Reptiles: Crocodile Dundee (1986)

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Keith!

Yeah, you know what? I— yeah, I really feel like I fumbled this time.

Terry! I see a guy out in the corner, like, with a big ol' kangaroo meat sack hanging off him. Yeah, I'm leaving. Derek!

If there's more of us than him, he won't eat us, but don't go out in the wilderness alone with him or anything. And the power twins, Zap and Jordan, with their magical lemur snort, dedicated Welcome back to Fumbling Their Way Through Movies, one forgotten gem at a time. This week we discuss the 1986 fish-out-of-water rom-com Crocodile Dundee. This is Fumbling Through Film.

You can see where he sank his teeth in.

My God, how big was it?

Uh, 16, 18 foot maybe.

And you were out here hunting crocodiles in that?

Nah, that's illegal.

I was just fishing. How did you get away?

Ah, see, crocs don't like fresh meat. He wasn't trying to eat me on the spot. He just wanted to grab a hold of me and take me down for a death roll.

A death roll?

Yeah, yeah.

See, a croc will grab you, take you down to the bottom of the water, and roll you over and over and over. Until you stop kicking. Then he'd take you away to his meat safe somewhere. Rock ledge, log down under the water, jam you under it, tenderize you a bit. Good eating. Yeah, anyway, he wasn't happy with the grip he had on me, so he let go to get a better one. I talked him out of it.

Tough.

Hello and welcome to the one of a— another one of a kind. Not the one of a kind, another one of a kind, genre-defining, brand new episode of Fumbling Through Film, the only show that dares to bring 3 dudes together to talk about movies. But these just aren't any movies. These are the ones we've missed, overlooked, or feel are simply worth revisiting. My name is Derek, and I am a fumbler. Welcome, uh, with me in the Fumbledome. My traditional partners in crime.

I don't know.

I'm having real problems today. We're off our normal schedule. That's why. Anyway, he's the Prime Minister of Fumbling. He's the one and only Keith.

What's up, KG? Prime Minister Keith Nice?

Yep. That was mentioned.

Fumbler extraordinaire.

Yeah. That was mentioned too.

That's about it.

All right. All right. And the other person in the room, well, that's Terry. The Dr. Dre of Kansas.

Crikey, I can't believe I've been here before.

You got a little bit more of a British accent too.

Hello, mate.

Put another shrimp on the barbie, will ya?

Cherry, I'm not even gonna try.

Yeah, I've, um, I'm no master of accents, but you know what? You know what? I fumbled it just like I fumble many things, and that's But I'm happy to do sometimes.

Well, I give you permission to fumble through any accent that is associated with— hold on—

with—

oh, okay, with a predominantly white population like Australia or anything European.

Okay, okay. No, all right, now I was gonna cross them off the list here.

Yes, please cross the, the ones that go from having a having a bit of a, a tug. I don't know.

Like, uh, oh, Derek's like, uh, hold on, let me, uh— it's like you're, you're looking at like the HR handbook for the fumblers. Um, uh, any accents that are specific?

Yes. Australian, any part of the United States, European.

Okay.

Those are all good. Russia, that's a classic.

All right, well, unfortunately, I'm more of a blend of everything. I can't really nail it. So if I unintentionally make it sound something else, just know that it was probably trying to be an Australian accent.

It was trying. Yeah, but the intent was Australian. Mm-hmm.

We'll put that out there.

Well, here we are, gents. We're here in the Fumble Dome for another Fumbling Adventure, but we need to tell people what we do here. Well, I kind of told them already. We watch movies. But these just aren't any movies. We have a theme associated with the movies, and this month's theme was chosen by Terry, and Terry's theme is bloody reptiles. Bloody bloody reptiles. It is. It is bloody reptiles. Um, I don't know what accent that was. Kind of like a Cockney.

Oi!

Yeah. Oi! Bloody reptiles, eh?

If you get if you get the oi in there, he kind of gets it back to Australia. All right, so we're doing Australian movies— or not Australian movies, we're doing reptilian movies. And this week was Keith's choice, and he chose Crocodile Dundee. Crocodile Dundee from 1986. Yes.

And, uh, I, I picked this specifically because, uh, you know, we started looking up reptile movies. A lot of the other ones that are out there are like alligator-based movies. We had already watched Alligator. A lot of snake-based movies, very true, white worm type things, snaky type thing. And, um, and also, uh, Terry said, uh, I do believe in the original when he originally picked this theme was, yeah, reptile movies, take that however you want.

Yep. And so that's why you chose Crocodile Dundee?

Yes.

Yeah, because it, because it kind of covers it but also is not just standard reptiles, not like solely focused on a reptile per se. No, no.

Now this movie's older than Terry.

It is.

Terry, have you seen this movie before?

I haven't seen this before. No, this is the first time I ever saw it.

Did you know anything of it?

I knew it existed, um, and I knew there was like the iconic, like, that's not a knife, this is a knife, and he pulls out his knife. I know that scene, um, but that is literally all I knew about this.

That, that's a pretty good starting spot. Keith, what about you? When's the last time you saw Crocodile Dundee?

Oh, someplace probably before 1990.

Yeah, I was gonna say last time I saw it was probably 1986. When it came out, maybe probably '87, whenever it came out to VHS. I did not see it in theaters. This would be one, like, I wasn't old enough to take myself and be like, can we go see Crocodile Dundee?

No.

And I had to wait to rent it.

Yeah, no, it's probably one of those ones when my family, uh, they were early adopters of cable TV, so we had HBO, um, even though there's only like 7 other channels you could possibly have at the time.

Yep.

And it, it would show up on there. So I'm— even if I didn't see it all the way through, I know I would catch parts of it here and there. I'm sure my dad rewatched it a bunch of times.

A bunch?

You think your dad watched this a bunch of times?

Yeah, well, he's— he watches a lot of movies over and over again.

But you think this is specifically one that your dad would have watched repeatedly?

I saw my dad once, uh, watch— oh, what's the, what's the one where they're on the, on the bus and they got to keep it Speed. Speed. Yeah, I once saw him— I once saw him watch Speed 2.

Speed 2?

And then rewatch the entire thing right after it because they replayed it because he had missed the first 5 minutes on whatever station was playing it. So I guarantee he probably, like, you know, watching TV, had this on at some point in time.

So because he watched Speed 2 twice back to back, you think he would have watched Crocodile Dundee repeatedly?

Maybe he would have, he would have turned it on and just, and happened to just watch it because it was okay.

Yeah, yeah.

Oh, so he made good, he made good use of the HBO.

So it was like accidental watching some Crocodile Dundee. He didn't seek it out?

No, no, he turned it on and whatever was on was on.

Yeah, okay.

And it was always Dundee.

It was always, not always, but I'm get— I'm guaranteeing that's how he probably watched it multiple times. He's probably one who he took, probably who I went and saw it in the theater with.

You saw it in the theater too?

Yes. Yeah, we were big theatergoers.

And Crocodile Dundee would have been on the list to take a 12-year-old boy to go see?

Yes, absolutely. Uh, my dad took me to see The Last Emperor.

Okay.

Which was like a 3-hour movie about—

Historical drama?

Yeah, historical. Yeah, he took me to see that when I was like 12 or something also.

Okay.

