Bond Wildcard: The World Is Not Enough (1999)

Gather together from the cosmic reaches of the universe. Here in this great screening room with comfortable recliners are the most powerful forces of good ever assembled. Keith.

Now, what wasn't whack though, was the helicopter with the giant chainsaw on it.

Terry, I need to get me one of those. Next time it snows really bad, I am gonna get a snowmobile to parachute. I'm gonna go flying into work. Derek.

They had to put the skiing in there. Winter Olympics fever have captured the world. And the power twins Zapp and Jordan with their magical lemur snort ded to fumbling their way through movies one forgotten gem at a time. This week we watched the 1999 Pierce Brosnan nuclear disaster. The world is not enough. This is fumbling through film. Are you here for a reason or are you just hoping for a glimmer? And you are? Mikhail Arkov, Russian atomic energy department. Miss. Dr. Jones. Christmas Jones. And don't make any jokes.

I've heard them all.

I don't know any doctor jokes. This is okay. Take the elevator down the hall. Your friends are already down there.

Don't I get some kind of protection?

No, Dr. Arcof.

Down there it's all weapons grade plutonium. Reasonably safe.

Up here we've got hydrogen bombs that

your lab built leaking tritium which I've spent the last six months trying to clean up. So if you need any protection at all, it's from me. Hello and welcome to another one of a kind, genre defining, brand new episode of Fumbling through Film. The only show that dares to bring together three dudes to talk about movies. But these aren't just any movies though.

Nope.

They are the ones we've missed, overlooked or feel are simply worth revisiting. If you look that up in the Webster's dictionary in those words, it would cross reference you to any movie.

Any of those words would take you to that.

Yes.

Yep.

Wow. Any movie. And there's a picture of our podcast. Anyway, my name is Derek and I am a fumbler. Joining me here in the Fumble Dome, our reclaimed planetarium that we use as a screening room now, is the worldly prime minister of fumbling and film, Keith.

Hey, hey, what's up KG fumbler extraordinaire? And just letting everyone know I'm leading a petition for the next Winter Olympics to have downhill skiing, have guys and parachute down and beard fan boats and

shoot fanboat snowmobile parachuting. Yes, yes, like that.

With guns.

With guns, of course.

Well, you combine it in two events. One is just that. See if they can get all the way to the bottom. But also they shoot the downhill skiers as well, and it just adds in for a whole nother event.

Let. Let your congressman or congresswoman know that we want that to happen. I don't know where the next Winter Olympics is, but I bet you it's someplace that does not frown upon murdering of skiers.

No.

North Korea, apparently. I don't know.

They'll probably do it. That's nicely enough.

They might do it already.

Yeah. For all I know, they're already doing that.

They're giving out gold medals to their best snowmobile fan boat parachuter. But it shoots skiers. Yeah, they're a guy that likes to shoot skiers or dreams of shooting skiers.

Oh, God.

It's the Dr. Drave, Kansas. His name is Terry.

Every morning I wake up sad because I realized all my dreams were fake and I hadn't actually shot any skiers yet. I dream of it every night, and I wake up just a little disappointed

looking at the headlines.

Yep.

Again,

you wake up and immediately go to the news and you're scrolling like,

did I do it?

I didn't shoot any skiers.

Damn it.

I swear, Lindsey Vaughn didn't just hit a gate.

I shot her down.

I shot her in my dreams.

Yep. Yep. It's my life's goal.

Yeah. You know, we need to make our evening a skull.

Are we gonna be shooting any skiers?

No, but this podcast. We didn't make this podcast our evening goal.

I think a lot of people should make this their evening goal.

Like, it should be their daily goal. People should be listening to our podcast every day.

Yep. Yeah, we have enough episodes to cover probably a couple months. Yeah, a couple months and then just restart.

Yeah. I mean, it's like anytime a new season, something comes out, you want to re. Listen. You want to re. Watch those shows.

True. For every episode. I re. Listened to all our previous episodes.

Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, so, I mean, anybody who wanted to start in January with our DTF calendar. Two.

Yeah, Year two. This is month two.

Yeah.

But let's explain what DTF means. What? Why?

Please, let's explain that. Let's get. Let's clarify what that means exactly every month.

Well, every week. I'm sorry. Every week we watch movies, but every month, one of us picks a theme, a genre, a guiding light, something for us to fumble through. Right. So we're down to fumble every month.

Every week.

We're ready. We're DTF every week.

Every week. And we're in year two of dtf. And anyway, DTF them, one of us chooses a theme, a genre, whatever. We each pick something that adheres to them or genre. And then on the fourth week, we spin a magical wheel that gives us a movie to watch. And that's one of these weeks. But before we get that, this month that we're winding up, month two was a Keith month. So Keith, tell us what you chose.

I went with an all time classic. I think we referred to him as

one of western Western civilization, greatest literary characters.

Yes. That would be James Bond.

Yes, Bond movies. And you started off us off with

Dave Champa's favorite Bond movie. Oh, Honor Majesty. Secret Service.

Honor man. Service.

The 69, I believe.

1969.

69, sorry.

Yes.

And then.

Okay, I forget that I don't know.

Iconic. And everything changed.

Everything changed. Then Terry, you chose Tomorrow Never Dies. Tomorrow Never Dies. And then I chose Casino Royale. Not the, the pseudo spoof from 1967 or whatever, but the Daniel Craig Casino Royale. Yeah. And then the wheel spun and it chose Green Lantern.

That's right.

But Terry said, hell no, he vetoed this in a hurry, which is good. It was, it was my. I was testing the wheel because the wheel actually liked me. It wouldn't have chosen Green Lantern, but because it chose Green Lantern, I just know it's a stone cold killer. It just does whatever it wants.

No, no, I, I think it's just confused at that point. It still was like, oh, I have to pick Derek's movie.

The Wheel is a stone cold killer and it does what it wants.

I think it does what it thinks you want. But I don't think it understands your feelings behind what you say.

Yeah, I think you might have broken the, the wheel's thought process a bit.

All I know is if the wheel was on my side, it wouldn't have chosen Green Lantern.

It was a very. Was it like a Sophie's Choice thing for the wheel?

Didn't want to hurt your feelings, but it you.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, that's fine because it does matter. We didn't have to watch Green Lantern.

Yeah.

Because Terry vetoed. And then we got Terry's choice of

the World is not the World is

Not Enough, which I feel like we've

just been watching that one earlier.

But if you listen to all of Tomorrow Never Dies, you would have got to the post credits scene where I edited out a big chunk, but the threw it at the end because I thought it was too funny. The only reason I ended up is Terry's like, just edit. Just edit everything out up to that point. And I was like, okay, good call.

Give you a clean break right there.

But Terry thought he chose a movie, but actually chose another movie.

Yes.

And then to right is wrong, he put Tomorrow Never Dies on the wheel.

And we know. I put the World Is Never World Is Not Enough.

Whatever it is. It's one of the Bond movies with

Pierce Bross and very much shores up this like thing that we've talked about. I think every single time is none of us know which Bond movie is which.

I'll tell you what. I watched the Dana Craig bonds. I know them all. I can tell you what happens to each one of them. All his previous Bonds, they're just. It's just like a big hodgepodge activity. Who knows, maybe this one's different. It's called the World Is Not Enough. Yes, that's right.

Before.

Before we deep dive the World Is Not Enough, before we talk about our viewing of the World Is Not Enough. Did any of us have any previous experience, knowledge, history with the World Is Not Enough?

Just the same as I have with most of the other Bonds. I've seen them. I don't remember them. I'm using this as a full rewatch of all the Bond stuff. But yeah, it's a Pierce Brosnan one. I knew Denise Richards was in it. That's the only thing I actually remembered from this though.

Yeah. I think as I mentioned in the Tomorrow Never Dies episode post credit scene, I. I played the video game of this as a kid. Only the first level where he goes to the bank. The surprisingly very short part of the movie. I thought this was a big part because the game is a whole level of you like infiltrating the bank, sneaking in until you get to the bank. The like the Swiss banker guy. But I only played the first level because it was fun because you could like go off the rails and like if you like shot one of the security guards or something, it would just like turn it into a wave survival game where the cops would try and come and stop you. So I would just do that for the most part. Never really beat the game. But, you know, I knew it was when we, when this category arrived, this is the first thing I thought of. And then when I went to choose my choice, I said tomorrow Never Dies in accident. So I picked it on the wheel to redeem it. My. My choice.

