don't even know what to do.

We are groundbreaking things here.

It's gonna be a tough one.

I mean, I sit here and I'm like, man, Terry and Derek come up with these convoluted, like, crazy things. I mean, Derek's getting people. Derek's getting people to send him Blu rays. Terry's making PowerPoints. I mean, I gotta come up with something good, but I'm like, you know, I. You know, we're recording. We're recording. Five minutes. I should probably think of something.

This is the first time ever where I think you're lucky we're not recording together in person because I would. I would have open hand slapped you on that one.

Convoluted. Yeah. I've never felt some more offended in my life than just right now.

All right, well, Keith. Keith's given us supposed to mean.

It was supposed to be a bit of a compliment, guys, Okay? I come up with the most basic, like, straight backhand. I really did think after a while, I'm like, man, the things that we started to watch here in DTF2Y2K seemed that they were really falling into our type of movies and not just any movie. So I wanted to make sure that we explore some things that aren't our normal stuff.

Okay.

All right.

You can back your way into your selection however you want to, Keith. Anyway, so this is the first week of DTFY2M5. It's W1. So, Keith, what movie are we watching? This?

Let me. Let me backpedal into this one then, too. We're gonna watch When Harry Met Sally.

You say with your whole chest, man. When Harry Met Sally from. I'm gonna step on a deep dive here from 1989. So now, before we talk about our viewing of When Harry Met Sally from 1989, or before we do a deep dive into When Harry Met Sally from 1989, did any of us have any previous knowledge, history, or experience of When Harry met Sally from 1989?

I've seen bits and pieces. Like, I don't think I ever saw the thing fully all the way through.

I heard of it, but, yeah, I never watched it.

I knew the scene. There's that scene. That is the scene, right? But this came out when I was in eighth grade, but it would not have been a blip on my radar of interest.

Now, Derek. I mean, it does have somebody from Star wars, so it. At least a blip.

It does.

It's got Princess Lee in it.

Spoilers.

God damn it. Sorry, Keith. Yeah, like. Like I said, I never see it. I knew the scene. That's about it.

Yeah.

I think everyone knows that main scene.

They don't say everybody. You know, just because you know it doesn't mean everybody else knows it. There's people out there that have no idea what you're even talking about. Maybe not listen to the show, but I guarantee there's people out there that don't know what we're talking about. And cats and cats can't. Well, cats the musical and the creature are both big fans of vener m sadly.

Oh, they are. Okay. Proven most cats do enjoy this.

Most cats know the scene. Well, Terry, you and I, we got easy. We're an easy street from here on

out, cuz Keith coming forward the rest of the show. Oh, yeah.

Keith is going to take us closer to When Harry met Sally from 1989 than we could have ever dreamed we would get in another patent pending Buer's deep dive.

Okay, okay. Win. Harry Met Sali documention 1989, July 14th

to be, oh, just a mere 10 days after the. The celebration of this country's birth.

Absolutely.

You think they timed it out like that on purpose?

I think so.

So, yeah. Yeah. This movie is millennial cancer in the year of the snake.

Whoa, snake.

It is 1 hour, 35 minutes long.

Not bad. That sounds like a good number for Keith.

That's Keith movie right there. It's probably five minutes too long.

Ten.

Ten.

Yeah. This was twice this weekend that I've had this discussion with my wife for movies that we watched. We're both. I was like, we watched Double Prada and I was like, this is 15 minutes too long. And I watch this and I'm like, you know what? Probably could have shaved 10 more minutes off this and it would have been really tighten it up a little bit more. Anyway, this movie centers around Harry and Sally who have known each other for years at various levels of from acquaintances all the way to best friends. They fear sex would ruin their friendship. This guy. Oscar nom for Nor Efron for best original screenplay in the 1990 Oscars. It had a $16 million budget. Opening weekend. 1.09 million for the opening weekend, ranked 11th overall. Number one was Lethal Weapon 2.

Oh, classic.

Followed by Batman.

Oh.

Followed by Honey I Shrunk the Kids, of course. Yep. A License to Kill was number four. That was brand. That was the brand new movie of the week. And it debuted at number four. Mentioning that one because it was a Bond movie. And number five was the re release of Disney's Peter Pan.

Wow. Of course.

Yeah. I made like 5 million.

How can you compete?

Yeah. And number nine that week was Weekend at Bernie's.

Oh, we've seen that before.

We have. We've discussed that on this very.

We know where that story leads to death.

It leaves Me potentially watching Mannequin because my wife looked that up today and wanted to watch that for some reason. Is that now Interesting, though. So this opened in 775 theaters.

Oh, it's a small release.

Yep. Only movie in the top 10 for, like, especially, like, their opening two weeks, not being a thousand theaters. Second week, though, it jumped all the way to number three. It was only behind Lethal Weapon 2 and Batman at that point.

Yeah.

Everything else just shifted down one. So this, I think it must have got some pretty good reviews or maybe there's a lot of bad weather.

That head, legs, all that kind of stuff, right?

Yeah. Overall, it made $93 million worldwide. Blockbuster, 177, 681 was international.

Okay.

So pretty much all just here.

So the other 92.8 million, all US and Canada. Oh, man.

Yeah. Adjusted for box office, $262.4 million. Not too bad.

Oh, man. Inflation is a.

It never hit number one, but it's. It's stuck around in that, like, three to six range for quite a while.

All right.

This movie was directed by Rob Reiner. This guy is a do it. All right. Does a ton of different stuff. Acting. I remember him from watching all the Family when I was younger.

Yep.

Where he played Meathead.

Yep.

100, 184 episodes. Played Michael Meathead. Stiic was the son in law.

Son in law, yeah. And all in the family. Archie Bunker's daughter married Meathead and they lived with him. Yeah.

Yeah. I think Archie's the only one ever called him Meathead.

Yeah.

He wrote and directed and also was in this is Spinal Tap.

Oh, right.

As Marty Deburghy. He's also in. Well, it's based off the characters. And for Spinal Tap 2, the end continues. But he's also in that as well as the same character. He also did a lot of writing for many award shows, including the 24th, 30th, 53rd, and 65th Primetime Emmy Awards.

Ooh, big league.

But I think most people really, they remember him as a director above all. So in addition to this, he also did things such as Stand By Me.

Oh, yes, yes.

He did the Princess Bride. Classic jump back into the Stephen King game. Because he also did Misery.

Oh, nice. I like that one.

Yep. And he also directed A Few Good Men. I feel like this is where I had a pause because I had to do something, and I didn't write down anything specific about any one of those four movies. Okay.

I don't think you need to Stand By Me. Princess Bride, Misery, and A Few Good Men. You can't handle the truth.

Yeah, I've seen two of those movies pretty recently. Stand by Me, I watched like in the last year, maybe, maybe two years tops. Also same for the Princess Bride. Yeah, I haven't seen Misery in. In a long time and I don't know if I've ever seen A Few Good Men.

Wow.

Yeah, I know the. I know the line, but I don't

know, it's one of a few. Few Tom Cruise movies I like. I think I've mentioned that on this show.

He's in that.

Yeah, yeah, he's the lawyer. Him and Demi Moore in Jack Nicholson. What's his face?

Who? Jack Nicholson.

Well, Jack Nicholson is Colonel Jessup.

Oh, I'm sorry.

The other lawyer is little curly haired guy. What's his name?

Carrot Top.

Yeah, it's a guy.

He was. Unusual Suspects also.

Yep.

I haven't seen it.

You've never seen the Usual Suspects?