Um, but we saw a bunch of other stuff too, but this, yeah, this falls right into that category.

Wow, okay. Well, I hadn't seen it since, uh, since then, and it was one of those ones I was going to lovingly remember as a thing that I'd watched and enjoyed at one point. I was willing to leave it there too, but here we are. But before we could talk about that, yeah, Keith is going to take us closer to this movie than anyone has ever dared to dream, never imagined to go to. Crocodile Dundee himself. Has never gotten this close to this movie with another one of our patented deep dives.

This movie, as you mentioned, came out in 1986. From the Australian Outback to New York City, Michael J. Crocodile Dundee is about to survive in a different kind of jungle. That was the tagline.

Concrete jungle. Yeah.

Concrete jungle. Yeah, right.

Just like Predator 2.

Oh yeah.

Yeah, they're they're. in spirit they are.

Now that's one I would have revisited. Predator 2, isn't that good?

There are themes that come up every month. We could— only 2 months in, sure, that could work its way in. The quote marks around the word crocodile in the title were added for the American release to ensure people, uh, didn't think that Dundee was in fact a crocodile.

I believe that.

Yeah, I wish he was. So I mean, because that could be something where like a parent just doesn't know and that they think it's like a Movie about a crocodile, you know, talking crocodile or something like that.

Yes, I would like that.

I think yeah, I wish it.

I wish it was like Roger Rabbit style where he's like an animated crocodile in like a real world. Oh, that'd be cool.

Take the exact same movie as it exists, but instead of Paul Hogan, it's an animated crocodile man.

Yes, Paul Hogan can voice him if he wants. I guess that'd be great.

Yeah, he could still voice it. Yeah, but it's animated. Yeah, that'd be great. Um, so this had a budget of eight point eight million.

A ton.

Yeah, and for this movie, well, it made a ton of money on top of that. It did, uh, domestically $174 million, internationally $153 million. That adds up to about $328 million overall.

What's that adjusted for inflation?

Oh, I didn't even look that up.

That's 40 years. I bet you that's, uh, oh, $100— I bet you it's like $300 million.

That's big bank.

$300 million. Could you imagine this movie coming out now and getting $300 million at the theater?

It's got Well, Derek, in, in 1986, this was the number 2 grossing film for the year.

Are you kidding me? Wow.

Top Gun was number 1.

Oh boy.

Karate Kid 2 was number 3. Okay, Back to School was number 4, which surprised the hell out of me.

Sure.

And, uh, Aliens was number 5.

Aliens was 5?

Wow.

Okay.

Part of, part of it was, you know, first of all, a lot of people like the big fish out of water theme that was, uh, going on with this movie and, you know, really into, uh, Australian comes here. But also, uh, in 1987, this movie was a Golden Globe nominee for Best Musical or Comedy. Uh, Hannah and Her Sisters won, but, uh, this was also down along with Crimes of the Heart, Down Out in Beverly Hills, Peggy Sue Got Married, and Little Shop of Horrors also on the list. Paul Hogan won Best Actor for a Comedy or Musical.

What?

Yep.

Um, he beat out Jeff Daniels for Southern Wild, Danny DeVito for Ruthless People, Jack Lemmon for That's Life, and Matthew Broderick for Ferris Bueller's Day Off.

Paul Hogan beat out Jack Lemmon.

I actually— I saw that, I was like, wow, that's pretty big. But then I was also like, wait a minute, He beat out Matthew Broderick in Ferris Bueller. Like, yeah, Matthew Broderick's, um, like, probably, you know, his best performance, uh, maybe possibly.

Or like— Oh, don't discount Godzilla.

Uh, Linda Kozlowski, she was also nominated for Best Supporting Actress for Comedy or Musical.

Um, she doesn't get Lead Actress for this?

Nope.

Okay.

Nope.

Uh, Maggie Smith, uh, won for A Room with a View.

Okay.

And then on top of that, same year, 1987, the Oscars, Best Original Screenplay.

It won an Oscar?

No, it's only got a nomination for this one.

Oh, okay, okay.

Phew.

Um, it, uh, lost to Hannah and Her Sisters, so Woody Allen. Um, also nominated was My Beautiful Laundretto, which I don't know what that is. Uh, Salvador, didn't know what that was, and Platoon.

No.

Okay.

And then Crocodile Dundee.

Those are your best original screenplays.

Yeah.

One of these things is not like the other. One of these things just isn't the same.

You call that a script? This is a script.

He called that a script.

Yeah.

Now, uh, Paul Hogan himself, not only, uh, you know, he— that he got, uh, the original screenplay nom, also the best actor thing, uh, because he actually wrote Uh, Crocodile Dundee.

Oh, he did?

Yeah, he wrote in it. He wrote it along with the, uh, Part 2, and then also Crocodile Dundee, uh, in LA. Um, but he started in like 19— I think it's like 1971. Uh, he's the Paul Hogan Show. Um, it's like a comedy show over in Australia. So he was like a really well-known, um, actor over in Australia at the time. Uh, I went through and I was looking at some of the other stuff that he did because Really, you know, between him and Linda Kozlowski, or Kozlowski, they don't do a whole lot outside of the Crocodile Dundee movies. Um, one of the other things though I did see Paul Hogan did was a movie called Almost an Angel.

Mm-hmm.

Uh, a small-time crook becomes convinced he's an angel after a traumatic incident, uh, and then, uh, resolves to perform the work of one.

Okay, interesting.

That sounds interesting. Paul Hogan also wrote that one as well.

Wow, he's a writer. Yeah.

And, uh, Linda Kozlowski also, uh, is in that movie also with him.

Oh, is she Australian?

No, no, she's not.

Okay.

The one thing that does stick out to me, and it's one that it's mostly because I'm, I'm actually disappointed it wasn't a real thing, uh, but a couple years ago during the Super Bowl, they played a trailer for a movie called, uh, Dundee: The Son of a Legend Returns Home. And it's supposed to be Brian Dundee tries to locate his father, Crocodile Dundee, in the Australian outback. And it was Danny McBride, uh, playing Brian Dundee. And then Chris Hemsworth, uh, was gonna be in there to play Crocodile Dundee's, uh, buddy, um, at the, at the bar, uh, like his son. But it turned out there's just an Australian tourism ad.

Mm-hmm.

And I was actually a little upset cuz the concept, uh, of the movie actually sounded good to me. Uh, it probably would've sucked, so I'm glad that maybe they just kept it to tourism. But, um, yeah, that one kind of stuck out to me there as well, uh, under Paul Hogan stuff. All the rest of it was, it's either Crocodile Dundee related or like some other outback thing that's very similar to it.

Like the restaurant?

Yes, like the restaurant.

Yeah. Yeah. No, seriously, you're talking about the restaurant?

No, no, like other outback type movies and stuff like, like, oh, I'll show you, like, themed movies and stuff like that.

What other outback type movies are there?

Jesus.

Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I wrote down. I wrote down a few notes. I didn't write down everything. It's okay. I think it's called like Outback Jack or something like that. Yeah, where he's like he's an outback guy, but he's in the Wild West. They're all very similar type things that he did.

Oh, okay. Alligator Dandy.

Alligator Dandy is that we said. Well, he's a he's a quite proper alligator. He eats. He's a dandy fob alligator.

