Fumblers' Year One Review

Gathered together from the cosmic reaches of the universe, here in this great screening room with comfortable recliners, are the most powerful forces of good ever assembled. Keith.

There's one month that I felt we really knocked it out. We nailed it. 3 great movies that we all loved. And then the wheel did us dirty.

Terry. Oh no. I'm vetoing it. I'm vetoing it.

Derek. Hope no more for what today can be. And the power twins, Zap and Jordan, with their magical lemur snort dedicated to fumbling their way through movies one forgotten gem at a time. This week, we look back on the year that was in our 2025 Year One Review! This is Fumbling Through Film. 5, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, happy New Year! Hello, and welcome to another one-of-a-kind, genre-defining, Brand new episode of Fumbling Through Film. It's the only show that dares to bring together 3 dudes to talk about movies. These aren't just any movies though.

True.

Yeah, no, this week they're not.

These are the ones we've missed, overlooked, or feel are simply worth revisiting, which is pretty much any movie.

What a broad spectrum to choose from, yet still limiting in a way to say it's not every movie.

Yeah.

Oh, anyway, my name is Derek and I am a fumbler. That other one over there counting down, bringing in the new year. Or are we ringing in a new year? We're closing out the old year. Both.

Oh, I'm shutting it all down.

It's something. Anyway, it's a Prime Minister Fumbling and Film. Keith.

Hey, hey, what's up, KG? Fumbler extraordinaire, Baby New Year.

Baby New Year.

Yep.

Keith has had that little baby look to him, doesn't he?

He does. Now that you mention it.

Gummy cheeks, smooth, bald head.

Tiny.

Tiny, tiny, pooping his pants all the time.

God, and he always—

I wasn't gonna go that far, but you know, the sash that I wear and the top hat, you know.

Gets annoyed if you don't, you know. Shake his cradle around every once in a while.

Mm-hmm. Every baby loves to be shake—

shook. He likes to be shaked.

Yes.

Yeah, I like mine stirred.

Yeah, that other martini drinking baby, hey, is the Dr. Dre of Kansas, Terry.

Hey everybody, it's me, Dr. Dre of Kansas. Uh, I'm like that— I'm like the cool— I'm like teenage New Year.

New teen? New Year teen?

Yeah, teen New Year. Teen New Year. I'm cool. I'm leaning against the wall. I got some sunglasses on, smoking a cigarette. I'm not supposed to, but I am.

But you are.

Yeah.

When that countdown hit those 2 magic numbers, everyone looked at you like, oh, he's gonna do it.

What, 69?

No, the other 6 numbers. 6, 7. I didn't want to say it.

Oh, 6, 7. Is that a teen thing, really? I guess it is, because my daughter complains about everybody that just constantly does it at school.

Yeah.

And she's a teen.

Yeah.

I'm too cool for that. I'm too cool.

You see? Yeah, Terry's too cool for 6'7. He's smoking cigarettes.

I'm more—

even though most teens probably don't smoke anymore.

I'm more of an 8'9 guy. I got vape out and I'm 8'9. Check out my new thing. You might not get this, but your kids are gonna love it.

Yeah.

Oh, Terry, you know what else kids love?

Podcasts?

Our podcast.

Oh yes, they do.

Oh, kids do. We have like children as fans.

So tell them what it is we do here. But this, this month, or this week, is very different. But I'll tell you, let's let some people know.

What do we normally do here?

We normally do, every month we watch movies, but not just any movie. Every month one of us chooses a genre, a theme, a guiding light, some sort of definition, something that defines a syllabus maybe, or something that says, hey, this is what you got to do for the month. And we choose movies that adhere to that theme. And then on the 4th week, we spin a wheel that has movies that were tangentially mentioned over the, the 3 weeks. And we watch that movie the wheel gives us. And we've done that 13 times or 12 times. And then we had one month that was all wildcards.

Yeah, one mysterious month that showed up out of nowhere.

Mystery month.

Yeah.

Month 13. So we did that. And now we're at the end of the first year. And we're not starting the new year just yet. Because we, if anything, we are, we are rehashers.

Yes.

We love to talk about what we've already talked about. Yes.

Oh, God, yes.

We love to list things and rank them.

Oh.

And then we also like to also talk about the things, our misses and our foibles and our victories. So that's what we're going to do. We're going to recap our first year of Fumbling Through Film.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

I think it's very important. We're not just talking about our victories. We're looking at, we're examining our flaws this year too.

Well, yeah, it's the only way you can grow if you can look at those.

That might be what, that's the thing that might make us the most Genre-defining. Yeah, yeah, because nobody would put three guys together to talk about their flaws.

No, no, nobody wants to. Yeah, no.

And God, if you could find three guys willing to talk, willing to admit that they have flaws and put them on a podcast, good luck.

Yeah, talk about them with each other.

God, no. But here we are. We're we're gonna we're gonna look back on a historic thirteen months.

Wow.

Well. Hope no more for what today can be, because what we're gonna do—

Wow, that's kind of a cool line.

All right, new shirts.

Hope no more for what today can be.

I like that.

You can take that positively or very negatively.

Yes, I said I suggested we make those, uh, suggest we make those, uh, shirts, like a new one for each month that shows like what each month was. A little like almost like tour shirts. That could be the front of it.

I feel like it has the same energy as saying like, abandon all hope, ye who enter. I feel like it has a very similar vibe.

Uh-huh.

Hope no more for what today shall bring. Huh?

Why?

What does that mean? It's like, that's scary.

Okay, it could be positive, more likely ominous, but okay.

Seems ominous. Like if some sort of Satanist figure was whispering that in my ears, I walked down a creepy fiery pit, then yeah, I'd be concerned.

Ah, well, what we need to do now is we need to move forward from that if we can. Should we just call it there?

I mean, that's right.

Can we get better than hope no more for what tomorrow or what they can bring or whatever? I don't even remember what I said.

We'll have to listen back. I can't remember either, but it's great. It was hope no more for what today can bring, I think.

What are we doing again this week?

I want that on a, a sign on my wall. Like, you know, like those happy signs.

Oh, or like the, uh, like the football, like, all those who stay will be champions and stuff like that.

Yeah, right. And you tap it. Live, laugh, love. Or— but now I've got like hope no more for what today kind of—

You put it, you put it above your doorway as you leave in the morning.

Yes, I just look at that and sigh.

Yeah, tap it as you walk through. Yeah, cross stitch it. I almost like that cat that hangs off the wire.

Yeah, like hanging there. Yeah. But oh, we just have that cat, but then that's a quote on the top. Hope no more.

How about that cat but walking on the beach by some footprints?

Oh, but there's 2 sets of footprints.

Yes.

Yes. And he's carrying another cat. Yeah.

Yeah. The cat's carrying another cat along the beach. I love it. Let's do it.

No, we have ideas, business ideas for next year.

Yes, put a pin in that, Terry. We'll come back to it in 2026.

I'll get our Etsy shop open.

Even though this is 2026, we'll come back to it when it's officially 2026 because we're recording this in the past for the future.

It's true.

It's all so confusing.

We like to plan ahead.

We do, to an extent.

Not enough to have clips ready for the beginning of the show.

No, not that far planning ahead.

Oh God.

But we did plan enough ahead. Like by a few hours where we typed up some topics for today.

We got ideas. Yeah, got ideas.

And we're gonna go through and we're just gonna revisit the last 13 months. Yeah, 12 calendar months, 13 Fumbler months.

Yes.

And then at the end of this, we're gonna put together a list of movies that you gotta take with you. But for now, let's start with the topics. And I have them in no particular order, but this order seems to make the most sense. Since we're talking about months, what was your favorite month from this last year?

Of all 13 to pick from?

So I, like, for the most part, like, throughout the entire year, I've had this same month picked out, but then it's always, like, ruined by one thing as well.

Ruined.

And it really— there's There's one month that I thought we really knocked it out. We nailed it. 3 great movies that we all loved, and then the wheel did us dirty. Um, I'm going with, uh, Fumbler Month 7.

Uh-huh.

And that was Foodie Films.

Foodie Films.

Oh, good pick.

Yeah, I, I think our, our 3 of, uh, Big Night, Tampopo, and Eating Raúl were— that's like the best 3 of like the themes.

Sure.

Uh, Hangin' in Time and then Lone Wolf McQuade.

Like, wow, that's a— that is a ruiner, I would say. Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Lone Wolf McQuade does bring down the entire month's average by a lot. Yeah, by a lot. It is an anchor, man. It is an anchor on a short chain. It just, it just sinks your boat, man.

That boat's just leaning to the right.

But I will also say, I think it then changed Terry's outlook on movies that he was picking for the wheel the rest of the time.

It did change my mind about my choices.

There's no way you could have predicted Lone Wolf McQuade being that bad. There's no way.

No, no. I think I'm saying like, I learned my lesson. I watched it being that bad.

Like, do you think Terry, after that, he's like, I gotta make sure I pick a really good movie to land on the mat?