I'm jealous, Terry.

Here's the thing is this. We've mentioned the Usual Suspects in a chunk that's going to get edited out because we're like, who is it again? And then it's been like five minutes of looking up this guy's name.

It'll be worth it though, when we figure it out.

No.

Kevin Pollock.

Yeah, that's the guy right there.

Yep. I knew exactly who you're talking about once you said short curly hair guy. Yeah, that's weird. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah. Never seen A Few Good Men. Terry, I am very jealous that you've never seen Usual Suspects.

Never seen it. Never will.

What?

Never will. Wow. Just kidding. Is it because of Kevin Spacy? He's a creep.

Oh, no, I just was saying that just as a joke, so.

But yeah, that's a. Yeah, it's directed by Brian Singer. He's a great.

You know what, Terry? If you never watch it, that's okay.

Well if we do a like Questionable from the Artist.

Questionable filmmakers.

Yeah. Yeah.

Movies featuring sex pests.

That'll be a fun category.

It's a bunch of Jared Leto movies.

Yeah. Actually there was probably a few that could have got picked in this category.

I think the genre has a bit of a sex pesty vibe.

Yeah, it's true.

It's true.

This movie was written by Nora Efron.

Zach's mom?

No.

No relation to Zac Efron? No.

Maybe Grandmother?

Auntie.

You know what?

Auntie Nora.

I'll be honest, didn't even occur to me.

Sister, probably.

Oh, it's spelled different. E, P, H, R, O, N. Is

that P H. Oh.

Zach Efron E F R O N and Nora Efron E P H R O N are not related despite sharing a similar last name. They have no family connection.

I thought maybe Zach Efron changed his last name to Distance, you know, so he wasn't.

Yeah, so he wouldn't be mistaken. Yeah, he was a ride her coattails. Yeah. So he keeps the name, just spells it differently.

I just think. Yeah, he didn't want to be accused of. Yeah, whatever that's called.

Nepotism.

Nepotism. Yeah. So I changed his last name slightly to differentiate.

Just a different spelling of the same last name.

He didn't like commit to it too far, but he did enough to. To question it.

It's a pretty decent show on Netflix. Travel show that he did.

Zach Efron.

Yeah, there's like two seasons of him and this other guy. They go around different places in the planet and they're looking for like places that like are good for the planet, like do like good climate stuff and things like that. And it, it's actually a pretty, pretty cool show.

Is it like reality TV or like a fictional thing that's a documentary?

Like it's like a documentary series. Him and this other guy go around to actual places.

Okay, that's kind of nice.

I don't know if this is true or not because it's the AO review, but do you know what Zac Efron's mom's name is? And I'm not one to talk about last names, but her last name. Her name is Starla Basket.

Basket's her last name?

Yes.

Wow.

What a name.

I agree. What a name.

Ms. Basket. All right, that's pretty cool.

Yeah. But we're not talking about Ms. Basket. We're talking about Nora Ephron. No relations, Zach. But she is a three time Academy award nominee.

Zach wishes he was related.

I know.

Yep. She was nominated for the one that we already mentioned that we're watching. It's also Silkwood and Sleepless in Seattle.

Oh, no, not that.

Yeah, she directed Silkwood or I'm not. No, she didn't direct. So she directed Sleepless in Seattle as well.

Is that a real goodness. Yes, it is.

Yeah. So she wrote. In 1990, she wrote a movie called My Blue Heaven.

Oh, I like that movie with what's his name?

Steve Martin.

Martin.

Rick Moranis and Joan Cusack. And all too uptight FBI agent. Must protect a larger than life mobster with a heart of gold. Currently under witness protection in the burbs.

I liked that. Movie when I saw it as a kid.

Efron also rewrote a script for all the President's men in the mid-70s, along with her then husband, Carl Bernstein.

Okay.

Of Woodward and Bernstein.

Of who? The movie all the President's Men is about. Yes.

Wow.

Really?

Yeah, the script. That script version was not used, but it was seen by someone who then offered her her first screenwriting job for television movie. And she began her career screenwriting after that. Also, she went to Beverly Hills High School, same school that had Angelina Jolie, Nicholas Cage, Lenny Kravitz, Gina Gershon, Richard Dreyfus, Jonathan Silverman, and David Schwimmer as some other famous.

What a class.

Yes.

That's not all the same class, just alumni.

She's the daughter of screenwriters Henry and Phoebe Efron. So I don't want to scream nepotism, but you know. Oh, it's there.

I wouldn't dare.

No. But good for her that she did stuff. But I mean, she did have a leg up, as most of those people in Hollywood do.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, if my parents were screenwriters, I would love it if they got me a job.

Yeah. If your parents were screenwriters, you would probably already have Hollywood connections.

Yes.

We would already be on basic Honda 4 at this time.

That's right.

Forward is much easier when your parents have inroads.

That's right. Let me just text up my parents good old friend Steven Spielberg and tell him my idea.

Exactly.

That's a Conda 4. That search for the blood diamond.

Speaking of Steven Spielberg, have you guys seen the trailer for his new movie, Disclosure Day?

Yeah.

Yeah, but he looks interesting.

I don't know if I'm kind of excited. I'm excited because I mentioned Kansas City, but that's the only thing.

Yeah, I'm. I'm not 100 sold on. I watched the trailer. I was like, okay. I mean, learn more about it as we go.

I'll probably see it eventually if it gets good. Really good reviews. Yeah, I'll be like, maybe I gotta see this. I don't know. But like right now I have no interest.

Yeah, it's not on my. It's on my big board right now.

So you have a big board?

Yeah, Movie, big board.

Sure you do. What's number one on it right now? I'm curious.

Oh, yeah, let's hear.

Well, Mortal Kombat 2, because that's what.

That's number one.

What's the next thing coming out?

Come on.

I mean, my big board isn't like a. Like A deep draft board type thing. It's, it's a based on you're looking

forward to is Mortal Kombat 2.

Okay. Well, only because it's the next movie come out. It comes out next weekend. So the. The Odyssey. The Odyssey is number one on my list.

Oh, yeah, that looks good.

The Odyssey and then Spider Man. Brand new day.

Okay,

that trailer looks amazing.

Which one?

Oh, A Street Fighter.

Oh, I'm excited for sure.

Clayface looks clay face.

Trailer looked cool. Yeah, that's October.

Supergirl looks awesome.

Yeah.

Yeah. But okay, so three is my number

one on my big board right now.

Yep. Nope, not me. Be careless.

What?

I'm so past those movies.

Yeah, Keith is a heretic. That's all right.

I, I, There's. I'm bored of sand. I don't know.

You're bored of sand?

I got really bored in the last one.

Wow, Terry, you summarized my opinion perfectly.

No, no, I know, I know. I'm an outlier. I'm an outlier.

What about the giant worms?

Those are awesome. Those are awesome. So, Terry, I don't. I know you're not as. You're not as big in the sports stuff, but like, so, yeah, so if I drafting. Yes, the Odyssey would be number one. But next best available is Mortal Kombat 2 because it's the next movie coming.

I can't believe that's second place.

You think that Mortal Kombat 2. So if we were drafting. I want, I want to, I want

to watch it because it's the next movie. It's the next new movie coming out that I want to see.

Okay, but if we're drafting and you have the number two pick and Terry takes the Odyssey number one.

Oh, no.

You're going Mortal Kombat. No. Because it comes out next.

No, when you asked me before, but I threw it out there because it's the next movie coming.

Oh, see, I thought the big board was like.