It's in Britain. Yeah, England. Oh yeah.

Uh, now Terry, you asked, um, uh, Linda Kozlowski was Australian. Uh, she's not. Uh, she is however a Juilliard graduate with Broadway play experience.

Oh.

Um, not only did she, uh, frequent co-star, like I said, the, the 3 Crocodile Dundee films and also Almost an Angel, uh, but They eventually fell in love and got married.

In real life?

Wow.

So Paul Hogan and his co-star fell in love.

Yep.

And got married in 1990.

In 1990?

Yeah.

So like 4, 5 years after they filmed this, probably.

After the second one. They had to make sure it was real.

Yeah.

They got divorced after the third one. That's usually the best indicator if you're—

well, they divorced?

They got—

they get divorced after the third one.

So 2, doing, doing a sequel, you know, it's true love. But doing a threequel, um, red flags.

Um, what's the third wheel?

Now, like I said, that's pretty much all like she's really been in. Most of her stuff is all tied into her work with Paul Hogan. But she was in a movie in 1987 called Pass the Ammo. Okay, evangelist's congregation gets taken hostage by a woman seeking revenge for stolen inheritance. The black comedy exposing corrupt Preachers. It also stars Bill Paxton and Tim Curry.

Oh, Tim Curry. There you go.

Okay.

Now, uh, John, uh, M-E-I-L-L-O-N, uh, Mayon?

Mayon?

I don't know.

Yeah. Uh, he plays Walter, I think that's his name. The, uh—

No, his buddy.

His buddy. Yeah, his buddy who helps handle, uh, the Walkabout Cafe place that they— bar and tours that they run, um, back there in the Outback. Uh, he, uh, in addition to being in all, uh, well, I think he's only in 2 because he passes away before the 3rd one.

Mm-hmm.

Um, I was looking through just a lot of the rest of the stuff he has compared to the other 2. He has a very long list, uh, of things that he's been in. Uh, one is called Wake in Fright, 1971. After a bad gambling bet, a schoolteacher is marooned in a town full of crazy, drunk, violent men who threaten to make him just as crazy, drunk, and violent. Uh, the tagline for that one's, have a drink, mate. Have a fight, mate. Have a taste of dust and sweat, mate. There's nothing else out here.

Huh. Okay. I like that tagline.

But that one didn't stick out to me as much as The Cars That Ate Paris. Small town of Paris, Australia deliberately causes car accidents, then sell and salvage all the valuables from the wrecks as a means of economy.

Oh, I was hoping cars came to life and started eating people.

I was hoping that too.

Well, I watched the trailer. It almost makes it seem like that to some extent.

Oh, it does?

Yeah, but, uh, yeah, I think— no, I think people are just like, you know, leaning down low in the front seat so you can't see the dirt. Okay, if you're driving. Um, but, but it does look pretty crazy. And finally, I just want to mention, uh, the limo driver Gus is played by original Vel Johnson of Die Hard and Family Matters fame. And then this was directed by Peter Feynman. Hey, I looked through all his stuff. The only other thing I really kind of thought Uh, that stuck out to me, uh, was a movie called Dutch.

Uh, the one with, uh, Al Bundy.

Yep.

Yeah.

Uh, to get to know his girlfriend's son, a working-class good guy volunteers to pick up his prep school— uh, to pick up the kid from prep school, only learn that he isn't the nicest young man. Uh, I didn't, I didn't recognize anything else besides he worked on The Paul Hogan Show.

Oh, fun.

Yeah. Also, uh, Linda Kozlowski— again, Terry, to answer your question for her— she's the only American on set the whole time that they shoot in Australia's Northern Territory.

Really?

Wow.

Damn.

Yep.

This movie has so many layers of fish out of water in it.

Um, one thing I did notice, uh, that seems to be a theme so far with what we're doing, with maybe the exception of Noah, this movie's right around an hour and 30 minutes, and they waste no time getting right into what's happening in the movie. There's no warm-up at all. It just—

it is, uh, Hey, I'm going to Australia, or I'm in Australia. I'm gonna go find out.

I don't want to come home yet. Yeah. Linda, she plays Sue, a writer for the New York Times. I'm assuming it's New York Times or some similar paper.

A newspaper. Yep. A newspaper.

The old Daily Bugle. And she's already over there writing a bunch of other articles, and she hears a story about a guy who had his leg bit off and then managed to survive in the Outback before, like, you know, like a month later coming out of the Outback, you know, still alive. I've, you know, got, uh, so he got his leg bitten off. And so she's like, I'm gonna stay here and, you know, do a little bit more work and, and do, uh, an article on this guy. And then she heads out to the—

Oh, important part you missed though. She is in love with or involved with the person on her phone. That is what, the editor of the paper or something like that?

Oh, and, uh, we eventually later do find out her dad owns the paper also. Yeah, we do find that out here, which is kind of a plot point that really doesn't matter, but no, it's, it's a bit of an odd thing there. But yeah, um, yeah, so she, you know, the guy, uh, she's in a relationship already with the editor, and she hasn't seen him in like 6 weeks because she's been out on assignment.

I did not realize this movie was a romantic comedy, uh, in my scanning my memory banks, I just imagined it being a comedy, not of the romantic nature. about an Australian guy, and I couldn't remember much more beyond that. And then when I saw rom-com, I was like, oh no. I'm like, I guess it'll be all right. Like, it's an '80s rom-com and it is very '80s rom-com formulaic to the T. The comedy— if crocodile is going to be put in quotes, I'm putting comedy in quotes as well.

Yeah.

I'll be honest, there's a couple times, especially when they're in the Australia part, where I'm like, you know, it could be an easy pivot to a horror film.

Uh, it could have been an easy pivot to lots of things.

Yeah. Uh, specifically, you know, like some of the things like when they get— when they're in the outback and it's the— he gets out and he does this weird thing to basically put this— was like a— it was like an ox to sleep type thing. The camera, like the, the choice they use for the camera, like zooming in on him kind of slowly while he's just making like noise and, and holding up his fingers and like 2 horns and stuff like that.

Yeah.

Uh, and the angles that they got, it's like, it's almost like, wow, this could almost get like very creepy very quickly here. Um, yeah, you know, maybe.

Or very sexy.

No, didn't think that.

Camera starts panning down slowly.

Yeah, that ox is hung.

Saxophone starts playing.

Yep. And it brings the same reaction from what's her name in the movie? I can't remember it.

Sue.

Jesus Christ.

Oh yeah, yeah, she, she's, uh, she's into it right away.

She's blown the fuck away by the fact that he's able to do the— I don't even know— hypnotic stare. Yeah.

There's only one way to get this ox out of the road.

And it defeated the purpose to actually lay down in the road. Yeah, right.

Yeah, I don't know if they thought maybe it was gonna, like, if they went to drive by, it would attack. So now if it's laid down, it's not gonna do anything. I have no idea.

I like to think they drove over it.

Drove over it?

Yeah, and just dragged it along with them.

It got stuck underneath the carriage of the Jeep and just got drug for a couple miles. Yeah.

Before we get to that scene though, she's like, hey, I'm going to go hang out in the Outback to get this article. She goes to some small little— I don't know if it's like a bar and hotel type thing.