Well, I'm sure my picks were really great after all of those. Yeah. After that one, I'm sure they're all just really great. Yeah. It did. Like, it was kind of a wake-up call. I don't think I picked that bad movie ever since. Maybe I did. Did I? I don't remember what I picked.

I, I don't know. Now, now I need to look. So after you picked Lone Wolf McQuade, Terry, you chose Leprechaun: Back to the Hood, and then you chose Godzilla, Mothra, and King Ghidorah— King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All-Out Attack.

Okay.

And then you chose Sniper. Yeah, then you chose Talk to Me, and then After Hours. So you ended the— ended the year on a high note.

I think I did. I started picking movies that I thought might have a chance at being decent, because before that, I know I did pick some stuff.

Yeah, we had The Devil's Dog and Dracula's Dog.

You keep calling it Devil's Dog. It's not Devil's Dog.

Yeah, get it right.

Come on, come on, man.

Have some respect. Dracula's Dog.

It's, it's a made movie. I bet you Devil's Dog is a movie too, though.

I'd watch that. That sounds cool too.

But yeah, I think, I, I think I, from then, I mean, obviously the Leprechaun one is a, it's that kind of just is, it fits in with everything else we were watching that month. But, um, but I feel like after we watched that, we were all like, all kind of like appalled by Lone Wolf Quaid. That it, it did change Terry's wheel selections after that a bit. Yeah, taking an uptick.

I don't, I don't want to derail this, but 1978, a TV movie called Devil Dog: The Hound of Hell came out. Well, a dog that is a minion of Satan terrorizes a suburban family. Just one particular family. That's nuts. Gets a 5.3 on IMDb.

It's not bad for what it is. Yeah, one, one hound of hell torments one particular family. Do you think they did something to earn that, like, torment, or is it just like—

I don't know. I bet— I, I hope the devil just spun a wheel.

I gotta stick my dog on somebody. Let's see who it is.

Or there's just, uh, as many families as there are, suburban families as there are, there is a devil dog in hell, and they have to queue them up, and they can only be released like every once a year or or something like that.

Yeah, it's like who, who's, who's been bad, you know?

Yeah, bad. It's like a Santa's list, but you'll only— they release one devil dog a year and it torments a family.

Yeah, the Jeffersons yelled at the trash man because he came late and they're mad, and oh, that's a mistake. Devil doesn't like that. Send out the dog.

Why wouldn't the devil like yelling at the trash man?

You don't like that?

No, because it was, uh, the devil's disguise. He was testing him. He was testing him to see what would happen.

He's like, oh, but wouldn't the devil like— the devil's like The antithesis of good, right?

Oh, so he should be trying to go after good people.

Yeah, you'd think.

I thought the devil would be punishing them.

No, God would be punishing them, right? Oh, 'cause God's like, asshole.

God's dog?

Well, no, 'cause God wouldn't call it God's dog. He called it the devil dog because everybody thinks the devil's bad, right?

I see.

I mean, the devil is bad. Like, I don't know.

But what is his— isn't his goal to torment the evildoers of the world?

Yeah, but only when God sends them to hell though.

But he wants them to be evil. You're right.

Yeah, greatest trick the devil ever pulled was making you think he had a dog.

Yeah, yeah, really convincing parents that children would take care of a dog. That's the greatest trick a devil ever played.

Oh God.

Jesus Christ.

That's her all, yo. I don't even want to say it. I didn't want to say it anyway.

Devil dog.

Yeah, so, uh, yeah, so Foodie Month, uh, week 7. Our month—

40 months was Keith's favorite month.

Yeah, it's a great, great pick, Keith. It's a great pick. I think my favorite month was our movies recommends month because—

Was it?

Yeah, we watched a lot of good movies.

Well, we did watch some good—

we watched 2 very top-tier movies and the rest were fine. But I mean, like, that was just a fun one because it was kind of interesting to see what other people recommend so strongly, you know, like I gotta look at a list. I gotta read some interesting comments and justifications as to why. And, you know, it was fun to dig around and try and find something interesting that I wanted to see.

Yeah, plus Derek went viral.

It went viral.

Moderately viral. There was lots of good recommendations. We actually watched— we watched 4 good movies that month. Like, even Immortals, in my opinion, which was the weak link in that one, wasn't terrible.

No, I still like that. Yeah.

Yeah. It even—

even Immortals wasn't— Immortals wasn't from the list. It's from the Reddit list. That was— it was the tangential, right?

Yeah, I know. But if you're— if you're gonna say that Lone Wolf McQuade ruins Foodie Month, I can say that even Immortals wasn't that bad.

It did not ruin our movies.

No, we had 2 top-tier movies and 4 good movies altogether. It wasn't a bad month.

No, yeah, I enjoyed that one a lot. I like the— I like the category. I like the research I had to do. And I liked the movies that ended up getting picked.

I like the fact that I found out about a movie, The Fall, that I had never heard of, but I absolutely love.

Yes.

I love this movie. And, uh, I've watched it again since we've watched it.

Really?

Yeah, it's only been like a couple months. Yeah, I just really enjoyed it a lot.

Well, just gotta make sure you use those DVDs.

Yeah, that's a damn DVD that came from Europe. I ordered from a local DVD reseller on eBay and I— it went through customs. It was shipped from like Israel or something like that. Like, what is— this makes no sense. But I have it. I've watched it. It's good.

Yeah, true.

So my favorite month is not because of the movies that it produced, even though it did produce a couple of good movies. movies. My favorite month was the amount of work that went into it by our very own Terry in the trick-or-treat month. Terry produced, I don't know how, he produced one giant PowerPoint presentation.

Yes. Yes.

Like 7 different categories that revealed movies to us. And he was so committed to it that he had somebody else fill in a slide so he wouldn't know what the movies for his category were so he could be equally surprised. That's why that movie was— that month was my favorite. And we got to watch Audition, which is a very good movie.

Great film.

We got to watch Wake in Fright, which 2 of us think is a very good movie.

Yeah, a very interesting movie.

Yeah, yeah, we watched some interesting movies and we even watched Weekend at Bernie's, which was not great, but it wasn't terrible.

Yeah. That was fun. And you know what? I can save it for next time cuz I got a lot of extra slides that we didn't get to look at.

We, we, we never found out what were the other slides.

I know. I'm gonna keep 'em a secret. Oh, we'll do it again sometime. All right. Yeah.

You just have to find one person to fill in the other 3 for him again, just to, so he continues not to know what they are.

I'm sure.

And after, after like, after like 4 years, you won't know any of them. They'll have all been cycled out. Just, just keep bringing it back up.

That's true.

Oh yeah. Eventually, soon I'll have to hire somebody just to make my PowerPoint for me.

Go into Fiverr. Please make me a PowerPoint.

Uh, please pick 4 random genres.

That was my favorite month because the— we watched slasher movies, and, and I, I wouldn't call Sweet Alice necessarily a slasher. I guess it is the proto-slasher or whatever. We watched J-pop— or J-pop— J-horror Australia, A-horror, Australian horror. And, and there were other ones that were left on the table, like possession movies. Yeah, which was my— which is one I really wanted to find out was on that too, because I like possession stuff.

There's some very mysterious categories.

Yeah, like public domain.

Yeah, like the old diamond ones. I thought that might draw someone's attention. I was really hoping.

Boy, the problem is, Terry, I was overwhelmed by choice. There were too many options.

I gave a lot of options.

I'll be honest, Uh, because I see some of those things show up like on either like Amazon Prime or stuff like that. I know I wanted nothing to do with that, that category.

You know, I tried to make sure there were quality films in each category. That's all I'll say.

I keep seeing that weird Screamboat Willie or whatever it is. There's a Popeye the Sailor horror film that comes up.

I'm like, no, my God, really?

Oh, there's an evil— there's a— I just saw this last night. I was on Tubi. And there was a, a movie called The Mean One, and it's about the Grinch. Well, it's even— it's a horror Grinch thing. Yeah, a horror—

is Grinch in public domain? There's no way it's public domain.

It might be.

There's no way.

I mean, surely they couldn't make it if it wasn't.

Uh, well, unless it was like The Grinch or something like that.

Yeah, I guess they called him The Mean One. They didn't call him The Grinch.

You're a mean one.

No, The Grinch is not public domain according to AI.

Oh, so that's like a That could be a legal issue.

It's like the Grunch or the Granch or the Grouch or something.

There's that with that Winnie the Pooh Blood and Honey or whatever. Yeah, yeah, those are the ones I'm picturing. And I was like, yeah, I'm not picking that.

I've seen that, that one, and it's horrible.

I can only imagine how horrible it is.

Maybe someday we'll find out together. But yeah, that's my— that's— I appreciate that. That was maybe one to make those lists.

That was, that was my favorite month. All right. So we had our—

we—

13 months. We have our favorite months. Is there a movie that throughout our watching that surprised you? Like, wow, I can't believe how good this was. Or inversely, I can't believe how terrible this is.

Oh.

Just straight up surprised you.

Well, I'll go first on this one. My most surprising, I'm gonna say, was Triple X: Return of Xander Cage. Yeah, it was kind of a joke pick, I feel like.

Uh-huh, it was, 100%.