Yes, I readjusted, readjusted.

This is your concept you threw out there? I guess I'm.

Yep.

I'm redefining it a bit, but nope.

I have more movies that I'm probably questionable about than movies I'm excited about.

So any anyway, Keith, who's in this movie?

Well, he didn't go to Beverly Hills High School, but Billy Crystal is in this movie.

Okay, nice.

Yeah. I was just looking through the different trivia and facts about Mr. Crystal. It said he had nickname him at one point in time was Face. Didn't give me a reason for it. Just his nickname was Face.

Face.

I don't believe that. And I said, I believe anything. I can't believe that.

Yeah.

Face.

Why would he be called Face?

I. I don't know. Just said. Had the nickname Face.

Okay. I wonder if he, like, had a horrible scar on his face at one point.

Who knows? But what I do know is that he was either a winner or a nominee for the Emmys for hosting the Oscars for the. The first of all, the 29th, 30th and 31st Grammys. And then he's 63rd, 64th, 65th, 69th, 70th, 72nd, 76th, and 84th Academy Awards.

Oh, wow.

For all of those. He was then nominated for a different

award show for an Emmy. Yes.

Yeah. I found. I don't know.

He host the Emmys when he. No, probably not.

I think he's host the Emmys once, but not when he. Not when he won. He attended Marshall University in Huntington, West Virginia.

Marshall's based upon.

No, he's not. No.

Okay.

No, that's the plane crash that kills, like, half the team. He is. We are. We are. Marshall. The football team was flying to a game, Their plane crashed, and, like, two thirds or something of the team got killed. It's about. It's about them all coming together, like, the year after.

Dang.

I'm gonna. Sounds intense.

He did go there.

I didn't know that was about. I thought it was about the football team. I didn't realize that.

Well, yeah, it's. It's. It's about the football team coming back together.

Yeah, I realized. But I didn't realize what had happened in.

After a Horrible Tragedy.

Yeah, it's a very good movie.

Okay.

Oh, with Matthew McConaughey.

Yep. But the. But he was there to play baseball. He's on baseball scholarship.

Nice.

He was on a baseball scholarship. I watched him in the cages in this movie, and I was like, he

looked like he was doing.

He's lunging at every pitch.

Well, he went there. But on his arrival, he was told that freshman baseball was canceled due to budget cuts.

Due to him.

So he was so bad. Put his, you know, tail between his legs, ran back to New York, become an actor.

Wow. It's either baseball or acting. Gotta pick.

That's all he had. And based upon his swing in this movie, it's a good choice. He made the wise decision.

He was cast as Rob Reiner's best friend in an episode of all in the family in 1971.

Okay.

Wow. And they have become best friends.

So Rob Reiner was meathead who was Billy Crystal?

I forget what his name was, but he was in there just for one beat.

Head in face.

Yeah. The scenes in this movie where they're talking on the telephone late at night while watching on respective television sets channel surfing was actually something that Billy Crystal and Rob Reiner used to do every night.

Oh, that's nice.

Yeah. After being on that one episode there, he did audition to play the role of Jack Tripper on Three's Company.

Wow.

It was a character of a straight man impersonating a gay man. And then ironically went on to play the role of Jody Dallas on Soap, the first openly gay character on primetime network television.

Wow.

And I do believe. Well, we've obviously we mentioned Three's Company on the show before and we've also mentioned Soap.

We've mentioned. I've mentioned Soap before.

Yeah. Yep. Look, he's been a lot, a lot of great stuff. You know Miss Miracle Max in the Princess Bride? You know him as Mitch Robbins in City Slickers and City Slickers 2. The Legend of Curly is gold. He's Mike Wazowski in the Monsters Inc. Franchise.

Yeah.

Yep.

That's more my speed.

Yep. He was in a movie called Sammy. He played a guy named Sammy in a movie called My Giant where he plays a Hollywood agent who stumbled upon Max, a giant living in Romania, and tries to get him in the movies. Giant was played by one time NBA big man, George Mirasan.

George Mirasan. I know. I'm picking for the wheel.

Oh, great.

This is Terry. This is a movie that's supposed to be historically terrible.

Oh, no.

Yeah.

George Mirasad is much maligned. My Giant. Oh my goodness.

I mean, it sounds like such a great premise.

In 1986 though, Billy Crystal was in a movie called Running Scared. Two street wise Chicago cops have to shake off some rust after returning from Key west vacation to pursue a drug dealer who nearly killed them in the past. Co starred Gregory Hines. This movie is kind of forever. Kind of stuck on my. Hey, I need to rewatch that list because I remember liking it. I remember seeing it not when it first came out when I was like 10 or 11, but like I saw at some point in time like on HBO or something like that. I remember liking it in. In the past. I thought it was actually supposed to be a really good movie.

This is one of those movies where I'm like, I get it confused with another movie and I don't anymore. But I used to. And that movie was Midnight Express.

Yes. Oh, yeah.

I used to get these two like jumbled in My brain

speaking. People get things jumbled in the brain. Meg Ryan.

What does that mean? Meg Ryan's lawyers are on the phone. Keith.

Well, now Keith doesn't speak for all of us here on the podcast, just to be clear. In this movie, I think her brains are perfectly none.

Yeah, well, look, I mean, she's been in a lot of roles out there. One. One key role, though, is she's the mother of Jack Quaid.

That's like her motherhood.

Yep.

I mean, that's nice.

Oh, Keith.

Yes.

I need to put it like a disclaimer before this episode.

You know what? You know what I didn't realize, though? I mean, she's the ex wife of Dennis Quaid, but that also makes it the ex sister in law of Randy Quaid. I don't think I knew that Dennis Quaid and Randy Quaid were related.

Yeah, Randy Quaid's a miss.

I just didn't. I. I guess I didn't realize that they were related. Did you guys know that Anthony Perkins and Osgood Perkins.

Yes.

Are related?

I did not know that either.

I don't know who those people.

Anthony Perkins is the guy. Anthony Perkins, Psycho.

Oh, okay. And who.

Osgood Perkins, who did Long Legs and the Monkey and.

Oh, the director.

Yeah, Yeah. I just. I just stumbled upon that today, actually.

Anthony Perkins was Norman Bates, right? Yes.

Yes.

Okay. Yeah.

Oh, Meg Ryan has an asteroid named after.

Oh, really?

Okay. 8353. Meg Ryan.

Never mind. I know what's going on the wheel now.

The asteroid.

Yeah.

Yep.

We're just gonna pull out a telescope and watch it as it floats by.

I think we previously mentioned movie back when we're doing Dreamscape. I think I also mentioned the movie Inner Space.

Huh.

And she was in that. That's where she met Dennis Quaid.

Oh, okay.

She kicked Anthony Edwards to the curb and started dating Dennis Quay at that point.

She was dating Anthony Edwards.

Yeah, because they met on Top Gun.

Yeah, she was on Top Gun.

She was a Top Gun.

She's his. She's like his girlfriend slash wife or whatever in Top Gun.

Really? I had no idea. Yeah. Anthony Edwards from er and he's Goose.

Yep, that's why. And he's also from Revenge Nerds.

Oh, that's. Speaking of problematic rom coms.

I don't think that's a rom com.

I think the whole premise of that movie is nerd getting falling in love with girl.

Oh, true. That's more common. Maybe.

There's a lot of romance in that film. I think there's a lot of another different R word quotation on romance, perhaps? Yeah.

McBride is known for being a lot of movies with Tom Hanks, such as Sleepless and Shell, where she plays Annie Reed. She plays Kathleen Kelly and you've Got Mail.