Is there a hotel? I don't know.

Well, they stay overnight before they head out the next day.

I mean, I'm assuming they got something, but if I were her, I'd just sleep at the bar.

It's the local bar, and that's where we finally meet He said Crocodile Dundee.

We meet a bunch of characters though. What was the big— what was the big doofus that balanced the beer on his head and let him punch him in the gut?

Was it Duffy or Donk?

Donk, I think.

That sounds right.

Yeah.

Oh, she's— We get like—

we get about 8 or 9— 8 or 9 minutes into the movie before we ever actually do get to see—

Meet Crocodile Dundee.

Yeah, Crocodile Dundee.

The Crocodile Dundee.

Yeah, and he comes rolling in, um, he throws— the knife comes getting thrown through, it lands right to the bar.

You know what my first thought was when I saw that knife? Now that's a knife.

Yeah, the first thing.

Um, you know, there were, uh, they had 3 different versions of that on set at all times. There was a steel one, a rubber one, and aluminum one. And Paul Hogan kept the, uh, steel version after the movie, promising—

Why wouldn't you? I think it's almost a sword.

Yeah. Yes, I think it's awesome. Um, yeah, yeah. So they, uh, they You know, we get he comes in and he's wrestling crocodile. It's a stuffed crocodile, and he's just obviously making a clearly stuffed crocodile. Yeah, yeah.

But what's her name? Sue is is very terrified.

Yeah, yeah. She's kind of freaked out right away. But he I mean he immediately is just kind of standing there at the bar like yeah.

Probably because she's just a Sheila from the city.

Yes, she is.

Yeah. It's true.

So. Well, he immediately just kind of starts throwing on the charm with her and starts dancing with her. And then somebody accuses him of poaching crocodiles and he knocks the dude right out.

Yeah.

But the dude is clearly a crocodile poacher, right?

He's a, he's a poacher of some sort himself.

Uh, he looks like it.

Clearly hunts crocodiles.

He feels like it's, it's the whole thing.

Yeah. Wait, are you talking about Crocodile Dundee?

Yes, definitely. Yes.

Uh, yeah, yeah, I think so.

Yes. He's clearly like, from that opening clip we showed, that guy, like, he was just fishing.

What are you talking about?

The way he talks.

Yeah.

Oh, man. Yeah. Like, that opening clip is very like what you're talking about. I can't believe it's like a— this movie could turn in a lot of directions. Like, that clip out of context, it's kind of creepy.

It's dark, isn't it?

Yeah.

He has several of these that are— that are very reflective.

Yeah.

Yeah. I'm like, this is because it'd be a movie about a crazy poacher who, like, thinks this reporter's on to him, so he goes out and tries to kill her. Like, that could be what this movie's about.

But— Oh, boy, that'd be a better movie. This movie tries to take lots of swings at different social commentary and doesn't like land any of them and/or explore any of them. It's all surface-level jabbery at best.

There is a— I mean, there is a line where he, you know, talks about like he considered eating her multiple times while they've been out there.

Well, I think— I think he meant something else.

Yeah.

Wow. Yeah, I'm just saying, if you— no, I'm saying like if you, if you think that this could take a creepy turn, he does mention like that as well.

That's true. That's true. Yeah, maybe that's why he moved.

Yeah, maybe take that out of context. It's a cannibal. Cannibal Dundee.

Cannibal Mick. Cannibal Dundee. There we go. Everybody knows him as the cannibal guy. Yeah, we used to let him in the bar.

He's cool. Yeah, if there's more of us than him, he won't eat us. Yeah, yeah. Don't go out in the wilderness alone with him or anything.

He's really the life of the party once you get to know him. Yeah, we love having this guy around, but yeah, just, uh Oh, wait, you're— you're—

you're going— You can't let one quirk define Cannibal Dundee.

No, no, we don't judge other people like that.

It's how we address him.

We all know him.

We warn others about him. But we can't let that define him and make him like bad.

He seems proud of the title even, but you know.

Yeah, he carries around a bib and a fork and a knife everywhere he goes.

He's got a stuffed human being just carried around with him.

So they— I mean, we get to meet all these different characters in the bar, and then the next day they're, they're out in the car driving along because they're gonna head to the Outback, uh, that's a restaurant.

And the guy—

they drive for a bit and then, uh, they're on a boat for a little bit.

Yes.

And then they get off and they have to walk.

And hold on, there's a part of the boat that made me laugh out loud, and it's the only time I laughed during this whole movie.

Oh, what is it?

They saw an— they saw a crocodile on the shore, and Sue goes, oh yeah, she jumps.

Yeah, yeah, she's freaked.

The thing is, you're out here looking for a long way away from them, and, uh, it's not even in the water.

And also, she's being taken to a place where he got attacked by a crocodile.

Like, true. Yeah, yeah, there's a lot more that came from—

yes. Uh, you wouldn't know that the way she acts later on.

So there's crocodiles out here?

Really? Yeah, she's like surprised.

Uh, so they drive a bit, then they, they're on the boat a little bit, and then they get off the boat. So Mick has already done like the thing, you know, the mind over matter with the ox and like blown her mind completely with that. But I like, I like this part where he's getting off the boat, he just kind of quickly, hey, uh, he grabs Walter's arm real quick to see what his watch— when she's not paying attention, and he looks at it real quick. And then, uh, and then he goes, he looks at the sun, he's like, uh, nope, 2:20, we probably should get moving. And she looks watch, she's like, it is 2:20. Like, she's blown away by this.

Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of that in this movie. Like, I'm just a simple Outbacksmen. Is that what they call themselves?

Something like that.

But yeah, you are— you're just a fan of the restaurant. I think that's what those people call them, Outbackeneer or something.

And but like, this is the one where like a lot of the other stuff that he does is like It's kind of cool. He's done some, you know, he does some interesting stuff. Yeah, it's all there. This is the one time where he's like pulling the ruse, uh, by, you know, by checking the watch first and—

Oh, she did.

Yeah, that's the part, that's the part I like is as he's walking out, he, he just quickly grabs, uh, Walter's arm, looks at the watch, and then, you know, turns and like he looks up at the sun, he's like, yeah, 2:20, probably should get moving. And then she looks at her watch and she's like blown away by it.

Oh, I totally missed that 100%. I just thought it was another one of these like folksy things where he just knows the earth better because he's from the outback.

Yeah. Well, and that's the thing. You're like, well, is all the stuff like a ruse that he's putting on or is he like— but that's about the only one, the only thing that he seems to do during this part where it's like he kind of cheats to, you know, to impress her.

There is kind of a mystery about him because like when he— they meet at the bar, like the story was that his whole leg got bit off. Oh yeah, yeah, he's got both legs. It's just a bite. Like, so it sounds like a lot of these like things have been exaggerated a lot, so maybe he's not quite—

still a pretty big bite.

I mean, yeah, it looked pretty bad, bad still.

Yeah, you think it'd be infected and stuff.

Yeah, it probably would.

Yeah, at least fresher looking.

Well, I don't know how long it's been since he's gotten back and she's—

that's true. She just heard a tall tale of a man who got his leg bit off. Yeah, his name is Crocodile Dundee, and she's gonna go hunt him down for a story. Which, why wouldn't you?