Well, Terry, I, I think it's probably good that you didn't play the game. Cause then you would have had this all spoiled for you.

Oh God. Yeah, there's a lot of twists and

Turns a lot of twists and turns a lot of unexpected things. And I bet you there's a scene where you have to be M and try to knock a clock off a chair.

I bet you're gonna play as M. The first game to play as M. I.

But the real.

And the real trick though is just ask somebody to hand you the clock instead.

Yeah, just give me the clock. Sure. I think I saw this movie before. Probably in theaters. Maybe. I. I could not tell you. I'm assuming I did. I didn't remember any of it if I did see it. But anyway.

Yeah, I'm skeptical because you can't bring up ice castles and there's no ice.

Well, that was the other. I just assumed it was the one with Ice Castles because that would be interesting. But that's not it.

Maybe it's the other Pierce Brosnan one.

It is the, the, the next one. The Never die another minute. I don't know what it is.

Death will never die.

Death. Death will never die. Death is not enough anyway.

You know, one thing I did think of while watching this one is this is.

I.

They should do this with the Indiana Jones movies. Just, just pick a new actor every now and then and just.

I agree with that. Tell us more stories.

Roll them out.

I agree with that 100%. There's no reason to bring out wheel out Harrison.

Yeah, 90 year old Harrison.

No, just get a new actor. That's fine. And he doesn't have to look like Harrison Ford. I don't care. Yeah, don't, don't try to like make a young Han Solo movie with a person that you think kind of looks like Harrison Ford. Just give me. I don't care.

I'm all, all for recasting. Just recast. It's fine. I'll just do my disbelief. I'm not going to be confused. I get it. He's Indiana Jones.

You know it actually be like a, a cool way to make it work though is you have Harrison Ford in there and he's just like telling somebody a story and then it just fades.

Like the Princess Bread.

Oh yeah.

Like he, like he's just there. He's just there at the beginning and maybe he's there at the end and. But he's just telling somebody a story and it just fades into and it goes to whoever they want to be.

The have a different Indiana Jones.

Just. They just.

Yeah, yeah. I don't think we're watching a make believe movie anyway. Let us make believe it's fine.

Just in the movie. Have Harrison Ford get cloned and Ashley. And then when he comes out of the vat, it's like, oh, he looks a little off. You know, and it's like, oh, we did something wrong with the machine. And then that way everybody can accept it's actually Indiana Jones. It's just something went a little off and that's why he looks different. So that way the film explains it and then we can just move on.

Or just explain that he got some, you know, reconstructive surgery. Because too many people are on to his tricks and tactics and that's what

he had to do.

That's.

I. I agree. Just. Or just, you know, keep calling Harrison Ford the whole time. But he has.

That'd be weird because things.

Well, the character I'm talking about, the actor has to go out and do all of his press as Harrison Ford.

Oh, yeah, he dresses up like Harrison Ford. He's all grumpy.

Like he just even be himself. But he just goes by the name Harrison Ford to the point where people are starting to doubt themselves. Did Harrison Ford really exist before? They don't know because this person is. Claims to be Harrison Ford.

Oh, because Harrison Ford himself was never actually Harrison Ford. He's just a.

No, he was there. But because this person is so Harrison Ford, we forget. We start to doubt that the other Harrison Ford's real. And then Harrison Ford, the OG Harrison Ford comes out and says, hey, I'm really Harrison Ford. People like, this guy's crazy.

Yeah, they're gonna. He's like some old guy on the street corners. Yeah. Rambling. I made the Indiana Jones films. Yeah. No, you didn't, you psycho. Yeah.

So the studio should. I really thought that gaslight us

the real Harrison Ford, take his name

and just assume the role of Harri Harrison Ford in life.

I think I'm gonna do that.

I swear to God, I thought that

was Denzel Washington, but I guess it's Harrison Ford this whole time. Okay.

Yeah, I think I'm gonna just go around. I'm. Now I'm Harrison Ford.

Yeah, that's what you do it, Terry.

Or.

I'm sorry, Mr. Ford.

Thank you.

The Dr. Dre of Harrison Ford's right over there.

That's right. I'm Harrison Ford and I starred in all the Indiana Jones films. And I was Han Solo at one point.

Yeah, I mean, it's. It's.

Because.

I mean, it's. Obviously, it's something that's thoroughly accepted here in. In this what?

Gaslighting and assuming someone's life? I think it is.

Yeah. I think it is accepted. Yeah.

No, the changing of the. The changing of the actor. It's all perfectly done here. Like we don't have to make it.

We've had like 15 Batmans. So what?

Yeah, I don't care.

They deal with this, you know, it's. You know. And you make a big humble bubble.

But yeah, they should do this more often. Batman Begins to the Dark Knight. They recast Batman's girlfriend and nobody flipped out.

Yeah, I did.

Oh, well, there he did. He was online raging about that.

I was, I. That was at the time my online rage about everything.

Yeah. To be fair, you were an equal opportunity ranger. You were just raging by anything.

Yeah. It didn't matter what it was. Like I said, I had no idea. See, those are the most fun things to rage about. Things you know nothing about.

Yes. To make the other person mad. Because I don't understand what you're saying. And then you just keep on. Yeah.

Actually, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I, I like to quote famous smart people with the things that they've said. Be like, oh, clearly you've never read so and so. And I quote their own book to them.

Yeah. You're talking to an author.

Yeah, I do that all the time.

I like that.

Scientists and stuff like that and like their scientific work to them.

That'd be, that'd be funny. You, you see like an act like a know famous author or something and you go and like you get into argument with you like have you ever read. And they just like read off one of his titles.

Here's the thing that happens a lot online. Not I'm not the one doing it, but it happens a lot. And it, it does.

It's.

That's why, that's why I said I want like to do that. You know what else like to do? I like to sit back and relax as Terry takes us closer to a movie.

Oh, sorry.

Than we could ever imagined. And that's the World is not Enough. Right, Terry? You knew that.

I am gonna do that.

Yes. Good. Because I totally relaxed all day assuming you were gonna do it.

Oh God.

Check in because we gotta get ready. Keith, just prepare yourself for another patent pending Fumblers deep dive.

The world is not Enough. That's what we're talking about today. You know what? I think the world is Enough. I think it is enough. Well, let's talk about the director, Michael Apted.

Let's talk about this person.

We'll talk about him a little bit. So he's got 86 directing credits on IMDb. Wow.

It's a lot.

It's a lot. And a lot of stuff I have never heard about. And I have very little interest in.

Wow.

But I'll bring up a few things that caught my eye. So he directed something called Gorillas in the Mist.

Oh, yeah.

So I think this is a fairly popular movie.

Yeah. About Diane Fosse, right?

Yes. This woman goes up into the African mountains, studies gorillas.

I think that's Sigourney Weaver. Yeah.

Yep. She lives up there. She's like, falls in love with the area, with the gorillas. She thinks it's amazing. Despite, you know, the inherent danger of hanging out with wild gorillas, she still likes it. But then there's a problem with the whole poaching thing. People are taking out gorillas, stealing gorilla babies.

Oh, that's terrible.

No, it's really sad. So she has to fight back against that.

Yeah, I agree.

I think this is a fairly well acclaimed film.

I think it is. I think you're right.

I think Sigourney Weaver may have been nominated for acting. Oscar or something. Maybe. Who knows? Didn't look it up too much. He also directed something called Enigma. Takes place during World War II. So this is about a young genius. He has to solve a mysterious code and discover a, like, the machinations of this local spy network.

Oh, my goodness.

Very mysterious. Yeah. It didn't seem that great. It looked kind of boring. But he also directed something called Extreme Measures, which. That's way more my. I'm like, whoa, that sounds like a

Steven Seagal movie or something.

Yes. That was immediately intrigued by this. But it's not Steven Seagal, it's Hugh Grant.

Oh, that's a drop off.

So Hugh Grant is a doctor. He lives in New York.

Gene Hackman.

Yes. Gene Hackman plays the villain. Or at least I think he's the villain. Hugh Grant's character, he's investigating because something fishy is going on at the hospital. One of his patients bodies disappears. Everybody's like, I don't know where it went. That's weird. I don't know. And there's this whole conspiracy going on where bodies are disappearing, people are disappearing. It turns out that there's these doctors that are taking people and using them as test subjects to make scientific breakthroughs. Oh. But with like, you know, no safety measures or anything, just the sacrifice of science. Must use these people to make these great breakthroughs. And yeah, Gene Hackman is the villain. I'm pretty sure he's the one leading this. This crew of body abductors.