Oh, boy.

And then she plays Dee Dee slash Angelica slash Patricia in Joe vs. The Volcano.

Oh, Jovi. Volcano.

I think there's something else similar that came out at that time, too, that I think I get this confused because I think that I. I don't know if this one's actually supposed to be good or not.

Wait, no, it's not. We brought this up. And I think I get it confused with that swashbuckling movie that you brought up.

Oh, that pirate thing?

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Several months ago with the Mensa lady. I can't remember what her name is from Beetlejuice.

Gina Davis.

Gina Davis, Yeah. She's in that swashbucklegging movie. And I confused it with Joe versus Volcano because I confuse things quite a bit.

I've heard Joe Wash the Volcano is

good, but you've heard that.

I've heard that.

I remember it being supposed to be bad. I've never seen it, but who knows?

Maybe I think maybe I get confused with Congo. Maybe. I don't know.

Congo.

Congo is very bad.

Yeah. There's another volcano movie of some sort that can't. I. There's something else.

And Volcano and Joe versus the Volcano.

I don't. I honestly, I don't remember what it is, but there's something. I always think I confused that movie with Ranger.

Turn of the King, maybe. Yeah, A volcano.

One thing I don't confuse it with, though, is in 1994, she's a movie called IQ, where IQ, but mechanic, romances the mathematician niece of physicist Albert Einstein with help from him and his friends.

Rom com with Albert Einstein.

Yeah. And it's got. What's his face in it. Used to be married to Susan Sarandon.

Tim Robbins.

Tim Robbins, yeah. From Shawshank Redemption fame.

Or from Bull Durham. Bull Durham fame, yeah.

Another rom com.

Wow.

The movie also stars Walter Matthew as Einstein.

Walter Math House.

That's what I said.

Wrote that beautiful Bean footage, I guarantee you.

Did I say Matthew?

Yes.

All right, well, Walter Math out anyway. And the last interesting fact that I

have about McRyan, Keith goes right, right, right to the gaslight Matho. That's why I said. No, it's not. Yes, it is. You're crazy. Okay.

She was originally offered the role of Clarice in Silence of Lambs.

Oh, wow.

To me, that seems like A very weird. Like, I don't see that movie being as good.

I bet you it would have been just as good. But Jodie Foster was amazing, that movie.

Yeah.

The age difference. Billy Crystal's 40 when this is being filmed. And May Ryan's 2713. Yeah, no, she's 2740.

13 years. You just did the math on the fly.

I know. Yeah.

Power of. That's my. My.

Yeah.

The power of my mind.

I'm just so powerful.

All right.

A bunch of ticker tape out of his mouth like an old computer.

Yeah. It did take me about 10 seconds to really, like, process.

He's got a punch card in his back of his head.

You heard me go, like. Yeah, that was just my brain, like, downloading.

All right, a couple last quick little factoids here about this movie. It is one of the 1001 film. See before you die. Hot dog as Ed by.

We haven't talked about that in a minute because we really haven't watched anything that's been that good. Maybe Killer. Killer might have been on there, but

I feel like there's at least one other movie.

The segments of married couples telling the stories of how they met are real stories that director Rob Reiner collected for the film. Then he hired actors to.

That was my. That was my big question from this movie. Were those dramatizations?

Yes.

Yeah, but they are.

But they are actual, like, full stories of the real stories, but they're told by not real people.

I'll tell you what, they got some actors that looked like normal blokes.

Yeah, they did.

Yeah, just some old people.

They did really good casting of these.

Really good casting of normal old folks. Hot dog.

Nice.

That's twice now. Damn it.

Hot dog. Hot diggity.

One more time.

Oh, no, no, no, no, don't. Yeah, don't do that.

No, we get three hot dogs and hot dog appears.

Hot dog man appears.

Yeah. No. And you don't want him to show up. Hope you're hungry if he does. I won't leave until you eat every bite of me.

Yeah. Oh, God, it's an actual hot dog. Consume me then.

He's a man sized hot dog and

he just doesn't leave really fast. Offer you himself as dinner?

Well, you don't have to email at once, but he just won't leave. So, yeah, he'll just be like, chilling, like in your bath. He'll like peer behind you in the bathroom mirror and then like, say, all right, well, I'm just gonna stay in here now and then.

Yeah. Oh, my God. If he's a man sized hot dog, you can't eat that in one sitting. No, it's tough to like reheat hot dogs.

I had a Costco hot dog today that's not even. Can't do that in one sitting either. I mean, that's big hot dog.

Yeah. But like hot dogs are already cooked, right. So when you cook them, you're reheating them essentially. And then to like, to reheat a re hot dog, like there's a lot going on there and it's like he

doesn't, he, he doesn't have any preservatives, so he will go bad.

Yeah. He's an all beef frank though. Does he feel it when you eat him?

He likes it.

Does he give you.

He likes it.

Yeah. Does it give you encouragement as you're.

Yeah, he really, he gets into it. Yeah. Come on. You got this, buddy. Oh, yeah. Eat my foot. Yeah, I think you would eat.

You would go head first on him though.

Get the mouth up.

Just get the like, whatever the sentient part of the hot dog.

It's still got a bun though, right?

No, you have to call bun man in

bun, bun bun. And then the man sized hot dog bun appears.

I won't leave until you eat all of me.

Well, it's a good thing you guys are together.

But the thing about the hot, the hot dog bun man is his head's at the bottom. So you either have to flip them up, they have to like 69 while you eat them. There's just too much going on with this.

Yeah.

Dystopian existence I don't want to be part of.

Yeah. I think I would just eat them until I burst. It's better that way.

That's. That's his. That's the way that he keeps on living. That's how he kills people.

Yes.

So you eat them and then when you explode and burst, you're spreading hot dog spores across the land.

Yeah.

And more hot dog man sized hot dogs grow from those spores.

Hot dog man juniors are running around.

Yeah. It's like the weird Johnny Appleseed sort of.

They're all just like, eat me, eat me as they're running around.

Hot dog trees growing everywhere.

Yeah. I don't know if I can deal with that. I would take out the head first and then cut up the rest and give it to neighborhood dogs. Well, it's all right. It's already a hot dog band that's wanting to be eaten. There's no barbarianism.

Don't you feel responsible to Just eat them yourself. Like it's kind of your thing.

But he knows. He knows you can't do it, and that's how he ends up. You know, people find. People find you. You know, they find people just kind of like, collapsed in their bathroom. Their guts exploded because they were trying to eat all of them. He's just waiting for. He's waiting for the next person to say. Hot dog. Hot dog. Hot dog in the mirror again. Oh, God. And then he lures them in, and then they have to call the hot dog bun guy. It's. It's.

There's going on.

Yeah, it sound. It sounds. It's a horror movie that. That's writing itself.

Yeah. I like this idea. I mean, it's horrific, but also kind of fun.

So this is what. This is DTF Y2 month five. Is that what I said? It is week one. So that means 13 plus four is 17 times four is 64.

Movie podcast.

So this is the 69th we've watched. This is the first movie I was able to get my wife to watch.

She didn't want to watch any others?

No. And after I explained the premise of relax her to her, she was like, no, I don't think so.

Really?

It didn't draw her in?

No, it did not. But this is the first one I was able to get her to watch with me.