I mean, that's a great, like, yeah, clue to a story if I've ever heard one.

Mm-hmm. This is big.

Better would be if it was— his name was Cannibal Dundee.

Yes, but this is, this is before the 24-hour news cycle, so you had to go out and like dig up stuff.

Yeah, right.

I'll do a thing about some crocodile man.

Uh, and then they, they go and they see the, the scene where our opening clip, they find the— his boat that got attacked by, uh, like the 16-foot, uh, crocodile.

Now you guys couldn't see it, but the boat's in a tree.

Yes. Yeah, it's leaned up.

Did the crocodile throw it into the tree?

Uh, no, he, he mentions that, um, based on the time of year, like normally the water is much higher.

Oh, he says that?

Yeah, at other times, because they're walking through that and he's like, normally the water could come all the way up to here at such and such times of the year. So yeah, so wherever he was, the water had, the water had backed down Oh, so it had to have been a long time ago then. I'm guessing it's just like a seasonal thing. So I mean, it could have been like six months prior or a year prior.

Yeah, well, that's a long time ago. Yeah, in the news world.

Yeah, in the news world. Not that news world. That news world.

It's not breaking news that man almost has leg bit off by crocodile. Yeah. The very own, our very own Crocodile Dundee was attacked by a crocodile.

This just in: six months ago, a man was eaten by a crocodile.

Uh, he gives the whole death, the death roll story, you know, and explains how he escaped, etc. And then—

But if you're watching it, if you're listening to it, it sounds kind of ominous.

If you're watching it, it's not like he's threatening her.

It's playful and flirty.

It is not playful and flirty at all. It's, it's very creepy. Um, yeah, she thinks it's playful and flirty, I think, though.

Oh, he thinks it's playful and flirty too.

At this, at this point in time, yes, she is definitely charmed by pretty much anything he does.

Weirdly, I don't understand.

And then, and then the odd— they have this whole odd conversation where she starts, hey, don't you stand up for it?

Like, yeah, what do you know? What's your opinion on this? What's your opinion?

Oh yeah, I hated this because her boyfriend, her— he's probably fighting for gay Nazis right now. I'm like, are you kidding me?

It's like, wow.

Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, I'm like, okay, I get you, like you're trying to show like a little bit more depth to Crocodile Dundee, but it's just, it's, it's very out of place from what everything else they've been doing.

Well, they're showing you that if you're a true man of the wild, you don't care about those sorts of causes. Those causes are for the, the educated, the college, like the city slickin' folk. Right? Real men live out in the woods and we don't have problems out here. Oh, who would hear them? We're just out here in the wilderness fighting crocodiles and picking up snakes.

Randomly.

Yep.

My only opinion is not getting eaten by crocodiles.

Having an opinion is for suckers. That's what the movie says.

Yeah, pretty much. Um, yeah, and so it, it really kind of is out of place there.

But it was the first time they tried to do anything like thematic, right? Like Oh, here's something that we can touch on. Nah.

Well, and I guess, I guess part of it, if you're looking at the character, she is a reporter. So I guess maybe she's trying to put together her story, and so she's trying to get some more insight about, like, things about him. And but yeah, it just, it's, it doesn't sit well, um, in that part of the movie. But it does tie in then. So like that night, they get woken up by sound of cars driving around, some shooting and stuff, and there's some I think it's the same guys that he punched at the bar and stuff like that. They're driving around in these not quite monster trucks, but definitely off-road vehicles, just shooting kangaroo left and right.

Nothing against that.

Yeah, that's not illegal. It's illegal to shoot crocodile, but not kangaroo. But she's like, you have to do something. And he's like, fine, whatever, I'll go do something. And what he does is amazing.

Can we put air quotes on amazing too?

We can underline it, maybe highlight it as well.

Italicize amazing.

Yeah, because he puts on like the carcass of a dead kangaroo.

Is that what happens?

He's not wearing it, is he?

I hope he is now. Now he's Kangaroo Dundee.

Empire Strikes Back style, climbed in there.

He's wearing the skin of a kangaroo. He's like Buffalo Bill, but for kangaroos now.

The only reason I say that is because when they show it, like, the eyeballs are clearly not there anymore. So I thought maybe he had like popped them out. Yeah, and so you can see, plus it's actually— it's holding the gun and it's shooting at them.

It was high accuracy. It was really high accuracy. Wow, he had to have crawled in there. You're right.

Ew, never thought of it. I thought he was just holding up a dead kangaroo just and shooting with it.

Gutted it, cleaned it out.

I mean, that's probably— that's probably what actually happened there because he probably just held it up and put the gun there.

I think he just at least carved off the face to put it over his.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, but he shoots pretty accurately and, um, he scares— he scares off all the, the kangaroo poachers.

I see a guy out in the corner like with a big old kangaroo meat sack hanging off him. Yeah, I'm leaving too.

That's out.

It's that crazy fuck Dundee. Let's get out of here.

The cannibal Dundee.

There's so many things about this scene that are so stupid, right? They start shooting, man.

I love it.

And they're like, wait a minute, is that gunfire? Let's go check it out. Like, they're, they're like, yeah, they're lucky they didn't get shot in the face, either one of them.

They almost did get shot at one point. Yeah.

Oh, and, and she's continuing to fall in love with him. Yeah, she's very much entranced with him. But now the next day—

now I, I gotta go back to this one more time. All right, if I would have gone through the effort to gut out the kangaroo to wear its skin, I would carry that with me because I would use it for other things. Yeah, there's no way I would just use it for that one thing.

Okay, maybe I was wrong.

I put all that time in the gut of that kangaroo.

I'll be honest, it probably isn't what I think it is. It's just like when they, they probably just They mocked up like, you know, a fake kangaroo.

It's clearly a fake kangaroo.

Yes. And so I think maybe that's what gave me the thought that he was actually wearing—

What if he had a kangaroo costume on him? Oh, he just always has that.

Oh yes, yes. People see, that's what goes to the theory. He's already done this once and he just finally— Yes, that's my chance.

Yeah, it's all set up just to impress her, so he's got it sitting out there.

Yeah, he's like, oh, she's gonna love this.

Oh. What was his friend's name again?

Walter.

Hey, Walt, gimme the old Joey outfit. I'm going out there with this Sheila.

But I mean, I think this is not the first time. That's part of the thing is he's giving tours to people and taking people out there.

You think he wears the kangaroo outfit all the time?

I think maybe he has it out there already.

I love this guy more now. He's a cannibal that wears a kangaroo outfit. Now that's a movie right there.

Yes, I would. Crocodile Dundee 4.

Oh, especially if they bring the kangaroo, uh, off into New York.

Oh, I think he meant that same kangaroo. It's rotten by now.

Oh yeah, it just gets worse and worse. Yes, Crocodile Dundee. I want to see Crocodile Dundee 4. Crocodile Dundee versus Cannibal Dundee.

Oh man, he's wearing this like old, just decaying and rotten kangaroo corpse on his—

it's—

I've hated since 1986. And it's just— oh, it's just falling apart. And, oh, God, I would love that.

Chunks hanging on there.

Yeah.

Oh, God, that's great.

He's got to be wearing that, walking home in that thing, going into the bar, showing up. Yeah.