I just See this line here? Hugh Grant and Gene Hackman roam the hospital corridors in a gripping medical thriller where nothing is it seems.

Doesn't that sound cool?

Yeah. I like how they don't even use their character names.

They're just the actors. Yeah.

It has nothing to do with the. The rest of it.

And they're roaming the hospital corridor so much more exciting than that.

Nothing is what it seems because it's a movie.

There may be some twists and turns in this hospital based thriller. There's a few writers, but we've talked about all of them already. Bruce Fairstein wrote Never Dies. Neil Purvis and Robert Wade. We discussed about Casino Royale. So I was like, why do we even need to discuss it? There's no need. They've mostly done mostly Bond. These guys, all of them are very big Bond people. I'd say they get most of their. Their work from the Bond franchise.

Broccoli money coming in.

Oh, yeah, Broccoli.

Why?

Are you gonna walk away from it?

Yeah, you might as well keep it going. Yeah, I got that broccoli money rolling in. I ain't gonna stop that broccoli green. Oh, that broccoli green. Yeah, that nice, crisp, crunchy broccoli green. That's true. We've already talked about Pierce Brosnan as well, so I'm gonna skip him.

Okay.

Some of these other people.

Let's do it.

We got Sophia Marco, who plays Electric King in this movie.

Electric King.

The biggest movie that she's been in besides this was Braveheart.

Oh, okay.

She's a wife.

Braveheart. Mrs. Braveheart.

Yeah.

I don't know, maybe Madam Braveheart. I want to see part of that movie. You haven't seen all that movie. She was in the LOL franchise. So there's LOL 1 and LOL 2.

What is that?

This is a. This is a French film series.

Oh, I thought you meant like the dolls. My daughter's got a bunch of LOL dolls.

Oh. Or is that a doll franchise too? Yeah. Oh.

I thought maybe it was like some weird, like, horror film franchise, like some

spin off of lmfao.

It's a French movie. It's about a girl named Lola. Or LOL for short. LOL maybe.

Oh, your name's Lola already? How do you need short?

LOL is longer to say than Lola. Yeah, yeah, that's what they call her. So her boyfriend cheats on her, and so she starts flirting with her, her now ex boyfriend's best friend, as revenge. Oh. As one does, things start to heat up a little bit. You Know, it comes more serious than she expected. Sophia Marco plays the mother in this series of the Girl. So this movie, the first one came out in 2008. Then LOL2 came out in 2026.

Wow. This. So just this year?

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, It's February of 26 right now.

People were clamoring for this, I guess.

I guess so. So much so, they needed a January

release over 10 years later. So this is. This one's about Lola. She's returning home. She's an adult, she's pregnant, much to her mother's shock. And they have to kind of adapt to this new development in their life. This one seems a lot more mom focused. Sophie Marco's character seems to be the more focused on this one.

Good.

She's getting older. She's finding new love as well. Blah, blah, blah. The trailer's all in French, so I couldn't tell you exactly what's going on. These are all just my theories.

Huh. Those are good theories too. I like.

I feel like that's what it was about, based off that, at the IMDb synopsis. So Robert Carlisle, he's in this. He plays Renard.

Which one was Renard?

Renard is the guy with the bullet in his head.

Oh, yeah.

And we have talked about him before because he played Gaz in the Full Monty, which I did not even notice that. So I was doing the research. Like, no, he really, like, disappeared into this role. He was in train spotting 1 and 2 as well. Both pretty big movies.

I wonder if he's like a method actor and he actually had a bullet inserted into his brain.

I think he did. Yeah. Yeah, I think put one in there and then just like. Yeah, after. Immediately after filming, he'd have to, like, every. After every day on set, he'd have a doctor yank it out of his brain really fast. So then they had to put it back in in the morning.

Every day they yank it out and every morning they shove it in.

But, man, it really paid off for this film.

Yeah, it's.

It's.

When you got a role like this, you've really got to put yourself into it.

Yeah, he really got to put something into you as well. He voiced Dracula in a few of the recent Castlevania games.

Oh, okay.

That's pretty cool. I agree. It's like an actor's dream to play Dracula, you know, so good for him.

Which one was Gaz in?

He's the main guy.

Okay.

With the sun. Yeah.

Huh.

All right.

But, yeah, you gotta play Dracula as well. So that's Great.

Which one's Dracula again?

Oh, Dracula. He's got that. That widow's peak with the hair. Oh, yeah.

He's the one who didn't want to do the full dance. He's against doing the full Monty.

He wanted to keep his go track. Yeah. Frankenstein was all for it, but. Yeah, well, he's got the monster.

He's a man. He is a monster.

Anyways, yeah, Dracula is cool.

Big fan.

Big fan. Big fan of Dracula. Yeah. He started and directed a movie called Barney Thompson.

I love the way this sounds. I bet you it's great.

So he, of course, he plays Barney Thompson in this movie.

Oh, God. He directs and. Oh, no, he's not directing his stars.

He directed as well.

He directed it.

I had to remember who we were talking about.

Who are we?

Dracula.

Gas.

He played Gas in the Full Monty. And he was Renard in this iconic.

Bernard is the one with the bullet in his head.

Yes.

Who kidnapped Victoria King. No. What's her name?

Electra.

Electra King. When you say it, like, as one, it sounds like one word, but electric. Electric King, I guess. I don't know.

Yeah.

All right.

Well, there's a lot. There's so many memorable characters in this film. It's hard to keep track of them all because there is a lot of them.

There are so many characters, but.

Yeah. So Barney Thompson is this film that he directed and starred in. He played Barney Thompson, the titular Barney Thompson.

Nobody could do it.

Barney Thompson is a boring, plain barber. He doesn't have much going on. He's not doing that great his job. His boss is constantly yelling at him. They get into an argument, and he ends up accidentally murdering his boss.

Okay.

As one does.

One does fell on him while he had scissors and he, like, got stabbed. Oh, God. Of course. A police manhunt begins for the murder. They suspect the serial killer is out and about killing people with scissors. Yeah, I guess so. And Barney is trying to hide the body. He's trying to get away with it, but, you know, it's an accident. He didn't mean to, but he really should probably turn himself in. But no, he's suspect number one. He's trying to avoid being arrested. So he's just like a normal dude. So it's this awkward kind of comedy where he's like, I'm so nervous, you know?

What was the name of this movie? Barney Miller.

No, Barney Thompson.

Barney Thompson.

So last person I'll talk about is Denise Richards as Dr. Christmas Jones. Christmas is a horrible name.

It is. And Dr. Jones is a Terrible thing too. Why would you do that?

Yeah, it seems like a weird, just strange, just too much. It's just too much. So she was in, to my excitement, Starship Troopers, classic movie, sci fi, war movie, satire thing. Really good. Highly recommend it if you've never seen it. I like that one a lot. She was in a movie from 2001 called Valentine. This is a Valentine's Day slasher film. There's a movie called American Satan that she was in.

Oh, I like that.

Yeah, so that sounds cool. It's a young rock band that gets hit up by Satan. He offers them, like, you know, success and all the classic thing. And it seems to go well for them. They take it. But then there's a price. Of course. It starts to go bad. They have to do like a creepy ritual. Apparently the police are trying to investigate them. The singer gets put in jail at one point. People are always like, you could stop with the Satan gimmick. And they're like, it's not a gimmick. He's real. You know, classic Satan stuff. So didn't turn out so well for them. What a twist. More recently, she was in a movie called Angel's Fallen Warrior of Peace.

Oh, is that a church movie?

I was thinking that too, but I'm not sure. So it's probably got a nice religious angle to it at the end or something.

I bet you it does.

But it's about an Iraq war vet. His name is Gabriel, and he's called upon by God. Or maybe not God. It's just some sort of higher power who knows who it is to battle a fallen angel who's trying to raise the dead and take over the world.

Well, God would probably want to stop that, so it makes sense.

There's probably. It probably was God. Yeah, you think? But Satan might get mad, though, like that souls are coming back to life. He's getting rid of all his people down there.

Yeah, those are my souls. Damn. It is a bit of a hoarder, right?

Yeah. Well, they say no more room in hell. The dead will return to earth. Right?

They say that all the time.