Yeah. So I. I had mentioned that we're gonna be watching this. I told my wife, and she's like, oh, I've never seen it before. And then today, I was getting ready to just kind of watch it on my own. I was down the basement. Just do stuff down there and watch it while I was down there. And she's like, hey, I'll be done. She's doing some painting. She's like, hey, I'll be done in just a second. Do you want to watch. Do you want to watch When Harry Met Sally next? I'm like, I. You actually did want to watch it. Okay, sure.

Yeah. Yeah.

So she watched it with me as well.

I'd never seen it. My wife had never seen it. Keith had never seen it. His wife had never seen it, I assume. I don't know.

Yes. No, she's never seen it before.

What. What week of movies? Keith, you have brought together the theme that saved my marriage.

You're bringing families together.

You're bringing families together. Is that what rom coms are all about?

Anyway, I watched it with my imaginary wife. Me too.

And my wife, My real wife and my imaginary wife really are bringing her back together.

Yeah.

Well, what? Well, how did it go for you guys? I thought it was all right.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's pretty good.

So, I mean, when we got done watching it and I, you know, because I asked her, I was like, what'd you think? She's like, ah, all right. She's like, she's like, I don't think I'll ever watch it again. And I kind of had the same, the same vibe for it. Like, I, like, I like. No, I don't think it's not a movie that is gonna just jump back into the queue. Oh, and, and, and rotate through any. Anytime soon. But I, I think it's considered like one of the like, more like classic rom coms. And I think it, it, it's right there. I mean, it does a lot of really good stuff to it. It's well written. There's. I think there's only one scene, the whole thing where I was kind of like, eh. But then I thought maybe it's a scene where like, she's crying because she found out that her ex had gotten married. Somebody was going to be getting married. And. But I think she's just going way over the top on purpose with the crying, I think, because I, because it was like. Because not even me, but like, also my wife was like, man, this is bad acting. But I was like, well, I think she's kind of leaning into that part, like, to be like, overly over the top with it.

What her character was. Her character was like kind of like this quirky, I don't know, like, idiosyncratic character that did weird things to begin with.

Yeah, I feel like that was the first, like, I think they make comments start to film that she never really, like, seems like anything affects her.

No, nothing affects her. Right. And that was the first time something actually affected her. So it's the first time you saw her be emotional.

You know, I think for the most part, like, when those two are together on, on the screen, like, there's good chemistry throughout the whole thing. This is, this is Billy Crystal and like, kind of like Peak Prime Billy Crystal run here. You know, you see why he was considered like a really good actor. And you know, so I think, you know, I think the hosting stuff he does, I guess, is probably his better suit for things, but, like, he's actually really good in this. I think he does a really good job, especially as they advance on to like, being slightly, you know, his slightly older version of this character. And then for the first one that you find when you first meet him, he's he's an.

He's an this entire movie.

Well, so in the first one, in the first version that you meet him, he's just young guy. You kind of expect. It's the second time that. That she runs into him at the airport that I kind of found him to be like, super annoying.

Yeah, he's an this entire movie. What I thought was funny is.

But after that, I mean, I don't think he's. I don't think he's awful.

I still found him to be an. But what's funny is this movie takes start since 1977 and goes to 1989. Right. Or to modern time. Or to the movies. Modern times. So over 10 years. And you mentioned that he was 40 when he filmed this. My wife, we were watching it goes, oh, they made him look a lot younger. I'm like, he looks like he's 40.

Yeah, he did not look that young at the beginning.

Yeah, he looked 40 in 1977. He looked 40 in 1989.

Like, when he shaves his beard off, he looks exactly the same. Yeah, yeah.

Same age, same person. They gave him a different haircut. She looked remarkably younger due to hairstyle and makeup and stuff like that. But she. She has it. Well, she was incredibly young to begin with, comparatively speaking.

Billy Crystal, he should have really grown ass hair for me as young, like, had a really long hair.

Oh, God, yeah.

Started as the movie went on.

The thing. The whole thing, though, starts off with like, they're gonna take this long trip from Chicago to New York. And she's never met the guy before. It's just a friend of hers boyfriend, and so he's gonna ride with. That seems like the most insane thing to me.

People hitchhiked out all the time.

I. Yeah, but I mean, like, hitchhike and you drive somebody along like an hour ahead to the next town or that's one thing. This, like, you're gonna lock in for 18 hours to drive with somebody you don't know.

It's not completely random. He kind of knows him.

Yeah, she's. But that's like the first time I think she's met him.

Yeah, it's the first time they met. But they know each other through the common still, which is.

I would not want to. I would not. I barely would want to drive 18 hours to people I knew.

Yeah, I understand.

Hours with somebody I didn't know.

I understand that as well.

Leaving them at a gas station someplace.

Well, then your life would not be the good premise for Rom Com.

Oh, well, I mean, it could be. That could be interesting take.

It could be an interesting thing. You leave them on the side of the road after an hour.

No, I love him at a gas station. I'm not gonna leave somebody on the side of the road. If you leave at the gas station, then, you know, like 10.

Just a roadside gas station.

10 years. 10 years later we, you know, reconnect and you're.

That. That left me. Keith is like the Five Easy Pieces ten years later moment.

Oh, yeah, that's. Yeah.

When she's on a vacation in Alaska and she runs into.

That's exactly, you know, be perfect. But everything would be good, though. Oh, you know.

Oh, yeah. I forgive you for leaving me.

You know what? I was. I was horrible. I should have never done that. I'm sorry.

I really find Billy Crystal, not just in this movie. I kind of find him irritating. I don't know what that says about me. He's fine. Right. But when, like, this movie plays out and. And what's weird is it kind of the same time span. It's like. It's like an episode of Seinfeld.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's got a very, very vibe of that. Yeah.

He every. Every conversation he has feels like he's testing out standup material.

Yeah. That every. The weird scene where, like, he's doing. Let's. Let's talk like this the rest of the day. Like, that's like. So I say, like, oh, I would cut, you know, 10 minutes out that scene. I would.

That was one of the more enjoy for me. It was like an endearing scene because when he was not being obnoxious, that was like, finally.

No, I thought he was being. I thought he was kind of being like super obnoxious right there.

See, I thought that was him. That stupid voice down his guard and like being like a person with her and they were friends. Like, that was the most. Not. I. I don't.

For him going on a rant about how we can never be friends or

like, we're going to be goofy like today, this is how we're going to talk. Okay.

I thought.

I thought the point, like after he runs into the. Into his ex wife, you know, like the next like, chunk, I guess, until they end up hooking up together with like. I actually thought he was pretty good there, like when he was actually kind of like not trying to be, like, making jokes all the time, stuff like that.

Because. Because he was like, disassociating with reality.

Yeah. I mean, him having that breakdown, stuff like that. I thought he did a really good job with that.

I like that part. I like the part when he was. Yeah.

I'm saying, like.

No, I think. I think. I think he did a very, like. I thought he did very good acting during that part. As opposed to just doing like these little one off bits throughout the rest of the thing. Sure.

To me, he's just Billy Crystal throughout the whole movie. For me, at least. I don't know.

I thought it was okay. I liked him, but. Yeah, I agree. His character is, like, kind of annoying, but, like, it was kind of like I was waiting for the times when his guard would come down and I felt like it was happening more in the middle of the movie. And then, like, he would, like, win me over, then he'd lose me, you know? Right. Like.

Okay, okay.

Now he's finally just being like a normal guy. And he'd say something like, oh, okay. And then. Yeah, but that's. I don't know. I feel like it's just a weird. I could. I definitely sense the chemistry between the two. I thought, like. I definitely thought they had a good, like, back and forth kind of thing going on. But it's just. He's just a strange guy and I'm not somebody I'd probably ever hang out with myself.