So the next morning, she's trying to record some stuff for her article, and he pisses her off by saying, like, you're a woman, you can't make it out here.

Yeah, he's like, oh, you're a reporter and a woman? You're— it means you're the biggest busybody on the face of the earth. Is that when he says that?

Yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, that's later on. They're flirty.

Oh yeah, when they want to get down and dirty in the outback.

Yeah, yeah. No, this is just— he's telling her like, you know, you're not gonna be able to make it.

Yeah, it's gonna take an extra few hours to get home because you're a woman, basically.

Yeah. And she points at something off in this, she's like, that's where we're supposed to camp out later tonight. She goes, all right, I'll meet you there, and takes off. And I actually really enjoy this next part where he's kind of—

well, he tells her, you better take the gun, fire it off if you get in trouble. And then he makes fun of her, oh, that's the dangerous end, and he shoots at his feet. Yeah, it's like, I know how to use a rifle.

They give no other background on why she would know this.

No.

Or anything. Um, makes almost think that, uh, she got Lucky there. But I do like this whole thing where, like, instead of just, like, trying to, you know, race to beat her there, he's slowly just— yeah, stalking her, uh, and making sure that she's okay. But he's also doing it in a very creepy way.

Yeah, that's why most stalkers are stalking people to make sure that they're just okay. Yeah, I mean, he's—

they're all right.

I think, like, his main part is he's making sure that she's safe during the whole thing, but that she also achieve the thing that she wants to.

It's Cannibal Dundee.

Um, but then she's—

she happens to get into her bathing suit and, you know.

Oh yeah, she's wearing like a, a single-piece full-body like thong thing.

Yeah, she's—

I guess, and she's been walking for a while so she's hot and she comes across a little thing, uh, like a pond or something like that. She wants to refill— wants to refill her water bottle.

It's dirty. The water is muddy.

It's not. It's 1987 Australia outback, man. That's pure clean water right there.

You couldn't see through it because if you would see the damn alligator slash crocodile monster.

There was a lot of stuff on top, a lot of leaves and stuff on top there. But anyway, she wants to get some water, but she has to strip down to her bathing suit to do so. And Mick is very much watching the entire thing and taking it in.

Well, her ass is out.

It is very much so.

Yes.

And this is when, um, she's filling up the water, and this is the most very predictable thing here, is this— a crocodile jumps out and tries to attack her and, and, and gets her by the canteen, which is around her neck.

Yes.

It's trying to pull and she's pulling back or whatever. Now, yes, um, when Sue goes down to the water to fill her canteen, the reptile that lunges forward is not a crocodile but a large American alligator.

Yeah, I was going to say, it's a— it's an alligator. It's not like a long pointy snouted Crocodile.

Yeah.

Yeah. Wow.

Uh, and, uh, at this point, Mick though, he comes running to the rescue. He jumps in, lands knife right to the head of the thing.

Yes.

Um, shoves it all the way in, twists it. Uh, and then he comforts her and she's like, is it dead? And he's like, well, it better be. Otherwise it's, you know, it's gonna be a, it's gonna be a bitch to, um, skin it and wear it. To skin it. Yeah. And they show the giant thing sitting there with just this giant knife out of, you know, sticking out of its head.

It's 100% an alligator because you could tell because its snout is like rounded. Crocodiles are pointed snouts. Alligators are rounded snouts.

Yeah, but, um, she realizes that she's out of her element, um, and again she falls even more in love with him.

Yes.

Now, before they can make out though, uh, his buddy shows up, uh, his buddy Neville.

Yeah. And they had to establish though that what happens in the Outback stays in the Outback unless you take it with you back to New York.

Oh, true.

Yes. Yeah.

And he wants to inspect her wound, which happens to be on her butt, on her buttocks.

Yep. She's, she's, uh, she assumes the position for him to check that, and that's when, uh, Neville assumes the position.

Oh, what? Check that.

Well, The position so he can get a good clear look at her butt cheek.

Yeah, right.

Even, even though the alligator was only biting, uh, her canteen and pulling her forward, she probably— she must have scraped her butt.

Yeah, backwards. I mean, it was pretty exposed. That thing was pretty exposed. Probably any— yeah, those rocks probably did not do good on them.

There's a lot of stupid that happens that scene. One, she takes off her dress. They're dress bottom to expose her butt. And then she's like, I'm gonna wade in this water in crocodile territory. We know— you have to assume, yes, that every body of water has a crocodile in it, no matter what.

True, true.

Right? Like, I assume if there's water, there's alligators.

Yes, you're always double-checking everything.

Yeah, same thing here.

In the sewers of a big city, there's alligators.

That's true. Yes.

But this is like crocodile territory, prime crocodile territory, and they're going to— it's a story about being attacked by a crocodile. What are you doing wading out in the water?

Yeah, well, I mean, she thinks she can do everything out there on her own. He wanted to prove her wrong, and part of this is she just decides not to pay attention to what she's doing. But yeah, the whole stripping down scene and everything, make— just get a little bit of water. Plus, like, she's like, you know, she's Jiggling the canteen around. Stuff is like, you're jiggling the canteen.

Yes, that's what we call it.

You're attracting, um, the crocodile to come and attack you. Everyone knows that. All right, so then they're sitting there and this guy, uh, Neville shows up. Um, Neville's the average and original.

Yeah.

Yep. And the role is played by, uh, David Gulpilil.

Yeah.

Anyway, anyway, so the scene that, the scene that follows here is because he's, he's a city guy, but his dad is a chief of an Aboriginal tribe. And so they're having some sort of, uh, ceremony type thing going on out there. Um, and women aren't allowed, so like she can't, she can't go along. So Mick goes along though.

Yes.

But, uh, and I was kind of worried. I was like, oh, this is gonna be one of those scenes where like, this is probably a very problematic scene. Uh, however, I did see, uh, the guy who plays him is, uh, he's— he choreographed the traditional Aboriginal dance, uh, shown in the movie. He's one of the most famous and acclaimed tribal dancers of all time in Australia.

I would say it's probably one of the least problematic scenes in the whole thing. I—

it's the one I was worried about that I actually was like, when I went through— or no, when I went through to look at the trivia, I was like, let me go and look and make sure that like they just didn't do some like crazy dancing, that they actually found somebody who, who knows the Aboriginal traditional dances. So I was actually very happy that they, that they did that for that scene.

Yes, but women aren't allowed for that, right? And so, but she sneaks up and she's in the weeds with the camera.

And that's where she asks him how, how did, uh, he know she was there. And he's like, well, you're a woman reporter, you know, the biggest busybody around.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's where that line— take it. She asks him to Come back to New York at that point?

I think so. I don't know. Did they ever get to their destination?

Yeah, it's something like they they just kind of jump to the next day when when Walter shows up. Right.

It was this station. I can't remember.

Yeah, because he they were going to be out there for two days and then he was going to pick them up at the other location.

Oh, he's been there a hundred times, but he can't he gets lost.

Yeah, yeah, he gets lost.

So Walter's like, "Hey, did you eat or eat?" He yeah, Walter. Oh God!

Wants to get wants to get all details on if you know Mick banged another client.

Another client? You think Mick bangs all the clients before?

It's I that's why I took it was that you know he was you know anytime they took some ladies out there he was probably hooking up with them.