But I actually had a lot of fun watching that movie. I thought it was pretty funny.

It wasn't a terrible watch. It was very boring at times. Yeah, but it wasn't— it was better than Crocodile Dundee, that one thing.

So definitely, and look, it was stupid. It was stupid, but it was entertaining in a way I didn't expect. I thought it was like— it made me want to watch the other Triple X's, but then I held out because I thought we might watch them on the show.

I hope we do one day.

Yeah, we'll fit it in there somewhere.

My most surprising movie, we gotta go all the way back to month 1.

Oh, it was Noah.

I can't get over how much I liked that ridiculous dumbass movie Noah. It's a Bible-based movie with like Lord of the Rings elements to it.

Yeah.

It just, it surprised me at how much I enjoyed it and how good I thought it was.

Angels made rocks.

It set the, it set the tone for the fact that the wheel could be like, could give us something totally stupid, but it also could give us a gem.

Yeah, sure.

Hidden gem. Yeah, that's a good tone setter.

Yeah, I'm gonna say, uh, Black and Lace.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Blood and Black Lace.

Blood and Black Lace. I had never heard of whatever that genre was. Yeah, that Terry's got a guy for.

Yep.

And, uh, I was actually really blown away by the fact that I really enjoyed this, you know, style of movie that I hadn't even known about.

Yeah, nice.

Good pick, man. Giallos are pretty good. Have to watch some more. Maybe there'll be a category someday.

Oh, maybe. Would that be something?

That would be something.

Didn't we watch an American giallo? Wasn't, uh— oh, that Sweet Alice considered an American?

Yeah, it has a lot of giallo elements, that movie. Yeah, yeah.

All right, 13 months We chose— 48 movies were chosen by us. Well, 12 tangentially through the wheel. We couldn't always pick bangers. Is there a movie that you wish you would have not picked and picked something else instead? And I'll start with this.

Okay.

Mine is, even though I enjoyed it for what it was in the month that it was, was going— The Lair of the White Worm.

You don't want to watch that?

I wish I would have picked something else. It was fine. Like, yeah, it was— it had levels of ridiculousness to it. And I can't stop thinking about how bad the sound is in that movie when they're in that, like, barn or that, like, that wooden floor town, like, oh, it's a party, and you just hear the people clomping Over the dialogue. Oh God, stuff like that makes me laugh. I think of it from time to time. But if I didn't watch that movie, I wouldn't feel bad about not having seen that movie, and I could have picked something else instead, I think.

Yeah, that makes sense.

I mean, we were still feeling things out. It was second—

it was early, it was month 2.

I mean, I picked Crocodile Dundee. I mean, yeah, uh, that's not the movie that I wish I hadn't picked though. Um, no, uh, I'm gonna say Excalibur.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, yeah, I, I picked it. It was something— it was for genre-defining, and it's one that I had always associated with like the sword and sorcery thing, and it just did not live up to what I had remembered about it. And it, you know, a couple cool things in it, but for the most part, I, I just— it was not the movie I remembered it being.

I hear you.

And I probably could have, I probably could have picked something else even better for that genre, let alone, or picked a different genre that would have been, uh, well more defined by my pick.

Yeah.

Yeah. There's some good stuff in that movie though. I liked some parts.

There were some things in that movie. I think about that movie every once in a while too. It popped in my head the other day. I can't remember why. I was thinking of, uh, Merlin in his cave being frozen. I don't know why that popped in my head. It must've been I must have saw something or something there.

Some kid must have—

kid might have said something. What's that?

The Wisconsin winters.

Wisconsin winter. Yeah, if I was thinking about Merlin, how weird that character was.

Yeah, he was very strange.

Yes, kind of Yoda-like, almost. Yeah.

Well, if I had to pick a movie I wish I hadn't done, hmm, there's several that come to mind, but I mean, I'm gonna go with The one that I feel like I had high expectations for and it really, it just was not what I wanted. And that would be The Snake Pit.

Yeah.

I feel like the name really hyped me up and I wanted to be a little different. I wanted to pick a really old movie.

Yeah.

Because, you know, I wanted us to have a nice range of—

Sure.

Years and of time. Um, cause we were picking, that was the Oscar loser pick and I was like, well, we got a lot of stuff to pick from. So I wanna make sure we covered all our bases and I was like, oh, Snake Pit, that sounds great. And then we watched it. I was like, oh, it's really boring. Um, damn.

Yeah.

Where's all the snakes? But yeah, I wish I would've picked something different, maybe even something more modern, cuz we didn't really go that, uh, modern with our picks either. I think Keith was in the '90s and yours was in the '70s, Derek.

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

I could have picked something more modern to be different too, and probably would've had a lot more fun.

So yeah, probably. Yeah, that was a bummer because I remember going in—

By more modern, like within 50 years?

Yeah, that would have been technically more modern.

The last half century. Yeah, I, I did go into that one thinking like, this is gonna be good. It's an old movie, it was an Oscar, like it hit. Yeah, it was just—

And it's on a list saying it's a great film, but not to me.

Yeah. Oh well, maybe if we— if time is a flat circle and we come back to do this again. This, this— leave yourself a note, Terry.

Oh yeah, if we like end up repeating ourselves, like if this is like a really long time loop. Yeah, we have to like— after month 13, we have to go back and redo everything.

Just write snake pit and then scratch it out, do the little Ghostbusters symbol and put it on a sticky note and like leave it somewhere where you'll find it in the past when we go back to the future, right? And then You'll see it in like 2012. You'll be like, what does this mean?

Oh, I'm gonna go that far back and leave a sticky note?

That— when time repeats itself and you, you come through there again.

Oh, I see. Like you're talking like after billions of years when the loop has finally ended. Like, I mean, mankind—

As we rewatch the Munsters. Yeah, put it, put it inside the last Munster DVD.

Oh, that's a good idea. I'll put that in the Rob Zombie that I ordered. Yeah, that Rob Zombie Monsters movie on Blu-ray I have. Yeah, I should put it in.

Terry. Speaking of regrets.

Yeah, that is a regret.

But just write, from future Terry, Snake Pit with a line through it, and they'll be like, uh, that's weird.

It'll all make sense in, I don't know, 3 years.

When the urge to pick Snake Pit arises. Why does this name seem familiar? Well, it must be good.

Yeah, that sounds cool.

Yeah.

But now I'm gonna go back to make up for when Terry, uh, switched up and put, uh, Major Payne in one of my DVDs. I'm gonna go back and, and remove the note so you don't see it.

You're gonna take the Snake Pit note out? Mm-hmm. Yep.

Yep.

So you're stuck with it again. Oh, all because you made me, uh, because you went back in time to make sure I would watch Major Payne.

Oh, that's right. That's right.

Well, Terry the time traveler is nothing but trouble.

That's true. I use a lot of that. Just like, yeah, play little jokes on my friends.

Mm-hmm.

But I do. Terry the Time Traveler.

Next topic. We've each had 12 picks plus 12 wheel picks, but just the main 12 picks. Is there a pick that someone made that you wish you would have made?

Yes.

All right.

I, I have, I have one I think as well.

All right, Keith.

Well, I hope I'm not stealing this one from you, Derek, but I was gonna say Tampopo. Sure.

Oh yeah, yeah.

You wish you would have chose Tampopo over Big Night?

No, not, not over Big Night, just the fact, like, just in looking at the movies, like, that's one that I wish I would have picked. I don't, like, I guess I wasn't thinking of being in the same—

oh, like replacing your own?

Yeah, yeah. I wouldn't have picked it over that, but like, it's It's the one of the movies that we've watched this year that I was like, man, that's—I wish I would have known about that movie to pick it and like bring it to the table for everyone to see. Gotcha. Okay. Stuff like that. Yeah, I wasn't—I wasn't thinking of as in like oh in any specific month. You're just—oh yeah.

I wish I could have been the one to bring this to the table for everyone to. Yeah. That was a fun movie. That was interesting.

That movie. Mm-hmm. That was one of my favorites from last year. That was such a good movie.

I'm trying to think in, so in, oh, in, uh, like I wish I would've brought Alligator instead of, instead of Crocodile Dundee.

Oh, me too. God. And I could have picked Alligator too for my pick.

Except for you picked first that month. Oh, shoot. That works. No, I, uh, Tampopo was a fine pick, Keith. I wasn't saying you were wrong. I just misunderstood when you suggested this topic. I misunderstood.

Yeah, no, I, yep. I've given the answer for both versions.

Um, I wish I would have picked Sinners.

Ah, yes, that was your subject too. Your monthly topic.

That was a great pick. I like that movie a lot. It was an awesome, awesome movie. And compared to the pick I did pick, which Gemini Man, uh, Gemini Man I did actually kind of like, but Sinners was a million times better.

Yeah, yeah. Oh, better. Sinners, way better than Gemini Man.

Yeah. Way better. We just got lucky with the release.

Yes. Yeah, I mean, the timing was perfect on that one. That was—

it's almost like I could have done it myself. It was so perfect. Like, oh, I left the door open for me to pick that movie.