No. I just found to be an asshole. That's like the biggest thing, the biggest takeaway, like, from. It's. It's a very. It feels like a very 90s sort of, like, perspective and just like, approach to being a man sort of thing. Just like ironic. What's. What's it called? Ironic detachment or whatever, where you just kind of. It's like everything's kind of a joke and you've just pushed off and you're just like, just a dick about everything. It's like, okay, great.

If you just are. Yeah. Rude about everything, nothing's ever again.

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Right. It's like nothing matters if you're just an. And like, he clearly has a person that he cares for his entire life. He's like. Even when he didn't like her, he liked her. He, like. There's something about it. Right? It's a very. It's just a very way about doing things. Like. I don't know. I just. I didn't like him as a person. Harry.

I thought their two friends actually were kind of fun. Bruno Kirby.

Yeah.

Who was there, dude, Because Bruno Kirby. I don't know who that is.

That's him. That's his name.

The character.

No, that's the actor who plays.

Oh, okay.

His character's name is Jess.

So I'm like, who is this guy? He sounds familiar. But then I was like, he kind of sounds like a Joe Pesci impersonation. And I couldn't figure out who he was.

I. I kept thinking like, I thought he was more like like a. More of like a Chicago. Like if you have seen him in like a Bears thing doing the stupid SNL skit.

Oh, cuz he had mustache.

Yeah. There's a couple times he's talking. I was. I thought that's kind of where it fit in. But I. I thought they were pretty good together.

I like Carrie Fiser. I liked his Wagon Wheel.

That was funny. He comes.

I actually like the table. But then when he comes walking out, he's like, don't say a thing.

I like that.

Or when, when, like their first. Like when she's talking, she's like, hey, do you mind if I, you know, talk if I, you know, get his number? And she's like, yeah, but just, you know, be easy on Harry today. And Harry's doing the same thing. And then he's like, well, I'm gonna get cab. Okay, I'll go with you. They just take off immediately. Yeah.

I like the way the plot kind of plays out where it's like time jumps. I think that was an interesting cool idea where you see them at different points in their life and it's like how they come back and find each other over and over again. It feels like. And then.

Yeah, it's like.

Yeah, it's interesting to see how they've quote unquote change. I can't feel like Harry hasn't changed that much. But everyone like to the middle. Once he's like had the divorce and stuff. I feel like that's when he finally starts to like feel like he can open up about stuff. I. I just like the way that it kind of the plot progresses. I didn't expect it to be kind of a pictures through time, I guess.

And I kind of like how the. Each like chunk has the preceding little interview.

Yeah.

With some old ass people.

Old ass normal looking people being.

They were very normal looking. And the one Chinese couple, I was like, there's no way that woman's an actor because she had a very. Well, maybe she is an actor because she had a very distinct look to her. But it was, it was almost like the inverse of plain. I don't know how to explain that woman. You know, it's like, you know, like someone looks plain. Yeah, right.

Yeah.

You're like, okay, that's just a plain person.

And she was the opposite of that.

She was the opposite of plain.

Like, very notable.

Her. Yes, but not in an actor sort of way. Right. You know, like, you know, plain people can't be actors, but they're not Hollywood actors.

But you're like watching a movie, you're saying.

You're saying that's the one that you think would be, like, if it wasn't it. That that's the person you thought was not an actor.

I thought that person was a real person. I know she's a real person, but I thought because actors, like, a normal, like, air quote, plain actor is the most beautiful person you'll ever meet in your life.

Right, right.

Like, oh, that person's so plain. This woman was not. She wasn't like, uglier like that, but she was such a. The polar opposite of a Hollywood plane. And I was like, oh, my God, this woman is so, like. I wanted to draw her because she was so, so unique looking. I'm like, who is this woman? Like, I mean, it's like, look her up back on. Like, I don't want.

I'm sure she's dead.

This movie's 30 years old, Terry.

I'm not looking that up.

You might be able to contact her still.

I don't know. Is it. There's the. There's the one couple that the guy's going through, like, all his divorces.

Yeah. That was funny.

And I think at the end, they. He's like. He's. When he's talking, he's like, I'm at a funeral and he's there with somebody.

Yes.

And she's like. And he goes, then we got married again. And. And she chimes in something like, Yep. On the 35th anniversary of our first. Of our first marriage.

Yeah. And I love how she remembers all of his ex wives and he doesn't remember any of them.

Whatever. I can't remember. It was.

It was Roberta, all of those couples. Those were my favorite parts of the movie, those couples, because they felt. I thought they were. I didn't realize that they were actors.

They did a good job because I genuinely thought he just picked up random old people and said, tell me your love story.

Yeah, I thought that's what it was.

I was.

I like this as a thing, like

the couple who was talking over each other the whole time. I was getting kind of annoyed by that, but I was like, this sounds exactly like how an old person, two old people would tell me their story.

Thirteen floors. Thirteen floors.

Or they're like, saying the same. Like, she's filling in parts of the story while he's still talking. I'm like, oh, my God. Like, I can't listen to both of you.

I went. I wrote a nine extra flight. I. I stayed on for nine extra floors. And she looks like, nine extra floors say, well, the.

That building was actually built. And he starts going on about how the they. I'm like, oh, just one of you needs to pick one who's talking. Like, my brain doesn't work that way. I cannot focus if there's two people talking at the same time. I just can't.

My wife constantly has this thing about how she. She's like, when we're older, she's like, we're getting two separate houses.

You've told us before.

And. And I. And I said to her, when they're sitting there doing the thing where they're talking on the phone watching, like, the same show, I'm like, that if you want to survive, this is how it's going to be every night. She's like, that's fine. I don't care.

Were you coming and do a confessional every night?

I just call and talk to her every night. Oh, no, no, not the confessional. The thing in bed. Watching. No, laying in bed, watching the show, talking to each other.

Watching Casablanca.

Yeah.

Blanca.

Until I probably fall asleep.

Blanca.

While she's still talking.

The Casablanca at the house of Blanca.

The house of Blanca. Oh, I wish he was in that.

Oh, that's a prequel. Now that we got to work on there.

Casa de Blanca.

No, but no, A Street Fighter.

The prequel to Casablanca is actually about Blanca from Street Fighter.

From Street Fighter, who comes from, like, the Colombian jungle. Right. So he would be. It would be the Casa Blanca.

Yeah. And then. Yeah. He just somehow meets up with them at the end. He recruits those characters into the next Street Fighter game. Yeah.

Makes sense to me. I would do that.

I. I wish at the end that they were old people too. You know,

Harry and. Harry and Sally. Yeah, I kind of thought they were gonna do that, like, show them being like.

Yeah, I thought that, like, not that

it'd been like, you know, you know, a couple months later, just like, no, we're now. We've been married for 30 years.

But here's the thing. If they would have done that, they would aged up. Billy Crystal. He would have been his character from the Princess Bride.

Yeah, he would have. That been great.

Like, I don't think he could have not been that character for the princess. Like, just be normal. Billy I am being normal, right? Like, that's how I talk. Yeah, exactly.

I don't know. I just felt weird. A bunch of old people and then them, which. I mean, Billy Crystal, you know, he's old way.

He was old already. He was 40 years old. He's ancient.

Jesus, Cig is so old. Wow.

This man with a terrible baseball swing, man, he's lunched at everything. You gotta keep your hands back, dude. Anyway, do we do it?

I think so. I think we did.

I guess we did.

Did we get through When Harry Met Sally?