He's got like a list checking off them. He's like all right there's another one down.

Do you think that Crocodile Dundee does lots of tours for women?

I bet it's probably. A fair amount. Maybe I wouldn't say like just so— Not, not single one woman.

Yeah.

By themselves, but probably groups of like mixed company.

I don't know.

Bachelor parties. And oh, she's, uh, he, he's like, oh, I was worried you're making a pass at me when she asked him back to New York.

Yeah.

Uh, she's like, oh yeah, I kind of am.

Yes.

Not mentioning that.

Would you mind?

Yeah. Not mentioning that, hey, I'm dating the editor of the paper.

Yeah.

It's just care. It's what happens to the up next tasting.

Yeah.

All right. So at this point, we're about 45 minutes into the movie. We're about halfway.

Oh, that's it?

Well, it's about halfway through.

Okay. So that's the midpoint. That's the—

Yes.

Where everything changes now.

And at this point in watching the movie, and you guys have picked apart a lot of it, but I actually enjoyed the first half of this movie. I enjoyed— Me too.

Well, it's fine.

I enjoyed the parts in Australia. I actually, even if a few of them are a little questionable, some of the dialogue's a little questionable, like the whole, what's your opinion on things or whatever. I get what they're trying to establish, some stuff with the guy and she's a reporter, so I get some of that. But I just kind of liked the way it was set up and seeing the outback and the whole thing where he's kind of following along and stuff like that to make sure she's okay.

Sure.

So I really kind of enjoyed that whole thing. The second half of the movie though, once I started looking and seeing also that this was nominated for Best Original Screenplay stuff, I was like, really? But again, I guess in 1987, Like all these things weren't so cliché, maybe.

Yeah, I guess it takes something, especially for the—

especially, uh, with an Australian, I guess. Maybe like the fish out of water with an Australian was a fresh concept, I guess. I, I don't know, because they could be— because they go through so many like stereotypical things of like— I mean, obviously like he's freaked out about flying because he's never flown.

Yes.

And as it's taking off, he's like, oh my God.

He goes, Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ.

When they get to New York, they got separated because in customs he got— he was getting into a fight because they wanted to go through his bags because that's what you do.

That was pre-9/11.

He's freaked out about the escalator.

Oh yeah. He's not sure how that works.

Yeah. Yeah. It just— and then they get to the hotel and they're walking around showing him all the stuff. It's just very clichéd type things. I'm like, oh my God, this is so like, But I guess maybe 1987, this was still a little fresh.

Kind of reverse Pretty Woman.

Yes. Yeah, I guess.

Yeah, it is. Yeah.

Right? Because you got this dude who's fish out of water in a society he doesn't belong in, trying to make heads or tails of it. And he stays at this hotel, makes friends with all the staff. Yeah.

I mean, this is his thing. Everyone he meets seems to like him. I mean, he's a very likable guy.

Crocodile Dundee. Um, but he encounters all the city life that is like dirty, evil New York, and he's like, he's able to make sense of it. You know why? Because he's just a down-to-earth, old-timey, outback western good guy.

I thought you're gonna say because the outback is just as dirty.

Um, yeah, I mean, yes, it is. It's a, it's a caricature movie, sort of whatever.

Um, I think the— I think like the one good part about this like opening bit when they're there is the whole thing with the bidet and he's— he doesn't know what it's for and she just kind of tells him to figure it out.

Yeah. I'm surprised they had like— was that— and I feel like that got kind of popular recently, but I didn't realize, you know, I'd be confused probably back in the '80s what that thing was.

I think bidet technology has taken off in the last 15 years.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's why we got one here in my house.

Do you?

Yeah, we got one.

La di da.

We got one around pandemic time. It's it's like now because of the fact that like when people were like, oh, there's no toilet paper.

Oh, true. Yeah.

My wife my wife was like, well, I'm getting the bidet.

Just call him Keith Bidet Dundee.

Yeah, I've actually never I've never used it. It's my it's my wife who uses it.

I don't ever use it. No. Oh, you're missing out, man.

I—

so here's probably a TMI story. I went on a work trip to New Jersey.

Okay.

Uh, and it was like flew into New York City or whatever and took the whatever to this thing, and it was for a client. This was, this was pre-pandemic, and, uh, the hotel that was closest to where I needed to be was kind of pricey, but client pays for it, so I stayed there. And they had a bidet, and I was like, "I'm gonna rock this thing as much as I can." I probably yeah, I won't go. I won't talk too much about bidet activities.

It does its job. It does its job.

It does the work.

Sounds nice. I've never tried one. I want to try one sometime.

Yeah, it's let's imagine just warm water shoot on your butthole. That's it. It always knows where your butthole's at, no matter where you're sitting. It's got like an eye or something. I don't know.

Yeah, I don't know either.

It's always watching up there. Um.

So, and it's kind of funny because then he— I like the part. I do like the part, like, when he looks out the window because he's like, figure it out on your own. And he's sitting there for a while looking at it, and then he looks out and he's like, oh, it's to wash your butt.

And then what do you think he did before that? Before he figured it out?

How many things did he try?

He definitely drank out of it.

At least water fountain.

Yeah, because he tried to stick his foot in it.

Yeah, that's not my first reaction when I— it looks like a toilet. You're not going to put your foot in it.

I know he's seen a toilet before.

There's no way he hasn't.

We're not Not washing our boots. Um, yeah, I don't— I'm— well, he wasn't up there that long, so he couldn't have done too much crazy stuff.

Well, she had to take the elevator down, walk out. There's, there's time. There was time in there. I bet you tried all sorts of freaking shit.

Um, oh yeah.

Uh, but the part that I like most about this, after he says that to her, he gets a look at up and down the street there, and he's kind of blown away by it.

Yes.

Like how many people are there and, and, and all that stuff.

This was back when you could open the windows in a hotel room.

Yeah. You, and you could, you could smoke in the elevators.

Oh, you could smoke everywhere. Could you imagine being in an elevator? Now, I was a smoker. I would've never dreamed of smoking in an elevator.

No. Would you have, uh, put the ashes out in your hat?

No, I never wore a hat like that. I always wore baseball hats.

Mm-hmm. Uh, cuz he can't find an ashtray, so he kind of just, he taps all the ashes into the top of his hat.

But he rolls his own cigarettes.

Yep.

Keep that in mind too, because later—

Yeah, it does. And so then he decides he's gonna go, he's just gonna walk around because he doesn't have to meet them for dinner until 7 o'clock.

Yep.

And apparently when he actually went out and did this, he did walk around saying good day to people the whole time, uh, while he was walking around throughout, uh, Manhattan. And my thing, I was, I was like he's walking the wrong way. He's walking opposite of the rest of the people walking the entire time that he's there.

And it's just like Australia, they drive on the other side of the road.

That's true.

But he's like, it's when they do like overhead views, you can see there's people going in both directions. But when they do like more closeups of him, he's clearly like, he's trying to get through and there's just All these people walking and he's the only one walking the other direction.

Yeah.

Um, and I found that a little bit annoying, but again, it's just these like basic like things that now I'm like, oh, that's just such a stereotypical like thing for this person to come through and be here new. And this is like one of the dumb things they're gonna do is just walk against traffic the whole time.

Mm-hmm.