Marie Kondo says a lot to him.

Does he?

Yeah, The Satan, she says that to him. See, you run out of room here. You need to expand your. Your real estate options.

What's the whole Marie Kondo thing? What she say? Like, it has to. What? Only keep what gives you a boner or something? I can't remember what she said. Like, if you.

If you, like, if you pick something up, if it doesn't have, like, within like a. A couple seconds has some kind of a connection.

Marie Kondo say

spark joy if it doesn't spark joy. Yes.

It has to spark joy. If he doesn't spark joy, get rid of it.

This chip clip I'm holding does not spark a lot of joy within.

Get rid of tossing the garbage right now.

Say all chip clips probably do not spark much joy. There's some stuff where it's like, I have to have it. My toilet cleaner does not spark joy, but. I know. But she says I should throw it away.

Your toilet thinks it sparks joy though.

If I get. Well, that's not my toilet's choice. It's my choice. Yeah, it should buy its own toilet cleaner if it wants to spark joy. That's what I think.

I agree.

But yeah. So Satan has to constantly go through and like he's checking out all his souls and has to go, man, is

this sparks joy in his heart.

This one doesn't spark joy. Let's send it back up.

He can become an undead beast. Yeah. The movie looked bad. I watched the trailer. A lot of monsters running around, but they're all like gray cgi, bad CGI looking. There's like a troll looking guy, bat looking guy, a dog looking guy. But they're all kind of the. The similar vibe. So. Yeah, I don't know. It looked bad. Looked pretty bad.

Kind of like that early Xbox 360 days where everything was on like Unreal Engine 3.

Yes.

And all look the same. Yeah.

That's a very. That's a great comparison. It's like, wow, you didn't.

Thank you, Terry.

Yeah. Perfect. It's perfect comparison.

It's honestly not spot on. Wow. It looks like it was made on like Xbox360 graphics or maybe even just Xbox. It probably was made in Unreal Engine 3. Those CGI monsters. I would go and be surprised. So some fun facts about the movie, huh? So apparently there was a scene in this that was actually filmed around the MI6 headquarters.

The real MI6 headquarters?

Yes. MI6 push back.

MI6 is the real thing.

Yeah.

I had no idea.

Yeah. Apparently, according to this I have to be trivia.

It's. It's Britain's FBI, isn't it?

I have no idea. I know, I know the CIA is in these in the movies and they especially the newer ones. But I didn't know if MI6 was a real thing or it was just something made up for James Bond. Diverse.

Yeah. They. They were pushing to deny this because they thought it was like a security risk, but the Foreign Secretary took the film side, stating that after all Bond had done for Britain, it was. The least we could do for Bond

is let him film around in my six headquarters.

Is there. Is there a big sign out front that says, like, MI6 here?

It's like a.

One of those animating neon signs. It's like.

Yeah, I thought that was weird that they added that in the film, but that's a real sign. Yeah, yeah.

So smoking cowboy out front.

There's a cowboy out there.

Big. The big smoking cowboy neon sign.

Oh, okay.

Tip in his hat, smoking a cigarette,

saying that the Mi6 is here. He's, like, pointing down.

Yeah. Nothing says Britain like a smoking cowboy.

Smoking cowboy, Yeah. I mean, Britain's like the original cowboys. They are. So Denise Richards was attracted to the role of Dr. Christmas Jones. How could you not be the name like that? I would be intrigued. I'll be honest.

My eyebrow would raise.

I'd read the script, at least a little bit of it, to figure out what the deal with Dr. Christmas Jones.

I wonder if she skimmed just to the end and saw the last line of the movie.

She was sold, and she was sold immediately.

She's like, oh, Christmas only comes once.

I like that. What kind of film is this?

Yes.

She found the part to be brainy, athletic, and had depth of character.

What she thought, that's what she said. Is this when she was married to Charlie Sheen at the same time?

Oh, God, I don't know.

It might be.

Yeah. And she thought it was a great change of direction from previous Bond Girls audiences.

She's the Bond girl. I guess she is kind of.

I think there's two Bond Girls and they kind of switch gears on me in this.

Yeah.

But it's like, I think I know what I'm getting into. And all of a sudden, a new Bond girl shows up. And I go, oh, and what's her name? Dr. Christmas Jones.

I think there's, like, almost, like two to three Bond girls now in, like, each of the movies. Like, there seems to be.

Yeah. I don't know. Sometimes you can tell, though, like, the doctor in this film. I knew it was not gonna be the Bond girl.

Right? Yeah.

Moneypenny. I'm like, yeah, there's no way she's the Bond girl. But then there's, like, the girl that's been hanging out with Bond for the first half the movie. I'm like, well, obviously.

And then he has sex with.

Yeah, yeah.

But the same thing happened in the other one, where Terry Hatcher. You think she's the Bond girl.

And she gets killed.

Yeah. And. And it's Michelle. Yo. Could possibly be. But he doesn't really actually hook up with her. So it's probably.

They kind of make out, don't they?

It's probably shower together.

They shower together on the street.

Yeah. It could be the, you know, the teacher, the language teacher.

That's not Bond girl. That's just a Bond girl for a quick.

For a quick minute. So it does seem like they have multiple Bond girls eventually in these movies.

This is a bras.

Probably the way that, like, you know, like, you know, a lot of, like, you know, the superhero movies and stuff, they'll start, there's one villain in the first one, and then they'll more like they're like, oh, here you go.

You'll have three Bond girls in this film.

Yeah, yeah. Plus, we're gonna throw in all the, you know, the will they. Won't they. With Money Penny the whole time.

Yeah.

On top of that, which I gotta have that. If I was Money Penny, I'd be like, I am not going anywhere near that dude. Yeah.

So, yeah. Audiences did not agree with this idea of it being a great change of direction for Bond girls, and many consider Christmas to be the worst Bond girl.

I don't know why you would say such things.

I don't know. I haven't seen enough Bond to tell you if that's true or not. But this is the first Bond movie to win a Razzie for the same reason. But Razzie's taking her to leave it. You know, that's kind of a stupid thing. Yes.

Being mean for the sake of being mean.

Yeah. It's like, what's the point? We can all agree that she wasn't very good, but do we have to make. Give her an award for it? No. You can all just silently nod and go, yeah, we know, we know.

I mean, I thought she was better than Terry Hatcher.

No, no, no, no.

I don't think so.

Keith 3. Hatcher's character is much more interesting, I thought. But we can get into that later because I got more fun facts.

Okay.

Jesus. We're still in deep dive, Grace.

Yeah, I'm not done yet.

Yeah, come on.

That's why I thought I heard the Stinger again. My bad. Sorry.

So, According to a 1999 article in Entertainment Weekly, at the time of the film's release, studio executives were worried that the Bond franchise was not drawing a younger crowd.

So they had Goldie in it.

Yeah, that's who Denise Richards is.

No, that's the guy with gold teeth. He was a DJ and a rapper at the time. Yeah, that's what he.

Isn't it?

No, his name's Goldie.

Oh, Goldie.

I thought it was tricky. Yeah, no, probably is.

They put Denise Richards in it to capitalize on the youth.

Yeah.

So Dr. Christmas Jones is a very youth centric character and very youth centric. Sounds like something like a 90 year old man would make up. But the film did go on to GROSS A record first weekend opening of 35.5 million.

Okay.

For a Bond film. This is a Bond record. And then there's about 10 million more than the previous two Brosna films. And a lot of analysts at the time credited the inclusion of Denise Richards as the reason for this.

Really?

I'm like, really? Okay. I guess she was popular. I don't really know. But she was highly recognizable to younger crowds. That's what they say.

Yeah.

And then my final fun fact here. You might remember Roger Spotty's Wood from last week or from a couple weeks ago. The Tomorrow Never Dies director, he was asked to direct this as well.

He said, hell no.

Yeah. Literally.

Yeah.

He said he would turn it down because he was tired after the chaotic production of Tomorrow Never Dies. He's like, I'm never doing that again.

God damn it, Terry. That was close.

It was so close that we forgot that it was still going.

Yeah. Known throughout the music industry as the King of Jungle, Goldie is an artist whose ferocious creativity knows no bounds. Born and bred on the breakdancing and hip hop culture he absorbed during trips to the States in his youth, Goldie was a graffiti artist and album cover artist before receiving the backing to record his first track, Terminator in 1993.

Terminator. Yep.

That's. That's the official publicist write up on IMDb for Goldie.