Yeah. And I didn't. Yeah, because I think I remember saying, can I pick something that's going to be in theaters? Because this is coming out, I'm gonna go see it anyway. Yeah. And it fits the— it, you know, magically fits the genre that we're doing.

It would— I mean, that was Like, well played by both of you. Terry, Terry, it was like an alley-oop. Terry passed it to Keith who dunked it.

That's true. And I wish I could have been the guy who dunked it.

And that was a dunk too. That was a great—

But no one's talking about the alley-oop guy. They're all talking about how great the dunker was.

Yeah, you're right. No one talks about how nice the pass was. Just put it right there for you. Mm-hmm. But that was a slam dunk. That was one of the best movies this last year. It was a very good movie. Not just this last year of fumbling, but this last year of just 2025 in general. That film.

Yeah.

Yeah, for sure. Okay, so the obvious answer for me on this is Tampopo, because I actually was going to pick Tampopo.

You literally had it picked.

I literally had that queued up. I purchased the DVD. It was ready to rock and roll. Terry said Tampopo and I was flabbergasted. I was like, there's no way. There's no way.

Which is also like, lucky you, because now you get 2 picks essentially.

But yeah, but on the plus side, it's like, yeah, technically got 2 picks even though Eddie Raul was fine, but Tampopo was—

I gotta say though, and it's— and it seems like forever ago that we did that. Yes. Um, but it also led to like one of the funniest like things to happen on shows.

I wasn't ready for it.

They're like, oh man, we're— we can pick any movie Yes.

And you happened to pick the same one. The same one. Yeah. Tampopo was mine. That was, I mean, I've been ruing that day since it happened. And then when Keith suggested this topic, I thought he was making fun of me. So.

That's very targeted. Yeah, you're right.

So every month we put, you know, we go through our 3 movies and we talk about movies and deep dive and other movies come up. And then each of us puts one on the wheel.

Yes.

Right? Then we spin this magical wheel. It tells us what to watch. We watch it. That happened 12 times. What was your favorite of the wheel movies? And then maybe also, maybe not your favorite, but what is the one that you found most surprising? And this could be the same for Terry and his most surprising movie. But what's the— what's like the wheel pick that shocked you after you watched it? You're like, oh, that's actually pretty good.

Uh, The Quick and the Dead.

Yeah, yeah, that was a really good wheel pick, and it was— I was surprised how good it was. It was good. Terry really liked that movie.

I love that movie. I thought it was awesome. Yeah, that's a great— that was a great surprise. You know, we were all kind of— Derek's wheel picks were always getting picked, and it's like, ugh. But you know what, his wheel picks usually did not lead us astray. And that was a great wheel pick, so can't complain. Can't complain. That might be mine too. I liked Quick and the Dead a lot.

The fact that we got the— the fact that it got pulled in because of Sam Raimi and because of that, the love of the game.

Oh boy. Yeah, I felt like I got redeemed.

It's how it got connected is kind of the other crazy part, like that even made it on that list.

Yeah, I mean, Noah would be a great pick too, I think, like you were talking about earlier.

Yeah, and Triple X too.

And Triple H. These are all great wheel picks.

They're really surprisingly good wheel picks.

Yes, great wheel picks that, you know, broadened my horizons and showed me what film was capable of.

Yes. I think my favorite wheel pick though was Slither.

Oh, nice. Yeah, it's a good one too.

Followed by Zardoz.

Oh, of course Zardoz was a wheel pick. Yes. That's the best.

Zardoz was a lot of fun for it, for being a B movie, bad B movie. It was a lot of fun for a bad B movie. I really enjoyed it. It was— is it great? No, but it was, it was good.

I keep thinking because it was in that genre-defining category that that was its own genre-defining movie, but it almost kind of was. Yeah, but it was.

Oh yeah, there's no other movie like that. It's its genre unto itself.

But I mean, Zardoz has like a weird place in pop culture, in like sci-fi pop culture. People like love that movie. And they— I think— I don't know if they love that movie as much as they love Sean Connery in that weird singlet. Yeah, but either way, it's true.

I've got 2 Zardoz shirts now, and I've got the— a little, um, little Zardoz— yeah, Zardoz figure hanging out on my movie shelf thanks to Keith.

So now, is there a wheel pick that didn't happen that you wish did? Do I need to refresh the wheel list?

Time Bandits.

Well, Keith has a Time Bandits because he put it on there twice.

Yeah, it seems he was desperate for that movie.

Well, no, I mean, it's— it was weird that it came up twice to be like an option.

Didn't you bring it up both times?

He did, yes. Uh, I'm pretty sure.

No, well, whatever.

Um, well, yeah, because I think it was connected to Excalibur and then to something else, or I forget what, what 2 movies it was tied into. But the fact that it came up 2 months in a row as an option, I was like, well, it didn't get picked first month, might as well put it on here. Yeah, shit, that couldn't even get picked in the wheel month when it was 2 out of, you know, 24 options. You know, it's definitely, uh, destined never to watch, probably.

We'll see, we'll see. I, uh, my pick I wish would have got— or my— the wheel pick I wish would have got picked was Godzilla, Mothra, King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All-Out Attack. I wish that one got picked because I love Godzilla movies. That's supposed to— and that's like one of the like fan favorite Godzilla movies, so I would love to watch with you guys to hear what you guys think. Have you seen it before?

I'm sure you have.

Oh yes. Oh yes. Several times.

Yeah. All right. I think, I think the one that I wish would have happened but didn't is Hot Rod.

Oh, of course.

Yeah. It's a genre. It's like a generation-defining comedy.

Yep. I agree with that. I watched that. That's probably my most watched movie of all time.

Of all time?

Yep. I watched that so many times in high school. So many times. Wow.

Which we established was like just a couple years ago.

Oh yeah. Oh, he's not.

Well, I'm, I'm, I'm, yeah, I'm the teen New Year, so I just, I'm still, you know, babyface. I'm only a senior in high school smoking cigarettes, watching Hot Rod. Yeah, smoking vapes.

Thank you. Oh yeah, not, I'm not, I'm sorry, not cigarettes, but cigarettes aren't cool anymore.

It's all vape, uh, vape-based.

Keith, I know you spread, you should, you shared your spreadsheet with us.

I did, yes.

I went through and I added a column where I added, added up everyone's rankings, right? So if it was your favorite, because every month we go through and we say, oh, this is my favorite movie, this is my second favorite movie, we rank them 1, 2, 3, 4. And so I gave everybody's— every 1, 4 points, every 2, every second, 3 points, every third, 2 points, every fourth, 1 point. So I scored them up and I added them up across.

Yes.

Then I added up all 12 months and then divided by 12, and I have everyone's average score per their selection.

Okay, let's see what it is. Let's see how we all rank.

The wheel averaged a 7.

That's pretty good.

Averages a 7. So that means, uh, 3. So the wheel— so if first place gets 4 points and fourth place gets 1 point, Right. It always averaged between a 3rd or 4th place, right?

Didn't you make fun of me for doing this once?

Yeah. And that's why I'm doing it again. And well, because I don't think you did all the math. I just, I look at your spreadsheet, I see Xs and you put them next to the winners.

No, no, no. I had them there and I deleted it off because you had made fun of me for my math the one time.

You mean I shamed you into deleting it?

No, I just assumed we'd never come back around to it again.

Well, in 4th place was the wheel with a 7.

Yeah. I see now why I deleted it.

3rd place is Keith.

Oh.

With a 7.16 repeating. 7.166666.

Okay.

So Keith's picks averaged 7.16.

Pretty close to the wheel.

Yep. Terry's picks averaged— he's in 2nd place with a 7.25.

Wow, not that much higher.

Not that much higher. Not that much higher than the wheel either. So 7 to 7.16 to 7.25.

Tight race so far.

That leaves me in first place, and I'm not, I'm not doing this to gloat, but I do— I am doing it to gloat right now. Yeah, with an 8.66.

Dear Lord. Okay, come on, your score's that much higher than ours?

Yeah, it's Apparently it is.

It's interesting. Wow, you literally like are higher than us by like a whole point.

Yes, a point and a half almost. Jeez. Uh, and that's, and that's with Keith hating 5 easy pieces, but he didn't hate as much Snake Pit, so that helped.

I really, yeah, I kind of tanked myself on that one. That's the problem. I need next year, maybe I need to shoot for higher numbers. I need to start picking more quality over—

Well, yeah, now, now if we know there's numbers involved, you may—

Oh God.

You might be less of a big swinger and more of a straight down the— down the lane, right?

Yeah. No more risk-taking.

No, keep those big swingaways.

Yeah, keep risk-taking. Keith, you keep being nostalgic and, and I'll keep doing what I do.

I just keep picking all the good movies. Okay. That's fine. That seems like it actually honestly will even itself out pretty good. Oh, okay.

Well, we went through all the topics.

Yeah.

All of, all of our topics that we wrote out about an hour before the show.

Yeah. Well, we like to plan ahead, so let's go.