Yeah.

The first of our rom com expeditions of the month.

I believe so.

Expedition.

Wow.

Big word, right? What'd you guys think?

That was big.

I mean, I think it's. It's got. It's, you know, it's claim as being, like, you know, one of the better rom coms or, like, I don't know, somehow Rushmore one. But it's. It's high up there on the list. And I. I think it earns its. You know, it earns its reasoning for that. Am I gonna watch it again anytime soon? Not. Probably not. But, you know, throwing it in here because I want to make sure we can see any movie. Yeah, I enjoyed it. I mean, I laughed at a couple parts. I thought a couple parts were pretty good overall, and then solid.

I liked it. I thought it was good. I do think Billy Crystal's character is a little bit obnoxious, but I think that's the point. At the end, he does seem to finally embrace just being a normal man, but maybe a little too late. I feel like he is very his person. He's a very strong personality, and it's very abrasive. But I think they work well together, the two main characters. Yeah, I thought it was actually pretty good. I enjoyed it. If, like, someone wanted to throw it on, I'd be willing to watch it again, but, yeah, I'm not gonna go rushing to watch it.

Wants to watch it again.

Yeah.

If I still have an eating hot dog man tonight, then he's gonna want to watch it. So I have to pull into the bathroom so you can find.

It's on his. His big board. Number one on his big board at all time.

Yeah, well, because he only shows up every, like, 20 years, so he doesn't get to watch stuff.

So, like, when you tear, you get into my. You get into my thighs. Let's throw on that.

There's a lot to unpack with that sentence there, Keith.

I thought, well, but hold on, hot dog man. I'm not really. I Just ate. I'm not really feeling it. Let's just watch the film. Oh, wait a minute.

Does that. Okay, sorry. Does hot dog man have no, like, appendages, like.

No, he does, but just arms, legs, thigh. Is, there's, there's something.

I feel like he's trying to make a move on me.

I don't like that or seductive about that. Hot dog was.

It was not, it was not meant to be. That's not what I was meaning to do.

I was just like.

I was just trying to be like, oh, you're get. Okay, so. Oh, Terry, you're getting my stomach area.

Throw on my lower abdomen.

Lower, lower. Hot Dog man. Come on, Hot dog man. Hot Dog man and man can just be friend. Okay, we don't have to get into this.

No, no, Terry. Hot dog man and man can be friends.

There's always a sexual interest between.

This man is a literal wiener.

How could anyone resist?

How could anyone resist? I thought the movie was fine. I liked it. I didn't hate it. That was good. I do not care for Billy Crystal's character in this movie. I think he's an from A to Z. And even at the end where he's. Where it's like, I love you and here's the reason I love you. They felt aggressive. It's just like, Jesus Christ, man. Okay, get. I get it. I like Meg Ryan. I thought the story was fine. Like Carrie Fisher, like the, the. What was that? His name was in Sheldon. Sheldon was his, was her. I had great sex with story. Yeah, whatever. His character, Jess. Yeah, they were fine. They were good. But whatever, right? Like, it's, it's a rom com, I guess. I, I, I. This is not, as Keith said, this is not my genre of comfort zone. I don't seek out rom coms. My wife loves them.

I'm on either.

And I watch them with my wife every once in a while. But, like, this one was fine. And I don't know if this is Mount Rushmore one or if it's just like a modern day rom com. I mean, Modern Day. It's 1989. It's 40 years old.

Yeah, I, I have, I have a few movies that would count as rom coms that I actually like.

And yeah, like, I don't dislike rom coms. They're just not what I seek out. Even with Star Wars Actor Cinema.

Wow, that's saying something.

I know. Exactly.

And so. And the reason you're explaining there, Derek, is the exact reason why I picked it for this month.

Yeah, that's Fine. Just less condescending, I guess.

Yeah, right.

Convoluted and convoluted.

I'll never forget that. You said that to me, Keith.

Well, yeah, don't.

Yeah, you better remember it. Well, well, well, well. We know what we thought. What did the Internet have to say on April 27th of 2021? WICJ, which could be a radio station, had this to say. Timeless. I introduced this film to my 27 year old girlfriend. Okay, I don't know about this, Keith. How old was Meg Ryan when they made this movie?

The 27th. How old is WICJ now? That's.

I'm wondering if this is like something he grew up on.

He's. He's 60. Hold on.

Here's the sense. I introduced this film to my 27 year old girlfriend. Semicolon. I am hyphen, hyphen, Older.

Huh?

Period.

He said yes. Okay, he's way older.

He's at least 40.

I'm guessing he's his age of bully.

Crystal. I'm sorry? WICJ probably knew her when she was 12.

Oh.

Or it's like, you know, it's a sugar daddy now or something like that. Yeah.

I don't buy it. Anyway, could be anything.

He might explain further in the review. Who knows?

Well, let's find out. I watched it with her for the her first time because every time we'd beat in a restaurant, she was Sally and she missed the reference so we had to watch it. Not only did I enjoy it for the umpteenth viewing, but she absolutely loved it. I mean, I came home from work tonight and there she was watching it again for the fifth or sixth time. She loves it because I am Harry and she is Sally. But more importantly, she loves it. And I love it still because it is a timeless classic. It's a great movie because Billy Crystal's deadpan delivery of every line hits every time because Meg Ryan is in her prime as America's sweetheart and plays off Billy Crystal so well that it's hard to imagine anybody else in the row in that role. Ditto for the rest of the supporting cast. The direction by Reiner is well paced and doesn't stagnate as many of these rom coms tend to do. And the interview style scenes with the random couples are funny and poignant. Five found this helpful. Three, not so much. Ten out of ten.

Okay. He very much relates to the film.

Yes, he relates to it on a very personal level because he is part of a December May relationship. I'm assuming he's like 60.

It may be. It may be Bill Belichick.

Well, not to be undone. On December 22nd of 2003, three days before Christmas, Paulore, underscore G had this to say. A real disappointment. Oh, as this movie was advertised as being a very good and an entertaining motion picture.

Isn't every film advertised that way?

It's a very entertaining motion picture. I was really looking forward to it and looking forward to some good laughs

out at the time it was released. Why is he talking like he was been waiting for the advertisements of this film and everything?

2003. I don't know. I don't know. Okay, this Paul. Underscore. Double. Underscore. Underscore. Underscore Gannett. Unfortunately, the movie turned out to be a real dud. An unforgettable disappointment. Well, unforgettable disappointment. Rob Reiner is an exceptionally good director as Billy Crystal and Meg Ryan are exceptional actors. But either the script or the timing was terrible. I laughed once at Rob Reiner's mother's line in the restaurant and that was it. I didn't even smile through the rest of the movie. Not to mention I never felt the urge to weep. What? Parentheses, if you won't make him laugh first, make him cry. Oh, and parentheses.

That is the rule.

Sadly, it was a real waste of 96 minutes. 16 found this helpful. 16, not so much. Perfect balance, like a little toss up there. One out of ten.

Okay, then. It's harsh, but I don't know.

I don't understand. He's advertised as being a very good movie. The movie came out. Yeah, 20 years or 15 years before this person reviewed it.

Did he, like, make a time capsule and send it to IMDb like at 1989?

And what if Paul Gannett, when the movie came out, got the vhs, put it in a time capsule, set it open at Christmas of 2003?

Oh, yeah.

Okay, maybe. Maybe it's not. Maybe it's not actual advertising. Like as in like seeing like an ad or a trailer. It's like people were hyping this movie

up to him as advertised.