Wow. He's made some cool stuff.

So according to 007james.com well, I trust it. There are like. I mean it's. It's like almost endless amount of Bond girls.

Huh?

Like I'm already up to number 60. Is Caroline in Golden Endless.

How many? How, who, how do you get counted? Is it just anyone Dragons Bond flirts with?

I. Yeah, completely. List of all the James Bond girls in chronological order from over 50 years of the movies. Bond girls a love interest or flirtation of Bonds, of which there have been 75 so far.

75 Bond girls.

It's like three per movie.

Yeah. So Terry Hatcher counts as one of them.

Yeah.

Michelle yo counts as one of them there. Professor. Professor. Ingra Bergstrom. That's the. The Danish lady. She counts.

Okay.

What?

Christmas Jones is one.

Christmas Jones should count, but I wish

Electric King is one.

Yeah.

Oh, and Dr. Molly Warm Flash.

Who?

I didn't know that was her name.

The doctor.

Yes. Her name is Dr. Molly Warm. Warm Flash.

Who's writing the names for these characters?

I think they made that up afterwards because he doesn't even. Does he even call her maybe calls her Molly at most, I don't know.

Dr. Warm Flash. Come check my shoulder, please.

Is that who's Dr. Oh, from this movie?

Yes.

Yeah. The doctor he sleeps with in order to get, you know, medical clearance.

About that Christmas Jones and Warm Flash. What a weird series this is.

I'm gonna tell you what. I watched all five Craig Bonds. All the Craigs were primo and all. They all kind of work together as one coherent story in a way, really.

Which is one. Yeah. It's the one thing that none of the rest of the Bond movies do. It's. They're not. None of them are really all interconnected at all.

And Keith's favorite, Blofeld is in three or in four and five. I mean, Blofeld's in one of them, Blofeld's in two of them, and Blofeld. I'm. I am not kidding you when I say that Bond is Batman, Blofeld is the Joker. It's a hundred percent what it is. And it's. The Spectre has psychological games set up by Blofeld to destroy Bond. It is. It's. It's wacky. It's good.

They're good.

Yeah, they're really good. The. I think Specter is the weakest link in all of them, but he's still a good movie.

So the second to last one.

Yeah, that's the fourth one. Yeah. Okay. Do recommend watching them all. They're long. Each of them is like two and a half hours. But worth it.

I'll get to them.

I'm.

I'm working my way. I. I've watched Dr. No and from Russia with Love.

You got like another 23 to go.

Plus the ones we've done here.

I watched goldeneye last week. I watched Gold Knife. There's a prep for this one. Did not like it very much. I know it's supposed to be pretty good. I've been trying to do my Bond homework too. I have Quantum of Soless right now on DVD from the library. I need to. I need to watch that one.

Oh, do we need to talk about the world? It's not Enough.

I don't know if I want to.

I don't know if I really want to either. I. I'm did not like this movie.

No. I had a hard time paying attention to this. It was so boring.

Yeah. There. There's a part where I'm like, is this better than the other Pierce Brosnan movie we watched? No. Then Christmas Jones happened, and I'm like, this movie sucks.

What's going on?

Yeah, I was all in on. This is better than last week's movie. Until the last, like, two lines of the. Wait. What?

It's been the Casino Royale.

Oh, no. I'm sorry. No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Two movies ago. I forgot.

No, Casino.

Casino Royale is. Casino Royale is probably my favorite of the Bond movies overall.

Yeah.

No better than the other Pierce Brosnan one we watched until the last two lines of the movie that ruined it. Yeah.

You think that Christmas only comes. I thought Christmas only came once a year. You thought that ruined the movie?

You know what?

No, it dropped it below the other one for me.

Yes. Wow. That was the. The anchor that sunk it.

Yeah, I. I'm so. I mean, like, I kind of like the fact that, like, they. They kind of turn it around on Bond in this movie of. He comes in and he accuses Electra of being, you know, behind the whole thing and, like, goes, you know, Stockholm syndrome type whole thing. And she's like, you did the exact same thing. You slept with me to get information and. Yes. You know, to get closer and, like. And leaves him kind of speechless and all. And I kind of thought that was really, really cool.

Yeah. She's a psychopath. Yeah.

Yeah. And she kills her own dad. You know, all these other things. There's a couple cool action scenes that I really liked in this, but. Yeah, like, the. It's the cheesiness. Not just the whole line of, I thought Christmas only came once a year, but also with M and Q and all them, like, sitting in the room watching the footage of it and, you know, just seeing him being. Why is he getting redder? What the.

Yes. I did not like that.

The tone is all off. It's all off.

I. I knew it was going to be a difficult movie when James Bond drove a boat down the street.

Yeah, that went on for way too long.

And then. Okay.

Yeah.

Does the.

Did the boat have wheels as well, or is he just hitting that jet

and it's pushing the jet and it just drove down the road and then a hot air balloon exploded.

That part was.

Okay, you tell me how A hot air balloon explodes.

She shot the propane.

Yeah, but how does the balloon part explode?

It's highly flammable. They're like gas going up.

It's hot air. It's not a. It's not a hydrogen balloon.

Is it not like some sort of flammable air?

No, it's just hot air. That's how it works.

I don't know. I feel like it's explosive.

No, hot air balloon is literally. They got that little torch that heats the air, hot air rises, and that's how hot air balloon works.

You're telling me they're not using it for gas?

It's not the Hindenburg, Terry.

Hot air balloons, they're heated by propane burner, making it less dense and lighter and cooler. Denser than the denser air outside. Okay, yes, but I.

Flammable.

No, but because it's con. It's. The propane tanks are what's shooting up there and making the heat go up in there. So when she blows up the one, it just goes straight through the tanks and goes up into the balloon and blows the whole thing up.

That is not what happened. The tanks were on the side of the balloon on the basket. There's a burner that burned. Like, aren't they connected to the burner, though? Yeah, it's like any other thing that burns propane. The propane goes into the burner and burns. It creates heat. It's not putting. The balloon is not filled with propane.

No, I'm saying. No, I'm saying. No, I'm saying, though, like, the propane tanks are connected to the thing that's.

Yeah, and they shut the propane.

So when she shows. When she.

Propane tank and it just shoots the air. The propane out.

If she shot the propane, it would explode.

Yes, but wouldn't it explode, like, all the way up? Whatever little tube is running into the main part of it, then it's not

going to explode the balloon. There's not like, prop.

It would look boring if they didn't blow up the whole balloon and if it just continued to fly.

But the balloon isn't like, there's that, like, propane in the balloon. It's just. There might be. No, there's not, Terry. This is not how balloons work. And when the balloon exploded, I guffawed. Guffawed. Because it. It. There's no reason should have blown up. This is.

This is like that moment with the airplane never dies. You did not like how the airplane guy went flying out of the plaque of the airplane. Into a new airplane and exploded it. Yes, that's exactly like that.

A.

A.

In that situation, a man was ejected from an airplane and then pierced the steel of another airplane with his body. With his body. With his head. Head first, then body into a seat and then caused that plane to explode. So that was bad. This is bad. But the guffawing at the balloon exploding was the second guffaw in, like, less than a minute. Because she goes to escape on a balloon.

That was a horrible idea.

You don't have. Like, you just stand there and watch her, like, kind of slowly.

Let's just follow her by car and. Or by helicopter. Yeah. I could just probably walk and see her for miles.

It's not like she stole the balloon either. She had it, like, prepped and ready to go.

Well, no, she stole the balloon. She killed the other people that were ballooning.

Yeah, she did.

Oh, I thought she walked up and, like, was like, she pulled up.

I thought she liked the balloon at gunpowder point. And then.

Couldn't you just shoot a hole in the balloon and then it just comes down?

Yes.

Oh, but it would explode if you shot the balloon, so you can't do that.

He's hanging from the balloon. Like, you're not going to get away. I'm holding onto this balloon. You could almost hold onto the balloon from ground level and keep it from.

Tied to a car in your.

Yes, but whatever. She tried to escape via balloon and. And then she chose to kill herself by blowing up the propane, which caused the entire balloon to explode.

Does she count as a Bond girl?

Oh, he flirted with her. No, he didn't flirt with her.

Yeah, he did.

Oh, he. He was making eyes of her.

Oh, she doesn't list they. She's not listed as one.

But he flirted with her, though. She's. She's like a half a Bond girl. Dang.