But that's just the appetizer for the—

And now we're here for what people paid admission for. True. If they were paying admission, this— they'd be here for this. Let's get ready to rumble. Is inspired by— God, what's that guy's name, Keith? Stephen Schneider. Stephen Schneider has this 1,001 movies to watch before you die, and I can't remember what month that came up, whereas it feels like it's recent-ish.

Well, it came up someplace along the way, and then we just kept referencing it again anytime it, it showed up. But it was in the second half of the year.

Yeah, I, I just, I can't remember which month it was that came up because I felt like it was in like the last 2 or 3.

Yeah, it was, that was relatively like within the last couple months, I think.

Yeah, and we just went through and it kept coming, kept popping up. I, because I remember Audition was definitely on there.

I, I know once it, once it showed up the first time, I started trying to like—

I think it was Audition was the first time we brought it up. And then Frank was on there as well.

Yeah. If I saw the notes on any of the other movies, I like, I went through and, and because I think IMDb, like if you look through any like the trivia stuff, it usually had a line that said whether it was in there or not. Um, and so I kind of kept looking for it through any of the movies that I was doing a deep dive on.

Yeah. So, and then I went back and I looked at all of the movies we had watched to see which ones were on there. And there were surprisingly quite a few.

That we haven't watched yet?

That we had watched. Oh yeah. That were like 5 easy pieces. Yeah. The Snake Pit was on there.

That's on there. That's odd, but sure.

Bull Durham was on there. Naked Gun was on there. Adaptation was on there. Like we'd mentioned, there were a handful. They were like, As, uh, oh, Adaptation. Audition was there. One adaptation was, uh, Akira. Uh, what else? Tampopo was on there. So there were— there were RoboCop. There were a lot that were on there.

We've covered some high, well-regarded films.

We have covered some very well-regarded—

King of Comedy was on there too, right?

Comedy was on there. Yep. We've covered quite a few, and we've covered some that weren't, obviously. But what we're going to do is inspired by Steven Schneider. Yeah, we're not gonna do 1,001 because we only watched 52 movies.

I, I like, I, I like how I think, because everything— I think the name of the book actually is The 1,001 Movies to See Before You Die, as it's like edited, as edited by Steven Schneider. So ours is As Inspired by Steven.

As Inspired by Steven Schneider. Yeah. Now the, the name of the, the title of our list is, is pending. It's much like the Justice Gang, but I wrote, I wrote down Movies to Fumble Before You Tumble. parentheses into the grave, right? Because I like, I like song titles that have parentheses on them.

I like that.

I think that's catchy. Yeah.

Movies to Fumble Before You Tumble, parentheses into the grave. And so what we're going to do is we're going to each add a movie to the list. We're going to do this 3 times, and then we're going to each put a movie onto the wheel. And because the wheel's like the unofficial 4th member of the podcast, The wheel gets to add a movie.

Yeah, wheel gets its own pick.

Yeah. Yes. But as a wrinkle, we each get a veto. So if one of us— I'm going to say this because no one's going to say this. Let's say I'm like, Lone Wolf McQuade needs to be on the list. One of us can veto it. We just get one veto, right? Yes. Okay. And that's fine. I don't— I don't know if the vetoes are going to come into play, but they're just like— they're like checks and balances.

That's right. We don't want anybody going a little too crazy over here.

We don't want anyone going off, off the rail here.

We got to be able to hold each other accountable.

Keith, are you going to be the, uh, secretary of this, keeping track of everything?

Yeah, I can, I can, uh, I can put them in there. I got— I added, uh, I added a tab to the outstanding fumblers, uh, films to see before you fumble list here.

All right. And I think we should just go in the order in which We went all year. Keith, Terry, Derek. Keith, Terry, Derek. Keith, Terry, Derek.

That sounds good.

And then wheel.

All right.

All right, Keith. So for the very first movie added to the— and your name will always be next to it too. Oh yeah, it's the big brain that added it to the list.

Oh, I like that.

What is your first choice?

Uh, my first choice is, uh, it's, it's gonna be what I also think is my favorite movie of this year. I'm gonna put Sinners on there. Oh, I think that's top-notch. Um, the fact that it's, uh, it's one of the movies that I picked up front as well. Um, it was one of my, my choices. And also, like, I, you know, I've rewatched a couple other of the movies that I, that I liked Uh, and I've pretty much seen anything I actually wanted to see this year, and Sinners is still the standout for me. Um, I'm really hoping that it gets a lot of awards.

You know, it deserves to be nominated for quite a few awards, and if it isn't, then there's, there's a conspiracy.

Yeah. Um, for all the movies we watched, I think the, the music, the, the big main song scene in, in there may be like just visually the best thing that we've watched all year as well.

One of the coolest things I've ever seen, for sure.

And so that is— that's the first movie that I'm putting into the, uh, fumble before you tumble.

Into the grave.

Yes.

Yeah, nice. Keith has Sinners next to his name for eternity.

Great pick, Keith.

Great pick. It is a great pick.

I have a pick, and I have a feeling I'm stealing a pick from somebody else with this one. I'm gonna extend the olive branch, take someone else's olive branch, and pink it to me so that my name's credited for this forever. I want to pick The Fall.

You son of a bitch!

That wasn't my name when I said that.

That was— so Terry's name is next to The Fall, as it deserves to be. Yeah, it's a great— it's a great movie.

That's how— that's how history will remember it. Oh yeah, it's that movie that Terry picked, right? The Fall.

That's awesome. I'm picking— God, that's a good pick.

I'm picking that because, like Derek said earlier, is because it's one of those movies I'd never heard of before. And then when I watched it, I was like, wow, this is maybe one of the most perfect movies I've ever seen. This is amazing. Why haven't I seen this before? This is great. Blew my mind how great it was. And it was such a fun discovery. Um, yeah, this is like one of the— I think this genuinely— there's like a close battle between like the top Like 3 or 4 movies we watched, but this is definitely a contender.

So I agree, it is. It— I, I went through and, and graded all of the movies we watched. It is the highest graded movie that we watched, for me at least, for this last year. And it was going to be my number 1 pick. So that means I have to—

currently ranked as number 2 on my list. Wow. Yeah.

Well, you guys, so that means I have—

that's really got an argument for me as I looked at all the movies overall. Those could be worse.

Yeah, Keith didn't like the fall as much as we did. No, no.

Oh, you didn't like the fall that much? Really? I don't remember that.

No, Keith, not gonna use your veto? You better not.

God, no, no, because I knew you guys.

Yeah, then I'll be the only one with power. Yes. Yeah. Yes, I like that.

Well, I'm going to right a wrong then.

Okay.

I'm gonna have Tampopo next to my name for eternity.

Oh no, look at you.

That is a movie that— it hit all the right buttons for me. Uh, it's one that I don't know how I missed, but well, I know how I missed because it was such a weird off-the-beaten-path movie that came out when I was like a teenager, right? So it's just something I wouldn't have hunted down. I wouldn't have even heard of. I only heard of it because I did like a Google search looking for foodie movies. So I'm putting Tampopo on there with my name next to it.

Okay, you know what though, that's one of those movies that I think you guys liked it more than I did.

So I really loved it.

I'm tempted to use my— I won't though because I know you guys like this.

I was gonna say maybe because the controversy of it maybe needs to be, uh—

What's the controversy? Oh no, our internal—

you know what, you know what, the fact that It's the only movie of the entire group that we watched that both of you had the same idea right off the bat. I mean, that should get its own—

It's a historical— it needs to be in there for historical reasons. I agree.

Yeah, I mean, it has like— it has this extra, you know, you know, bit to it.

Yeah, it was a good movie. We're 3 for 3. Those are 3 good movies. Yeah, that I could watch again right now and not complain about.

Tampopo, maybe. Terry, I thought it was okay.

I really, I really enjoyed Tampopo.

What about that egg yolk scene?

That's the best scene. Wait, no, like this kissing scene? No, that's disgusting. I like, man, when he was like poking the egg in the ramen at the beginning.

That was— oh, when they're passing the egg yolk from mouth to mouth. That's disgusting. I have about that— that scene cracked me up. You guys are just— these are just poor constitutions.

Also, I'll, I'll be honest, um, it was on my short list of movies to pick for this as well. Okay. So like a few other things I had got picked ahead of it, this probably would've, uh, this would've shown up as well. I would've picked it as one of mine at some point. All right. Yeah.

Well, what's up next for you, Keith?

Uh, I'm gonna stick right with the foodie films and, uh, I'm gonna pick Big Night.

Oh, nice. Nice. Oh, that's a great pick, Keith. Great pick. Nice. That was on my list too.

I was thinking about that was the movie that surprised me how good, how good it was, how much I liked it.

That's on the same level as The Fall where I watched it. I was like, wow, I've never heard of this and it's amazing.

Yeah, I, I didn't grade it as highly. The Fall was a 96 for me. Tampopo was a 94. Uh, Big Night was an 89 for me. Okay, it's a strong B+. I really enjoyed it.

Yeah, I like the fact that it, as I went back to The Well a number of times throughout the year, it maybe the only movie that actually held up, um, unlike things that I've been waiting to rewatch. And also, I had seen it, you guys had never even heard of it, and then you guys both loved it. So yeah, the fact that I was in—

That was a great pick.