Yeah, like, maybe like the girl he was seeing and her family made him sit down and watch it over Christmas.

It's like word of mouth advertising.

And he really hated it.

He had advertised and he had no

place else he could tell anybody he had nod along with it while he watched it because her and her parents and family all loved it. And he had to go quickly, find someplace, God, an outlet to say how much he hated the movie.

What if Paul Ganett was trapped in Some crazy sham of a relationship based upon his enjoyment of this movie.

He was like, oh, yeah, I love it.

Like it?

Yep. He's been living a lie all these years.

He's still to this day, like when When Harry Met Sally is mentioned. He probably watches it every year on December 22.

His wife or not his now wife and him are like. Yeah. It's like the thing that relationships built

upon get around children, but they do one of those little confessional things and they start to it and he just turns look at it and be like, I hate that movie ever since we've seen it, but I love you enough to stick through it.

This is a good rom com idea right here.

Yeah, yeah. And Paul is a pretty generic name just like Harry is. So what is Paul Gannett's wife's name? It's gotta be generic.

Barbara.

Starlight or whatever that was.

Starlight.

Starlight, That's Basket.

Barbara Basket. Paul and Barbara Basket.

Well, Paul's name was Ephron, I think it was. What was.

What was Basket's first day?

I don't know. I have it right here. Hold on. Daughter of screenwriters Henry and Phoebe Efron. That's Nora Ephron. Oh. Zac Efron was David Efron. And Starla Basket.

There you go. There we go. I was close.

Starla Basket. There's nothing that sounds. That sounds like a stage name. I don't know why you choose Basket, but Starla doesn't sound like a Basket.

Starla's a great first name, but Basket kind of is like a. Huh?

Yeah.

Like it's not. I'm not gonna make fun of someone's name, but it's like, you know, like,

my last name is terrible. Her last name is Basket. I don't know.

It's just weird. It's not like it's like a bad thing. It's just not something you hear every day. If you, like go down the family lineage, it's like, you know how last names sometimes like found forms and he's like, were you just like a basket weaver? Like, where did this come from? Your family was big into Baskets.

Basketman.

Big enough into Baskets to get the last name basketball.

Here's like, if you went to every major city and collected phone books. I don't know if they make phone books anymore, but I mentioned they still do. And you looked in the bees. How many last names are Basket?

Probably at least three.

Three in every major city. You think there's three Baskets in every major city?

Yeah, there's at least three Baskets?

I don't think so. I don't think that at all. There's probably one Basket in Los Angeles, and it's. And it's Starla Basket's sister, because I assume Starlet Basket's dead. I don't know why, but I just assume that.

Wow. I mean, that's pretty.

Wow.

That's a very big assumption.

I know. It's. It's a terrible assumption. I don't know how old, Star.

Quite a dark turn.

Here it is. Well, Starla Basket birthed zac Efron in 1987.

Yeah, there we go.

Now we're. Now we're back on a high note.

So. Yeah, she was somewhere between the ages of. Oh, I hate to say this, like, 14 and 45 now.

Wow.

No, at the time. In 1987.

Okay, so she could still be around.

She could be.

Yeah.

Who could say?

40 years ago.

I bet I could find the obituary.

Let me call Starla Basket.

Let me text him, you know, you're in Texas.

Sack effort.

His mom is still alive. Or not.

How's your mom doing?

Who? I don't have a mom.

I was weeded.

Birthed from a test tube. Literal.

He was weaved out of straw Basket. Like

he's a basket man.

Oh, not him. You don't want to know what Basket man does when he comes Fill me

with eggs and eat me.

Fill me with your eggs. Oh, no.

Okay, no, it has to be your eggs, or I won't accept.

No, no, no, no.

All right, well, I gotta do what I gotta do.

No Basket Man. I love how we have, like, Cryptids now. We've. We've created Cryptids.

Hot Dog Man, Bun man, and Basket man, all defeated. If you eat them, the basket too. Oh, I guess you have to put eggs in Basket Man. I forgot. He's different.

Okay, but you still have to eat the Basket Man.

Yeah. You have to fill him up first, and then you have to eat him

and then eat him. And if you eat him before putting the eggs in, he comes back to life. Yeah.

And you have to start all over again.

Yeah.

He reassembles himself from your defecation and he laughs.

Laughs in your face. Yeah. You won't know you failed until you defecate and you find him.

Yes. And you don't pass him in one go either.

Oh, no. Definitely not. No.

I know. Something's starting to clump together in the bathroom, I bet.

Oh, God damn it.

Yep.

Oh, Basket Man. What have I got myself into? We have Cryptids. We have. We have so much going On. But we. What we do have to do, though, is next week is Terry week. It's week two of M5 of DTFY2.

That's right, bubble.

So, Terry, tell us what it is we are watching for next week.

I was having trouble picking something like usual, but I finally just decided to go with kind of a random pick I saw online. And it was from a director that I recognize. So I was like, you know what? This will do. It's called Eagle versus Shark.

Oh, I know this movie. I've never seen it, but I know it.

One of the Flight of the Concords guys, right?

Yeah, directed by Taco Waititi. And yeah, it's got a Germaine in it.

Oh, nice.

I think I've actually seen this.

All right.

Pardon me. I had a sneeze.

Bless you.

Got dusty down here.

Apparently.

All this basket dander.

That's the first sign of Basket Man's coming.

The dander I'm basking creeping up on me.

You turn around, there's a dust cloud of danger.

Floating Basket man, help me with eggs. They like eggs. But hold on. I don't have to be hard boiled. It doesn't matter what kind of eggs either. You can get caviar and throw it in there and be fine.

They'll take any type of egg, salmon roe. That's why everybody needs to have their own, like, chicken coop out back that they can. All right.

For a Basket man,

every Easter, you have to watch out because Basket man comes running around. This is time to shine.

It is. It's time to shine. Oh, and if you make it through Easter without spotting Basket man, consider yourself lucky. All right. Well, I guess. I mean, we did it. We got through. DTF Y2M5, W1, When Harry Met Sally. We're on to W2. Eagle versus Shark.

That's right.

That leaves us with nothing to do but to end this the way we end everything.

Everything.

Whose car is this?

Yeah, come on.

Whoever did this, just confess. We promise we won't be mad.

What?

Well, close our eyes. Just take your car and get out of here.

Sir, that's clearly your car. Wrong. Someone call the police.

Yeah, that's one idea. Or we can work as a team,

find out whoever did this and punish him ourselves. Maybe take his bare butt out of his costume and spank him.

Maybe you could do it, sir.

Not gonna happen.

Okay, you.

No. Well, one of us is gonna happen. No one's getting spanked.

You know what's driving me nuts? It could literally be any one of us. No, it couldn't you're dressed like a hot dog.

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As we keep on fumbling, he man's coming up.

Dad looks like trash.

We've had this conversation before.

I shouldn't have brought it up.

Keith is getting. Here comes.

No, I'm good.

We ain't got anything.

Super emotional, aggressive plea to not see he man and stop ruining his child.

Oh, I'll still. I'll still be seeing it.

You will see. That's amazing to me.

I'm gonna go see Mandalorian Grogu. I don't think it looks good.

I think that looks cool. I'll go see that. I like Star Wars.

Are you that excited about it?

I. I love Star Wars. I just don't think the trailer I haven't been excited for at all.

See the mando. Like, Hadley and I go see that because we have a long history of watching Mandalorian together.

No, see, my kids and I haven't have a long history, but they both want to see that, so we'll probably go see it.

Well,