Almost Bond girl.

Did nearly.

Oh, wait, when he says he can protect her, that's the flirting part. Yeah.

Well, that's his idea of protection with his penis.

I wouldn't be surprised if that was. Yeah.

I thought that the. What you call the fan boat things coming down. I thought that was pretty cool. They were kind of pointless, though, after a while.

Well, down like the ski slope.

Yeah.

Why would they float these? Where do they come from? How far did those things fly?

So that's the other thing. Like, they get.

They're.

They're called something later on, too. When that guy.

Yeah.

Is.

It don't matter which.

Suddenly what they're like, suddenly like some weird Lava cave. I. I did fall asleep at one time during this movie.

I woke up.

My wife had paused it for me.

Right.

That was very nice of her.

Yes, it was. And I woke up. I rewounded and watched the re. Watched, like, the 15 minutes I had missed, but still wasn't helping me with some of this. I'm like, wait a minute, how do they get to this thing here? And who are these two guys? And he shoots one, burns the other guy's hand.

Why were they flying on those jet skis when they could just use the jet ski?

Yeah, the Snowbill. I don't know.

Oh, yeah. I guess if you wouldn't use a jet ski on the snow. But, yeah,

they're supposed to be sneaking in, but it's very obvious. It's a. Yeah, it's a. A fan boat.

There's like five of them just come over the horizon.

Yeah. You hear the fan boats being dropped in by parachutes. They stick out like a sore thumb. How did they even get air?

How did they get air?

I don't know.

They must have been dropped off from somewhere.

Why? Why?

Like a Shield Herald helicarrier flying above, it just flew off.

You know, they probably. They probably just had to go off. They probably just had to go off a cliff because at the one part he stops, the one, it flies off a cliff and then it dispatches a second parachute and starts flying away again.

The beauty of that is it was falling off the cliff and I'm like, oh, it's a throwback to On Her Majesty's Secret Service.

Yeah.

I can watch somebody fall off a cliff all day. And then it, like, like, ejected a parachute and then started flying. And he's. Ed Bond is like, what?

Oh, my God, Are you kidding me?

He was gonna snip his gadget game up. Jesus. All I got is a credit card that opens door.

Yeah. Why didn't you give me the bagpipe machine gun? This would have been.

Why was the bagpipe machine gun displayed it. I liked.

I liked that. That was a very long scene of that guy playing the bagpipes. And then he uses this other machine gun and flamethrower. It was funny, but it has no bearing on the plot. He doesn't use it later?

No, it doesn't come back. It's pointless. And. And that whole Q scene. And when. Then John Cleese is the young Q coming in. I get. It's, like, all supposed to be this comedy relief scene.

It's stupid.

Sucked.

It doesn't match. It's so Goofy. Like this movie doesn't know what it's trying to go for. I feel like it was.

That was so bad. God bless. It was that bad.

Yeah. What was the. What did he get out of. That was like a car that was basically the whole thing and a boat.

And then it's like, oh, yeah, he stole. That was. That was a retirement fishing boat with rockets on it.

It was.

Yeah, that's what he said.

Okay, Q, where are you?

It just. It's whack. It's so whack now.

What wasn't whack, though, was the helicopter with the giant chainsaw on it.

What was the point of that, though? What. What does that sod. What is it used for?

It's not gonna saw anything because I

don't care what it's used for. It looked awesome. Chasing people around, cutting up.

It's for cutting humans, I think. Yeah.

It was a very video game sort of of boss moment.

Saws on a helicopter. Yeah. Who?

Like, four saws.

Here's what they needed to do was put a saw on each blade and they're just spinning.

Like the. The blades have mini blades on them.

Yeah, exactly. All right.

I can deal with that. That's more.

I thought that. I thought that thing was awesome, but

I don't get it, though. Like, I. I didn't. It happened. It made me laugh. I was like, why? What is this? What is it from?

I think it's like a deforestation tool. But, like, not real. No way. It actually is something people use. Right.

It's what whatever Electric King's dad was into, like, his empire.

But, like, it wasn't shown at any moment prior to that. No name.

They're like, oh, Bond is still alive. And next thing you know, they're attacking with this helicopter thing and taking out the. Taking off. Taking out the Caviar King.

Oh, my God. It's real.

But what is it for? What's it used for, Terry?

I'm looking at pictures. Sorry.

Being awesome.

Aerial trimming. Yeah, for being awesome.

The blades are vertical, though, so clear view.

It's trimming for. So you have to need to make sure you have a clear view of pipelines on the ground. These guys will use these saws specifically built for rough conditions, allowing to operate all year. Okay, that's great. For what purpose? Okay. It's called the hela saw, and it's a hella saw. The blades, they cut larger branches, so they just. They're trimming the trees, making sure, like, the wires don't get, like, you know,

like clearing a path for Pipeline. That's what it's for.

Yeah. It was Hella's awesome is what it was.

Yeah, that was Hella's awesome.

But it was never demonstrated at any point previously.

Nope.

So it does feel fake. It did feel fake.

Yeah. Here comes a saw. Here comes a helicopter with four saw blades in a V formation and just chop it up a building.

So much of saw blades laying around.

I guess our roof is destroyed, but at least we have four good walls.

It cut through. It cut through cars.

It cut through everything.

Buildings. Yeah. I loved it.

I mean. Yeah. I guess in that regard it's cool, the fact that it cuts stuff, but,

I mean, it may have been my, like, one my favorite things in the movie.

That was your favorite?

I love it.

I might have to agree with it. Might be the best thing in the movie.

Yeah.

I don't know. I mean, I don't know what was better, I guess.

Yes. Name a thing better than this.

I like that. I like the air balloon exploding.

I did.

I thought that was fine.

I don't know any jokes. I don't know any jokes about doctors.

I can't think of anything that was good in that movie.

I'm trying to think of stuff I liked. Let me think. Just give me a few moments to

think about what you think of something, Terry. And while you're thinking of stuff, I'm

gonna go to check out our sponsors.

I'm gonna discredit the balloon exploding one more time. Get this. Hot air. Hot air doesn't blow up.

I can think of at least two things that were interesting in this movie.

Okay, Please. What?

Never mind.

Are you talking about Denise Richards boobs?

She was wearing a weird outfit. Yeah.

And she did get really wet at one point.

Lara Croft style.

Yeah. Very Lara Crofty. I can tell you what wasn't interesting. Her acting.

Horrible.

Holy cow.

All the acting. And this is bad.

Yeah.

I mean, she was never. I don't think she was ever a very good actress in the first place. And they put her in here and they're like, hey, you're gonna be the super smart lady.

Yeah.

The way she runs sometimes. I'm like, what is she doing?

What? What. What are we doing in general? Why are we watching this? That was. It was rough. This is a rough one.

Here's what I like. I like the general concept of the villain with the bullet in his brain.

Yeah. That's kind of cool.

I like the general conceptual pain. Yes.

The deeper he ends up being more like. Like the henchmen.

Yes.

And I like the reverse Stockholm syndrome.

Yeah.

Like, Bond accuses Electric King for being. Being Stockholm Syndrome, but it's really bullet brain. Who? Stockholm.

Sy. He becomes.

He's in love with her. She's. Yeah, I like that. That's kind of cool.

There's a good ideas here, but they don't get explored at all. No, because it's like, oh, this guy's like an nihilist. He knows he's going to die and he's getting, you know, worse and worse as he. And he's gonna destroy everything.

Yeah.

But I guess all he's doing is trying to raise prices for gas.

Yeah, exactly. I'm dead anyway. Somebody.

Yeah, well, you're not gonna burn the whole world down. You're just gonna raise gas prices.

Did you not. Did you not like the thing where they were flying down the pipeline and he stopped?

No.

The nuclear missile with his feet.

No, didn't like that.

Most scenes with Denise Richards I didn't like.

Yes. Once Denise Richards was introduced in this movie, it plummeted.

Can. Can I just say, halfway through the film is way too late to introduce the new, like, main character of the film. I feel like.

I don't know, it was the literal. Like, halfway through the movie is when Dr. Christmas Jones fumbles her way onto the screen reading her lines that were clearly printed on a card held right behind the camera. Oh, boy.

I didn't like her very much. Electric King's character I did think was interesting. I wish they would have just like, gone all in on her a little bit. Yeah, same with.

Yeah, because I liked your torture.

That might be.

Oh, yeah, that was. I did like that.