Film that you guys loved, uh, was another thing. Plus, it is like— it is a film that I really enjoy overall. And if it was gonna be on any, like, you know, list, it should, you know, of things to see before you die, you might as well Throw that on there. Yeah, I agree. You should eat them. You should eat that meal too before you die.

Yeah, what's that called again? The, the Timpani or whatever?

Yeah, the Timpani, I think, is what it was called. Yeah. All right, Terry, number, uh, your, your second option.

All right, I'm a little nervous to throw this one out here. I don't know how the reaction is gonna be. Oh boy. But I'm gonna pick a movie that I think we all should respect Even if maybe we don't all agree it's on its level of quality, and that's Zardoz. Nice.

I no no argument for me.

He's the one I'm worried about here. But I think Zardoz. Let me give my case. Zardoz is a very unique film. Agreed. Sean Connery is wearing his bandolier spandex weird like thong thing. Yes. It's, um, got some interesting ideas, maybe not executed perfectly, but very interesting. It's a thinker film, you know, it's a thinker film. And I have 2 Zardoz shirts at home, and I have it, that little figure that Keith gifted me. So yeah, I mean, come on, for show significance even, right?

And if you, if you were to tell somebody you need— these are movies you have to fumble before you tumble into the grave. It's like, you should watch Zardoz at least once.

Yeah, just think about the guns spewing out of the mouth and they're saying the penis is evil, guns are great. Think about that. That's amazing.

I agree, that is amazing.

Uh, why I don't think I could ever actually tell somebody to watch Zardoz— I think the fact that, you know, the, the amount of fun that we had like watching and talking about it. Uh, Terry's shirts that people constantly stop him saying—

they do talk about it every time I wear it. Yeah. Yeah.

And then, uh, getting my wife to crochet a little, you know, the little Sean Connery figures. It's, it's enough to make the— it's enough that I won't, that I won't pull a veto. I, it, it— I'll be honest, it was one of the— this is a bottom tier movie for me. Yeah, overall. But I, I get, I get it. Um, yeah, is that the— that's the first wheel pick to make the list then too, right?

It is the first wheel pick to make the list.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I wear those shirts all the time in public. I've got these 2 Zardoz shirts I bought, and literally every time where somebody asks me in public about it and I have to explain to them what Zardoz is, and I feel slightly embarrassed, then they go like, I'll have to check it out.

And I go like, oh no, you don't have to.

No, you don't have to.

You could just listen to this podcast called I feel like I have to, like, defend myself because, like, there's, like, a lady at Subway who's like, is it kind of like Star Wars? I'm like, no, no, not at all. Nothing. Sounds interesting. I'll have to watch it. I'm like, I see you, you know, not that regularly. I don't go Subway that often, but, like, enough to be like—

Enough that Terry might have to go to a different Subway.

Yeah, exactly. I don't want her to, like, watch it and think I'm a freak. That's the thing, right? And then you get suspicious when someone stops you, knows what it is. You're like, hmm. It's like sometimes that's like a cool sign where you wear a shirt that's really specific and you're like, oh yeah, we're like bros. But then someone stops you and is like, ah, Zardoz, huh?

And you're like, it's like a secret club.

Yeah, but it's like, it's not the club I need to be in.

They walk by, they give you a quick— they walk by, they put the fist up for a quick little fist bump. Zardoz.

And you're like, it's like the freak flag is flying. You know what I mean?

You're like, very much.

What kind of person— that makes me think, because like, I get that it goes both ways where they're probably thinking the same thing, like, why is he wearing a Zardoz shirt? When someone like addresses it and knows what it is and they're like, oh, I know what that is, and you go like, oh, like, what kind of person are you?

Yeah, but you do, damn it.

Yeah, right.

Don't judge me.

Yeah, yeah, it's my own fault for wearing that shirt out in public so much though.

All right, so for my next pick, I'm torn because I have a lot of very high-rated movies from this last year. We watched some really good movies this last year.

We did.

And we watched— and this is a really good movie too, but I have higher-ranked movies. Like, I have higher-ranked movies than Zardoz. Zardoz is in my top almost— it's like right at the middle of the year.

Yeah, the midpoint where things just about everything changes after Zardoz.

It really does too.

Well, it did change cinema, so yeah.

If I, if I read you the titles after Zardoz, you'd be like, boy, it did change quite a bit. But I'm gonna go with another wheel pick. And because I really enjoyed it, and we watched it relatively recently, and I think it's just stuck in my brain, is Slither.

Okay.

I think that's my— I really liked that movie. I really liked the practical effects in that movie. I like the comedic sensibilities of it.

And Nathan Fillion is great in that movie. Oh, he's such a good actor in that film.

Yeah. And, and then the mayor— I still have that Dr Pepper, it's the only kind of Coke I like, stuck in my brain. I just really enjoy that movie, and I'm going Slither.

It's a good pick. That's a good— I— yeah, it's not my highest ranked, but it's definitely like, it's a respectable pick. I think it's really entertaining movie.

It's a top 15. It's an 86 for me on here.

And it got us to Superman.

It got us to Superman. Yeah.

Did, did. Yeah. All right, Keith, how you finishing it up? All right, I'm, uh, some things on here that I think, I think people would know enough to have watched these movies already before they died. Um, so I can leave them off of this, our official list. Um, but then going with like, hey, you know, you really should check this movie out.

That's an interesting angle to go. Sure.

And I'm gonna say, uh, I'm gonna say Alligator.

Whoa, wow, that's a wild card.

Wow, really huge. That's below Zardoz on my list. Oh really? Wow. Yeah, everything's changed after this.

Let me look where this ranked on mine. Yeah, I don't think— I think I got Zardoz— no, Zardoz is lower than Alligator. It is lower than Alligator on my list, but all right.

It was a— it's lower.

Uh, it was a number 1 Uh, movie for its category.

It was for sure. Yeah, it's award-winning.

Now granted, it went up against White Worm and Crocodile Dundee and Pulp Fiction 3, but I wasn't expecting to enjoy it as much. But it, it hit all— it ticked all those boxes because I'm actually like all these like little nostalgic things we see. And even though I had not seen it, just ticked all the boxes for like that like '80s like weirdness, uh, and stuff like that. I— it just— it was very— it was a very enjoyable movie. Um, for me. So I, I think that's something on there, especially if I also want to make this, uh, a list of not obvious things.

I think it has to be. Do you ever watch America's Got Talent? I don't watch it very often, but I know of it. Yeah. You know when they're early on and like you see Howie Mandel like staring at that buzzer and he wants to like smack it to get the person off the stage? Yeah, that's, that's where I'm at with my veto right now.

I'm staring at that button.

I'm debating on if I should hit it. And if I hit it, it's not a personal thing. It's just, I don't know if Alligator's a movie that needs to be fumbled before you tumble into the grave.

Yeah, I, I have, I have other things that probably should be on the list, uh, ahead of it. But like I said, a few of them are I think I'm hitting my—

I'm using my—

I'll be honest, Derek, on my, my ranking, Alligator is one slot above Slither.

Really?

Wow. Yep.

That doesn't change my opinion. I'm using my veto. Sorry, Keith. It's not a personal thing. I thought Alligator was a fine movie. I just didn't think it was that good.

So, so I didn't go through and look at and, and like rank all 52 movies. I went through and I, I kind of set up and I ranked my 12, and then I, I did ranking, Derek, for yours. I did ranking for Terry's. Alligator was my number 3 on Terry's list.

Wow.

Of the things that we really— you— that was your third? That was the third best Terry pick?

That's my— on my Mount Rushmore of picks for Keith. Yeah, Alligator's face is on there.

Yeah, those ones, that was my Yeah. All right. That's fine. And all right.

So I like Alligator. All right.

So if I'm not— so if Derek's gonna veto.

Yep. I'm hitting that buzzer. Sorry, Keith. Nothing personal.

Yeah, no, don't worry. My veto will be personal though. All right. Well, I'm gonna go with The Naked Gun.

Oh no. I'm vetoing it. I'm vetoing it.

Sorry, sorry, not the first one.

I just did not like that one very much. We ain't doing that either.

Oh no, I fall apart over here. That's amazing.

Um, that is amazing.

I just— look, I— you can try to sell me on it if you want, but I don't— I did not like that one as much as you two.

Wow, Terry, there was a point in time—

there was a point in time where, like, to me, that was the best movie we watched.

Like, that was a visceral response. Yeah.

Oh, nope, nope, nope. That ranks number 42 out of 50.

I'll quit the podcast before that's on there. It's on the list.

Okay, well, uh, don't worry, I had a couple more, um, set aside here. Um, sorry.

No, now you have free rein. You can pick whatever you want now.

We're out of vetoes. Yeah, you choose Triple X.

Um, I'll be honest, uh, in the way that I had this ranked, Derek, that was, uh, that was your number 1 movie. Um, I had that ranked as your, as your number 1 overall.

Wow, thank you again. Yeah.

It's a good choice.

All right, um, I can't believe we don't keep twice in a row.

Now I'm gonna go Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.

Good movie.

Okay, that's more respectable.

Okay, good choice. Yeah, I mean, I know we just, we just watched it recently, just a couple weeks back, uh, but I, I really enjoyed it and found the movie to be awesome. Great movie. And it's a great movie. Well, uh, long overdue. Um, I know I sent you guys that link of the, uh, New York Times did the top 100 movies the last 25 years. Yep. Uh, and that was on there.

It was. Yeah.

Yep. I think that's the highest rated thing that we watched on their, like, list as well. And so yeah, I'm gonna go with that. I, you know, it wasn't, you know, it's a third choice of those, but you know.

All right, Terry, what's your third final addition to the Movies to fumble before you tumble into the grave.

Well, hopefully my final addition is I'm gonna pick The Quick and the Dead.

It's a good choice. It's good.

I think that that was one of those movies that was a surprise. I really enjoyed it. Sam Raimi does great in the Western genre, and it was such a nice change of pace from The Love of the Game that we watched. That movie was bad. And Quick of the Dead shows what Sam Raimi is capable of, and not even in horror, because he's mostly known for horror, and this was not even a horror movie, it was a western. And the acting's amazing. Um, what's that guy's name who plays the villain? Gene Hackman.

Gene Hackman, that's it.

Great performance from Gene Hackman.

Plus you get a lot— you get a young Leo.

Yeah, young Leo's in this. There's a lot of like, uh, Jigsaw himself is in it for a scene.

Yeah, so there's a lot of good in Quick of the Dead. I really enjoyed it. It wasn't my favorite, but it's in my— it's in the top half for sure.

Yeah, it's in, it's in my top half also.

So, okay, it's below Slither and Naked Gun on my list, but it's still, still good. It right now is the lowest rated movie from me that's on our Fumble to Tumble.

Number 8 on my list. Number 8.

Yeah, you really liked it. That giant hole in the head.

Oh yeah, amazing. Oh, so unrealistic. So just—

no, I think, I think of that like scene where he gets shot and he goes flying through the air at the end. Yeah. Oh, so sad. And how, how just unnatural it is, but it's so ridiculous it works. It's over the top.

You read that, I was like, this would not be how it actually works. This is just so— yeah, shut up.

All right, Derek, last official one before we hit the wheel.

My last official one That I feel you have to fumble before you tumble into the grave is a movie I had never seen going into it, but I knew of it. I knew all the high points and all the low points, and it still shocked me at how good it was. It's RoboCop.

Oh, what a great pick. What a great pick.

RoboCop, you have to fumble this movie before you tumble into the grave because it is, it is so— it's way smarter than you think it would be. A movie about, about a robot cyborg policeman in Detroit. It's just such a good movie.

It takes the material and elevates it to a high, much higher level. Yep, I agree. One of the best movies we watched for the show, 100%.

Agreed.

Yeah, number 3 on my rankings.

It's number 7 on mine, but it's very, very good. There's a lot of my top 10 that didn't make onto this list. A lot.

So it— RoboCop would have been in my top 10 as well.

RoboCop's my top 10. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon was number 10, RoboCop 7, Tampopo 5, The Fall 1, and Sinners 8.

I also had Alligator in at number 10. Really?

You had Alligator in the top 10 out of the 52 movies we watched? Mm-hmm. Dang. Wow, Keith, I did good with that one.

I really enjoyed it.

You did? I guess you did. Wow.

Well, uh, Derek, also in picking RoboCop, um, you broke the streak of 4 straight wheel movies.

The wheel's having a heyday on this one.

Yeah, speaking of the wheel, we gotta put 3 movies on that wheel. That we get. We're willing to let the wheel, the fates decide if it goes on the fumble till you tumble, uh, into the grave list. Keith, what's your wheel pick?

I'm gonna go Superman.

Nice.

Oh, great pick, great pick.

It's great. It was originally a wheel pick of mine in the first place.

My favorite movie of 2025. Not the best movie of 2025, but just my favorite.

I'm surprised you didn't pick that to be on the list already, Derek.

I was gonna put it on the wheel and let the fates decide.

I see.

I get 2 wheel picks. It's great.

So does the wheel pick have to be a pick the wheel picked itself?

No, it could be whatever you want.

No, it's just— yeah, the wheel is gonna pick this last one.

I was gonna throw my weirdo pick on this and let fate decide, but that's okay. Zardoz is fine. I'm happy to be on him.

I can't believe Zardoz is on this fucking list.

You could have vetoed it, Keith, and you didn't.

And the fact that I was kind of did it, and then Terry just like viciously— no, I'm vetoing that. You're doing that right now.

I'm gonna laugh about that for a while.

Listen, on my rate, you would agree with me. Listen, on my ranking, it's literally in the bottom 10 movies. Why would I allow that on the list? It's my bottom 10 movies. I can't let that slide.

I hear you. I did. Well, you're much interested. You could have, Keith. You could have, you could have vetoed. I didn't know if there was a veto that was going to happen. And it— 2 back to back. Yeah, we're just too polite. We're too Midwest nice.

No, I think you guys are messaging each other going, no, there's no way.

All right, Terry, what's your wheel addition?

I'm gonna, I'm gonna pick my number 1 movie. I'm gonna pick The King of Comedy.

Wow, good movie. That was your number 1 from the whole year?

Yep.

It's a really good movie. You're right, it was number 9 on my list for the '93.

Number 9?

Yep.

Dang.

That was my, uh, that was my number 1 Terry-based movie. I had King of Comedy, Tampopo, and Alligator.

All right, so my My addition to the wheel— I've got 3 here I'm staring at. I can't tell which one I want to add. I'm going to add Audition.

Oh yeah, good pick. I love Audition. That's a great movie.

Yeah, and I think it's a movie that a lot of people don't know about in any way whatsoever. It's just one that's got to be out there. I think people need to see it. I think they'd be surprised at how good it is.

I agree. I think, and it's, um, not, you know, add a little more horror to the list is always a good thing.

Let me bring up the wheel. I've got our 3 choices on there. You guys can see that, right? Superman King Comedy Audition. I doubled them up a couple of times. And as tradition has led us to this point, I'm going to spin that wheel.

Okay, and see, they're gonna be audition or King County.

Oh, come on, judge, judge, we need a ref.

Yes, the wheel has chosen audition. I, I have no control over— you saw it, it was just said click to spin. I didn't do anything.

It looked like it really wanted to go to Superman and then it kind of stopped suddenly to me. Hmm.

Well, it went to audition.

So I wonder if there's a pause button on Derek's end. He can just—

Yeah.

All right. So, um, for the first, the, uh, first annual, uh, elections, uh, into the Fumbler's Guide to Films, Fumble Before You Tumble, parentheses, into the grave, sinners. The Fall, Tampopo, Big Night, something with Z, Slither, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, The Quick and the Dead, RoboCop, and Audition.

Yeah, don't say Zardoz's name in vain.

Two of those movies came from the Foodie Month. Mm-hmm. Yeah, great month. That was a good month. That was a really good month.

Mm-hmm. All these picks, I was like, I wanted to pick them too, so I'm glad they're on there. Yeah.

Agreed. The thing is, in my opinion, we watched a lot of really good movies this month or this year.

Yeah, we did.

We did.

We did. We watched a lot of really good movies and it was hard. Like, do I just choose my 3 fave, the top 3 scored, or do I choose my 3 favorite, or do I choose like 3 that I, I think like if people were like, what's your— what one should I watch out of all that you watched? Should I tell them to watch? The Fall would be number one off that list. list. And then, and then the Tampopo, like, like, I think that's where I went. It's like if somebody said, hey, you watched 52 movies, which ones should I see that I probably haven't? That, that's kind of where I went with mine. I think we did good. I think it's a good list.

Hey, I like it.

It's a start.

Sinners, The Fall, Tampopo, Big Night. Yeah, those are all good. Zardoz, Slithered. Yeah. I'd watch all those movies again right now. If you said, hey, watch a movie again, I'd watch one of those, no problem. Yeah, Zardoz would be the toughest one to rewatch, but I'd rewatch it again because I thought it was weird.

Yeah, I'm sure you pick up more every time you watch it.

Yeah, that's awesome. All right, we did it, we did it, boyos!

991 more movies to go.

Needs to go at 10 a clip. Oh, we'll get there eventually. The AI, uh, will probably take over. Isn't that where we landed last time?

Yeah, I think we're gonna upload Terry with AI. Yep. Yeah, I'll still be alive as an old man in 90 years.

Yep, just, just talking to the wheel.

Good for you, Terry.

Oh God, yeah, the wheel has gained sentience and now it's like running the podcast. Yeah. Might be true.

It, it weirdly sounds like Derek.

Yeah, that's weird. It's like almost like Derek and it spends a lot of time together, huh?

I, I assure you I have no zero control over it. If I, if I did, all of my wheel picks would have made it.

Yeah, that would— yeah, we gotta lose some so you lose suspicion. Yeah.

Can't win them all. That's what we said about Biff, like he couldn't just go back and constantly win all those bets from the Almanac thing. He was gonna have to throw a few of them just to keep people off his back.