The chair was pretty cool. I'm like, she's gonna kill Bond. And then we get the caviar guy.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

I don't like God in his cane, shooting the lock off the arm.

She didn't notice that he did that?

Yeah.

Wow. He must have really hated you. Look what he did. He shot the thing off and he

winked at Bond before he did it, too. She didn't notice that.

That's pretty suspicious.

Yeah, I'd be invested.

You mean when he could have just shot her instead with it?

Yes. Crawled over and unlocked his thing.

I think he died with his last breath shooting that bullet.

No, he didn't, because he smiled afterwards.

Oh, was he still alive?

Yeah, he's probably still alive to this day.

I bet he is still alive.

That character lived through the whole movie.

He's been happy ever since.

Yeah, he's like, thank God they're Both. She's dead and Bond is.

He looks a lot different.

Not disgraced. I don't know what Bond happens at the end. He's. I guess he's the hero.

He's doing fine. He's hanging out with Christmas.

Christmas Jones. Yeah. There's only one body. I thought Dr. Jones was there, too.

Oh, my God. Why are they even creeping on him?

I. I do. Like, I did. Like, the whole. He is trying to explain the Stockholm syndrome thing and she just turns it back on him. It's like you do the exact same thing. Like.

Yeah.

I thought that was kind of cool. I kind of wish, you know, because they explored the fact this. And again, I. I haven't gotten through all the ones leading up into this, but, like, it's kind of the first time that I've noticed that anybody has stopped and told Bond, like, hey, you're not really that good of a guy.

Yeah. I like it when they address that.

You're not, like, you're a hero, but you're. You're not really. Like, you're the hero of these movies, but you're not a good guy. You're a. No, you run around, you kill people, and you.

You're crazy narcissist with the license to kill.

Yep. You use people to do what you want.

And he does do that for the

greater good, but he uses people nonetheless. You know, that's a great thing to explore, but these movies don't feel like the right vehicle to do that if you're not gonna go all in on it.

I guess Daniel Craig movies do a good job.

Yeah. Like, that Christina Row was, like, very interesting about him being a blunt instrument that kills people and stuff. I thought that was good. But this one is, like, this is not the place for that.

Yeah. These movies are more like driving a boat on the street.

They're campy.

They're. They're campy, but. And they're not

fun.

To me, at least they're not fun.

They're not.

I'm sure people love them. I. I just. I watch them just like, Jesus, like, this is a movie. Like, if I never saw again, it would be too soon.

Yeah.

So that's like your. Your comment, Derek, you know, several times over this month of how he's one of the most. You know, he is loved Western civilization characters for book and film. But, like, I've. We've watched now four movies, and I've watched a couple more on my own, and I've only found one of them to be, like, something I would want to see more of.

Yeah. I thought the Last and Be One was interesting. I. I see. I think there comes a point where the novelty of Bond has worn off, and they're just trying to ride what Bond.

Yeah.

Was made. And it's like, well, if it worked in the 60s, it'll still work in the 70s. If it worked in the 70s, it'll still work with 80s. And it worked for three. It's three decades of success. We don't need to change anything for the 90s. And it's just like. I guess it just. It. It just. I don't know if we're just savvy film viewers or if it just sucks and. It just kind of sucks.

It kind of feels like at least this one to me, felt like a very. It was very coasting on, like, ye. Like the most generic thing possible. You know, they didn't try very hard to do anything.

No, it might not also be that we're savvy film.

I know, but we are savvy.

No, but we have the benefit of, like, we're, you know, like, hindsight.

Like, we do have hindsight, and we.

So we've seen, like, you know, the cool modernization of the Bond movies with the Daniel Craig stuff.

Yes, that's true.

Versus all these other ones, which are. It's like a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy because they're all following that same basic formula. Like, I remember watching Dr. Noah one time before, and I rewatched it. I actually didn't care as much for it this time around. And there's other stuff, like, as I'm watching, because I'm trying to figure out, like, okay, where does it come in that, like, Bond is, like, super cool? Or where does it come into where, like, they start doing, like, these big giant, like, like, crazy schemes of taking over the world throughout the whole thing and stuff like that. And I've yet to, you know, I've yet to figure that out. I'm still very early in the first ones. I think maybe, like, Thunderball might start with that.

So what's funny is, like, so these Pierce Brosnan ones, both the villains that we've seen were. Didn't really care about world domination. It was. It was capitalism. It's like, I want to make more money. And this one's. I want a pipeline that makes more money. Like, okay. Right. Yeah. You know, maybe it's because we're surrounded by a world of Bond villains that it's, like, equivalent to this.

Yeah. Like, we know.

Seriously, like, we're Inundated with news on a daily basis of people that are equivalent to these Bond villains. They're just doing shit to make more money. Yeah, that's right. Like, maybe it just. Maybe it doesn't phase me anymore. I'm like, well, okay, just join the ranks of another shit bag.

Yeah, right. Like, kind of nice about Casino Royales, even. The, like, the villain in that was, like, kind of a pawn in the big rich guy scheme, you know? He wasn't even. You're trying to get out of debt from the big rich guy, too.

Oh, did we do it?

Yeah, I don't want to talk about it anymore.

The World is Not Enough, which is the Bond family motto.

Yeah, I saw that. That's weird.

He says it in the movie. It's my family's motto. Is it really? The World is Not Enough. What a shitty motto.

It's a weird motto to have. Yeah, it's.

It's a motto of a greedy billionaire is what it is.

Motto is, the World is Enough, people. We have enough. It's fine.

Your world is enough. Just enjoy what you have. God damn it.

Yeah, be content.

Well, what do we think? What we think of the World is not enough from 1999, which was one year before a Winter Olympics, or. No, I'm sorry, there was a 1998 Winter Olympics.

So right after.

And this was filmed probably in 1998, so they had to put the skiing in there. Winter Olympics fever had captured the world,

so people were so excited to see more skiing. Yeah. I didn't even talk about how I was. The skiing was better in this than. It wasn't that.

It was better because it was shorter. It was definitely shorter, but still too long.

Yeah. They didn't get to show. They didn't show you nearly as much.

This movie was, what, like, what, 215 or 220? And the skiing started it with nothing and resolved nothing. Nothing changed between the beginning of the skiing and the end of the skiing.

I really don't even know what the point of that scene was.

Just. It was skiing. That's it. They could have eliminated 100 just to

add something in the trailer to get all those Winter Olympic fevered people in

the seats being like, oh, my Wisconsinites. Oh, those are snowmobiles with parachutes. Hell, yeah.

Oh, I need to get me one of those.

Hell, yeah.

Next time it snows really bad, I am gonna get a snowmobile to parachute, and I'm gonna go flying into.

With a fanboat fan at the back.

Yeah.

All right. Well, what we think. What we Think of the world is not enough from 1989.

It was enough for me.

It was enough for you. Keith is fulfilled by the world. It's not enough.

I didn't like it that much. I thought it was hard to watch. Just not like. Not because it was, like, the worst thing ever. It's just so boring. Very stereotypical. Not a lot of the acting is not engaging in this at all. I felt like. Like Pierce Brosnan's okay, but nobody else around him, I feel like, is good enough to be bouncing off of.

Yeah.

Like, all the villains are not very good. His Bond Girls are not very good. Like, I don't know. It feels like he. He's trying to care. He can't even do it himself. He can't carry it stories.

Are you conflicted by the fact that you picked the wrong movie originally and thus then had to re. Redeem yourself? And then we had to watch two of them.

Yeah. And I like this one less than the one I accidentally picked.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like this one didn't have an ice castle.

Yeah, yeah. Derek is talking about the ice castle.

I was excited for the ice castle and it never happened. Man. Watch this movie. The movie. I'm like, where's the ice castle?

Yes. And then I was like, well, at least maybe I'll remember this bank scene from the video game. And I watched it, and it's literally, like five minutes, and it's not even.

There is a big scene in the movie.

Yeah. So I was like, this is. Well, like, I was like, this is it. The game really melked this scene. I didn't even get, like, any, like, sort of nostalgia from that because I was like, oh, okay. Like, I guess this wasn't that important to the movie. All right, well. Yeah. So, yeah. I don't know. I didn't really enjoy it very much.

I had a hard time with this one. It was fine. Like, I've seen worse movies in my life. I've seen worse movies. This. This year is this one I'll remember. No. Will I want to watch it again? Never. Once is enough for me, but I think it's twice. I've seen it twice now. I think I can only assume. Thanks a lot, Terry. Wish we watched Green Lantern.