Exactly.

I think, I think we need a ref next year that just watches the wheel.

The wheel is the ref. The wheel is the ultimate equalizer.

Um, you know what, I don't feel like it, man. I think maybe, uh, in the new year, um, I like this veto thing and maybe it's the wheel Selections.

Maybe. Hey, that's not a bad idea. I like that. But you have to get 2 out of 3 vetoes.

Oh yeah, I think majority.

Yeah, majority veto to veto a wheel pick. I'm down for that. Let's do that.

Yeah, that's fun.

Yeah, let's do that. That's fun. That's a fun wrinkle. I like that. Okay, now Keith, you have to write this down and you have to remind us before we do every episode because otherwise, much like the popcorn bucket, I'll forget. Now, no problem. The popcorn bucket is getting folded into the year. I'm gonna write it down so I don't forget.

Next year we will do that segment. We will do popcorn buckets every goddamn movie.

We did a little test, a little trial run. Trial run.

The audience loved it. They, they were eating out of our hands when we did the popcorn.

So many emails about the popcorn buckets. Yeah, I mean, we didn't bring it back.

We're not even gonna have to wait to see the emails about the, uh, the veto because I think everyone's Got a kick out of it this time.

So I think everybody's gonna be angry that Sardoz is on the list. Yeah. Yeah.

Terry, your knee-jerk visceral veto of The Naked Gun. I didn't mean to get so— it's the highlight of the year for me right now.

I didn't mean to get up in arms about it.

Excuse me. I think it's recency bias, but it's my favorite moment. I'd like to—

I'd like to— I'd like to address the audience. I'd like to apologize for my rash reaction to Keith's pick. I know it was disrespectful. But I wouldn't change a thing.

Now we got one more piece of business we have to do. Last— the last year, oh yeah, we kind of just said, uh, Keith, Terry, and I'll go last. That's kind of how the order went, right?

I think because we're picking— we're trying to figure out what we should start with, and I, I threw out January.

Keith had an idea, right? So yeah, we went with it. Now, now that we've done a whole year and the wheel has become the 4th member of the show, Or the third to half member, because it's like part of me.

Yeah, it seems to me like you're like, yeah, you're really getting this wheel like, um, some brownie points. And like, you're like, yeah, the wheel is also part of the show. You're really giving them a step on the, the seat here on the council.

So what we've done is we're going to let the wheel choose our order for the following year. It was just Keith, Terry, Derek. Keith, Terry, Derek, repeat 12 times or 4 times. Yeah. Now we're going to let the wheel decide it for the whole year. 2026 is going to be defined by this moment right here.

Yep. The kingmaker.

The kingmaker.

That's what we should call the wheel. The kingmaker.

We see the wheel here and I'm going to do something. You guys see that, right? Yep. I'm gonna hit the refresh. Oh, there it is. It's fresh. Click to spin. Or press Control and Enter, whatever. I put Keith, Terry, Derek in that order. I doubled up a couple of times. So we're each on there, what, 4 times? 1, 2, 3. We're each on there 4 times. It's a 1 in 3 chance. The math is the same. I just like to put it on there so it doesn't— there's not 3 big chunks.

Right.

Now to make sure that we're all on, on par, Keith.

Yes.

Tell me when to click to spin.

Spin.

There it goes. And the first month goes to—

Come on.

Me.

Wow. What a crazy twist.

Month— whoa. Month 1 goes to me.

Now, here, refresh again here.

Same things here, just Keith and Terry on the list. Terry, you tell me when to spin.

Now.

There it goes.

Interesting.

All right, so that goes Derek, Keith. And then we got 4 Terrys here on the wheel. I'm just gonna spin it real fast.

Oh, weird, Derek got picked again.

Come on, land on the line, land on the line, land on the line.

And then it goes Terry.

Wow.

Remove all instances, and there's nothing on the wheel.

All right, there you go. Derek, Keith, Terry is the order for next, next year.

Derek, Keith, Terry for 2026.

I got some time to refine my picks.

You do. You have— which— and so this is funny because I've had this idea in my head since the last month I did. And that was kind of reinforced a bit by the wheel pick, one of the wheel picks from this last month. Oh, but what we're going to do is everybody needs to go back in their Wayback Machine. Okay. And they need to think of a movie. that they watched when they were younger that they thought was good.

Oh.

And they haven't seen since.

Uh-oh.

And this month is called Childhood Ruined? With a question mark.

Oh no.

Choose a movie that you saw and liked as a child or as a younger person, have not seen since.

That seems child— okay.

And we're gonna watch again and we're gonna determine, were we just stupid kids or did we have taste as a child?

So this is basically the Keith pick, is it was—

this is the Keith, the nostalgia to the extreme.

Yeah, it is a bit of a nostalgia, but it's something you haven't seen. It's something you remember. And, and I want you to pick something that you feel is like a coin toss. Like, yes, maybe it was good. Flip a coin. Something you haven't seen since, saw it like when you were a kid. Mm-hmm. I have a whole, like, just a whole chunk of movies that I'm like, oh, it could be this or this or this, but I'm going with one that always like sticks in my head. It's like, was it good or was I just like, uh, like a 12-year-old and I thought it was good?

Yes.

I'm going with The Rocketeer.

Oh, okay, okay.

I haven't seen it. I saw this movie at the drive-in.

Okay, that's, that's the last time you saw it?

That's the last time I saw it.

This is gonna, this is gonna take me, uh, some thinking to do.

Yeah, think of a movie that you saw as a kid, haven't seen it, and, you know, and by kid I don't mean like a 6-year-old. You could have been a teenager because Because when we did Sniper, that was— I was like, oh, this, this is right in line with what I want to do, uh, for the next pick. And I was kind of hoping I wasn't picked first because then there'd be some time between Sniper and this pick. But it is what it is. Let's take it. So this next month, childhood ruined, Rocketeer.

Nice, nice. I've got a movie in my head, but I can't remember what it's called, so that's like Do some Google Fu. That shows you how long it's been and I'm not watching this.

We're on to 2026, powering forward. Thank you everybody that listens to us and made it this far into the year, into this episode. Really appreciate it.

Thank you. Thank you.

This podcast is a lot of fun to do. I don't know if it's— I hope it— hopefully it comes across in, in the audio format and you can hear how enjoyable it is, but it's a lot of fun to do. So much, much more fun than Monsters. Oh God, even though Monsters was a good time to— It was fun to talk about a lot, to rag on the Monsters.

A lot of fun to talk about, but yeah, watching every week was not—

Yeah, watching the Monsters was difficult. Watching these movies is a lot of fun, even when they are bad, even, even when it's corrective measures.

Or— and let me tell you, half the movies, all the—

even when you're getting double vetoed, it's, it's, uh, okay, it's a good time.

All the movies we watched for the monsters are all almost worse than any movie.

Oh God, yes! All the movies we watched for the monsters. Oh my God, My Grandpa the Vampire would definitely be in the bottom five. That's worse than Little McQuaid.

You're right, it is. Little Monsters would have been up here.

No, Mini Monsters would have been way down the list.

I think that might be worse. I don't know.

Yeah, I really don't understand you guys in like.

The Cat from Outer Space would be way down there. Now I will say this though, what was the other one? Uh, uh, what was it? What was it with Dick Van Dyke? What was the movie?

Oh, not that.

Fitzwillie.

Fitzwillie would not be near the top, but it would not be at the bottom.

That would have been solidly in the middle.

That's a veto.

Solidly at like 30, probably.

Uh, yeah, but yeah, I agree. It's, it's a fun show to do. I like doing it every week. A lot of variety, which is nice, and it's fun talking to you guys. I look forward forward to it every week. So yeah, thank you listeners for listening as well.

Keith's just sour. Sorry. No, I'm, I'm all right.

I'll be, I'll be, I'll be fine.

Oh, he's gonna be MFing you, Terry, for the next 3, 4 weeks.

No, no, no, no, no, no, it's, it's just, look, I'm gonna let it sit there for a bit. You'll never know when it's coming.

Oh no. Oh God, we're walking down the road with Keith. He's gonna push me from a moving car.

That's for Naked Gun. So I guess that leaves us with nothing to do but to end this the way we end everything.

Yes, to my big brother George, the richest man in town. I love this movie. Never seen it.

You've never seen It's a Wonderful Life? Nope. Wow, neither of you have? Nope. This is like the best Christmas movie on Facebook.

That's a Christmas present from a very dear friend of mine.

Look, Daddy, teeth! Teacher says every time a bell rings, an angel gets his wings. That's right, that's right. Attaboy, Clark. Thanks for listening to Fumbling Through Film. New episodes drop every Thursday. Got feedback or questions? Email us at [email protected]. Follow us on Blue Sky at Film Fumblers and Instagram @film.fumblers. You can also follow Keith on Instagram @kg33lives and @dadscardsdaily. Terry's on Letterboxd @terry2099, and Derek's on social media @derek9n9. All original music is produced by the Dr. Dre of Kansas, Terry. Hit him up for the bangers. See you next week as we keep on fumbling.