I know. I'm like, maybe Green Lantern more fun to talk about.

The wheel knows. The wheel knows.

It should. I think it was trying to help us. I think it still likes you, Derek.

Terry's very questionable with his vetoes.

Look, I thought I was going to redeem My Toronto Never Dies.

Pick.

And I like Tomorrow never dies, to be honest. But this.

Well, we know what we thought. What did the Internet have to say? On February 8th of 2009, Dave Bond

007 happens to say, I wonder what he's gonna say. Pierce Brosnan is the classic Bond. Yeah.

Underrated gem in the Bond franchise. When the World Is Not Enough first came out, many didn't know what to think about it. The film delves in. Delve is possessive for some reason. D, E, L, V. Well, delves.

It's delves.

Plot points delves into the emotional arc, or I'm sorry, emotional arch even further than the films before it, with strong female leads in a complicated plot that keeps you guessing right along with Bond himself. Was this plot complicated? No, I didn't think so.

I thought he kind of felt I could see coming.

Yeah. This film, along with Pierce's other fantastic Bond films, romance you into the lifestyle of the most dangerous spy out there. Bond must use his wits and uncover the truth behind what's happening in what could very well be the best of the Brosnan era. Parentheses though. Goldeneye is the perfect Bond film.

No, it's not either, trust me.

From exhilarating chases to lush settings, this film packs a punch as well as a more thought provoking experience than one might not be accustomed to when watching Bond films. Most people complain about Denise Richards.

Yeah.

But honestly, she does a great job and is the eye candy one should expect when watching a Bond movie.

No.

If you haven't seen this yet or you haven't in a long while, I guarantee you're in for a treat. Either way, I don't want to give away anything, so check out this fine film. You'll be happy you did. 6. Found it helpful.

7.

Not so much.

6.

7. 10 out of 10.

Wow. We're so, like hip with the youth. Yeah, I know.

We didn't need Denise Richard to help us with the youth.

No.

6. 7.

Next Bond film is going to cast us to get the youth crowd. We're the Bond girls.

I hope, I hope whoever the next Bond is, they do talk to us and they say, what can we do to make this more cool with the children?

I. I think, I think it would be cool if, like, we were like the Bond villain.

I would love to be a Bond villain.

Bond villain. Podcasters. Yes, I agree.

That's almost Teen Titans Go Esque. Well, not to be outdone, on November 19th of 1999, Scudder had this to say. Come on, what do you mean? S C U D D E R.

SC No, I'm not questioning you. I'm questioning him or her.

Well, wait till this we hear what Scudder said. Unbelievably awful. While I like Pierce Brosnan's Bond, this movie is simply awful. The story is weak. Jumping from location location without reason. When I saw the helicopter with a giant saw hanging from it, I about lost it. How lame.

At least I lost it because it was awesome.

At least that was an original idea. World didn't have many. This film even rips off other Bond films, I. E. The ski chase, the boat chase over land, and riding through a pipeline. And while I'm certainly no nuclear physicist, I don't think you can take the core of a nuclear weapon and turn it into a rod for nuclear reactor in 15 minutes. It was refreshing to see John Cleese's R. But nearly all of the humor in this film, including Khaleesi's, was far over the top. Maybe that's just typical Bond, but it's never been this bad. Robert Carlisle gave an impressive performance as Reinhardt. Renard. I'm sorry, Renard, not Reinhard. It's just too bad that performance was wasted in this movie. Robbie Coltrane reprises his role as Valentin and did a very good job. His scenes were at least entertaining in this otherwise unbearable movie.

Who was he?

Who was Valentin?

He's the mob boss guy.

Oh, yeah, the. The caviar guy.

The guy with this cane gun.

Yeah. 16 found it helpful. 13, not so much. 1 out of 10.

Wow. He had a lot of compliments at the end there for a one out of ten.

Yeah, I. I have to agree with. I know it's not a one out of 10. One out of 10.

It's not.

Is like the bottom of the barrel worst. This is not good, but it's not. It's not Cat in the Hat bad.

Come on.

We did it. We got through. DTFY2M2. The bond month.

222.

And it was February as well. And we're recording on 222, even though this will come out a couple weeks later.

Wow. Wow. There's a lot of tears.

Just. Just a convergence of twos.

This is really cool.

Yeah, it's too cool. Terry. Too cool Terry, that's your new name.

Yes. Thank you. I like that. Finally someone said it.

What we have to do now is because it's the end of the month and Keith is just a lover of spreadsheets.

Yep.

Yep.

We got to go through and got to rake these bonds. And we watched four Bonds. We didn't have a bond. We didn't have a reprieve for the bonds. It was bond, bond, bond, bond.

Yeah. Four bonds. That's usually. Does not happen with Wild Card. It's usually something unrelated.

No, it is unrelated. But this one is 100 related. And I. I have my ranking. So I don't know if you want me to go first, but I can go first.

You should go.

It goes Casino Royale. And this is undisputed. This is the. This is the order we should all have. If it's not unanimous, there's something wrong with y'.

All.

It goes Casino Royale. It goes Lazenby.

No. Oh, interesting.

It goes.

Well, you don't know the name of it. You really like the second one?

I can't even think of it. Services from 1969. Wow.

Must have made a big impression on. Yeah. For number two.

On three is the other Pierce Brost.

Tomorrow Never Dies.

I never Died. And fourth is the World's Not Enough.

Yeah. I'm. I'm flip flopping tomorrow. And Secret Service.

So you're going casino tomorrow.

Secret Service. And then world.

Then world. All right.

Yeah. I think Casinos and Casino Royale is the undisputed champion.

Undisputed Champion. That's my movie. That exists.

Genuinely a great film, even if it wasn't a Bond movie. I think it's really good. Then I'm gonna go Tomorrow Never Dies. I think that's a pretty good film in terms of just like a good action film. It's not great, but it's pretty entertaining. And Michelle Yeoh's character is kind of cool.

Then.

Now it's tough. I don't know. I think I'm. Honestly. Maybe it's recency bias of how much I dislike the World's Not Enough. But I'm gonna.

Stuff isn't good.

And I'm gonna put Honor Majesty. Secret Service from 1969. Number three. Just as. Because, like, you know, time has made the heart fonder. I feel. Yeah.

Absence.

I didn't like that one much, to be fair. But I didn't like this one either. They're neck and neck. But I'll put this one as last.

Okay. We did it. We got through DTFY2. M2. We ran. We rate our movies. We do have something else to do, Keith. We got. We got a new month starting next week. Oh, holy. And that's a. That's a Terry month.

That's true.

It is Terry month. And I'm curious. What does DTFY2 have in store for us when it comes to Terry?

Can I Can I veto this right off the bat?

You can't veto a topic.

You know my topic. I dare you. Just for that, I'm picking all Cat in the Hat films. There's only one way to watch. We're gonna have to watch it over and over again.

Oh, my God. Such torture.

Well, I'm picking is. I had. I did some debating in my brain. I kind of figured this out the last minute today, okay? Because I, like, I had a lot of ideas, and I was like, you know what? I'm gonna do this just because there's a movie that popped up. I was like, I want to watch this. So we're gonna do Shaw Brothers movies. The Shaw Brothers are like a Hong Kong, like, martial arts studio, okay. Made a bunch of movies for like.

Like, we do martial arts movies.

Martial arts stuff. Martial arts stuff. Other things they kind of dabbled in, but there's a lot of, like, yeah, martial arts movies. So it's gotta be Shaw Brothers film.

Okay?

The one I'm picking is the Supra. Hold on. The Super Inframan. This. The super I n F R A M A N Infra Man.

The Super Inframan. I have no idea what this is. Terry.

Yes. I want to watch it. It looks cool.

Oh, they start in 1951.

We are. We are doing stuff that. I have no idea what the hell we're doing.

That's our brothers.

A Terry guarantee.

They were a major studio in China. Major studio.

Okay? We're gonna. We're. We're gonna learn something this month.

That's right. That's right. I wanted to watch the Super Inframan movie, and I was like, you know what? How am I gonna fit this into a category to make everybody else watch it with me? And this is what I did. So there you go.

Oh, boy. Well, I guess we're. We're in the situation. We're at this point where there's nothing left to do but to end this the way we end everything, Right?

Everything ends like this.

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