Um, I think he would easily move over or—

Yeah. For, for how polite he is. He's very ignorant to the ways of society.

He is, he is. But everyone loves him because he climbs up on this thing so he can see, and a cop comes over on a horse to stop him. Next thing you know, the horse—

that's how you know it's fiction, because he didn't get tased.

Yeah, yeah, he's got a knife with him. He's standing up on top.

He's got not just a knife, he's got a I'm gonna kill everybody on the sidewalk knife.

Oh yeah, um, the machete.

But the cop gives him a ride, you know, horseback ride back to the—

And gives him his knife back.

Gives his knife, says, hey, enjoy the rest of your stay here.

Welcome to New York, you'll need this giant knife.

Yeah, there's alligators here.

Yeah, then they, they go to dinner, uh, they go to meet up with Richard. That's Sue's, uh, love interest.

Uh, oh yeah, he's a dick. He's drunk and a dick. Like the worst.

And I, and I hate the scene.

It's bad.

Yeah, I hate the scene more than the one where she's questioning like his opinions and stuff and when they're in Australia, because it's just like, oh God, like it's even more like, all right, so we already did the stereotypical thing of the, of the, you know, the foreign guy here and not knowing anything. Now we're gonna do over kind of this over-the-top stereotypical like douchey American guy. Well, he's just doing nothing but make, you know, oh, maybe they got some kangaroo steaks and some Possum. Yeah, something.

Fancy pants rich city guy, like, making fun of the outback guy.

Yeah.

Here, why don't you order for us?

And it's all about shaming him is what it is.

Yeah, yeah, 100%. He's trying to shame him. He's trying to show off a bit. Uh, you know, I don't know if he knows whether or not his fiancée probably banged him while they were in Australia.

Yeah, he probably does not know that. I don't think he knows that.

Um, but he's just like, he wants to make sure that That Mick knows that, hey, this is my woman and I'm here. And even Mick is like, hey, you guys just hang out by yourself. I'll take off and I can go find something to do. And they're like, no, no, no.

Well, they're not like that. She's like that.

Yes.

Yeah. Well, yeah. Richard would love if he just disappeared.

Yes.

To which then once he gives him, he's like, why don't you order for us? And Mick looks it over. He's like, oh, it's Italian. He's like, man, whatever that lady over there has, I think he says, whatever the fat Sheila has over there looks good. And he's going to get up to go look. And when he does, he leans in and headbutts Richard.

Headbutts him? I don't know what he does.

I thought it was a headbutt, but he knocks him out.

Yeah.

And then he's like, oh, he's drunk. Yeah. The whole point though was to shame him and to make him—

Well, to also give you a reason for Sue. Is that her name?

Yep. Yes.

To doubt her relationship.

Yes. Which is like, yeah, he's so horrible in the scene. It's like, why was she ever with him to begin with?

Yes.

Like, such a— he's like so pure, like, evil, you know?

Like, he's like absolutely terrible.

Yeah. Also, I really questioned, um, I mean, I get, you know, you, you want to impress the guy and stuff like that, but like, yeah, I— you just spent like, you know, several days with them hanging out in the outback and all this other stuff. That is not the restaurant to take him to. No, like, that's, that's definitely not a place unless you want to like show off and, you know, like, yeah, you can show them like, this is where we usually go, you know, but you could be nice about it.

Be like, yeah, yeah, I recommend, you know, try this. I know you, you know, like, you can be nice instead of just, yeah, just blatantly making fun of the man because he's uncomfortable in this place. Like, and they're like basically making out in front of him. Like, yeah, when— because he's like, we haven't seen each other in like 6 weeks.

And it's like 6 weeks. We're gonna go fuck in the bathroom.

Here's the thing though, they're like, they're like, no, no, no, we want you to be here. I'm like, oh yeah, really?

We want you to watch. That's why I brought you back to New York. Yeah, we have a whole cuck scenario that we're gonna work out.

Oh yeah, okay.

And, and so they go from this scene, which I'm like, man, this is terrible, to basically the worst scene of the whole movie, maybe. I guess the—

they go—

Oh, there's lots of bad scenes. Because he, he meets up with, uh, I'm an Italian, I can drink anybody under the table.

Yeah. Yes, it—

cab driver.

The cab driver who happens to just be off duty then. So he's at the moment— exactly, I'm gonna take Mick to go over to the bar and grab a couple drinks. And, you know, Mick's telling stories and everyone's just like, oh, this guy is crazy. And, you know, doing weird handshakes with him and everything.

Yes.

Um, let's see, uh, this lady who's flirting with him. Mick's got—

you know, we forgot to mention though is that Mick has not seen Black people outside of Aboriginal people.

Oh yeah, yeah.

So when he meets Carl Winslow earlier on, he asks him what tribe is he a part of.

Oh God.

Yeah, he's like, tribe? I'm not part of a tribe. It's like, yeah, right, whatever. So then he goes and he meets these other Black people at a bar, and, and of course we get the I'm a Black person, so I have a, I have a cool handshake I'm going to show you and stuff. I'm going to dap you up and whatnot. Uh, oh boy, there's a lot— there's lots about this scene that were like cringy, and then it gets crazy cringy.

They say things where like, I guess he just can't pick up context. Maybe he's never heard the phrases these people are telling him before.

And, and then he spits a couple phrases back to them that don't make sense either.

I like this guy, he's cool. Okay, great.

Yeah, yeah, he's flirting with the lady and, uh, his, his buddy the taxi driver pulls him aside and says, that's not a lady.

Yes, and then uses some slurs, and then Crocodile Dundee grabs, uh, her genital region to check, to confirm, and then that— everybody applauds and claps to that.

Yes, that's a rough scene.

Um, very rough.

Again, the second half of this movie to me is— it falls off so much from some of the stuff that they do in the first half.

It— as much as I hate to say it, it's very, it's very of the time.

Yeah, very much so.

Yeah.

And, uh, shamefully looking back on it, it probably got a chuckle out of my 12-year-old self.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, probably at the time. Um, and you know, and so that happens. Oh, well then we get back to the hotel the next day. Is that where we're at? And he's bathing and washing all his stuff.

Oh yeah.

This is such a weird scene.

This is a weird scene.

Uh, he's, he hasn't slept in the bed. He's sleeping on the floor.

Is he? I didn't notice that.

Yeah.

Yep. Yep. Yep.

The housekeeper comes to bring him his towels.

Mr. Mick. Yeah.

Yep. Yep. And then we get Mick's big day out. Uh, he goes to the Empire State Building.

Well, hold on, hold on, this is the weird scene.

Yeah, because Sue comes in. Oh yeah, and then does the, does the, the fake accent. Mr. Meek.

No, we're not—

Derek, you said we're only supposed to—

oh, that's true, very true.

Wow.

Oh, I broke the rules, but I edited the podcast.

No, you're right, just to get a clean take. He's Australian or something.

Yeah, she's like, Mr. Mick. And acceptable accent. Uh, and then she does that leg thing just like in the worm movie.

Yes, I was just thinking that. I was like, wait, why is this—

Isn't it weird that we keep picking movies that have like overlap like that?

There's a connection. Yeah, I started thinking about the worm. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if this movie went crazy at the end and there's a big worm that Maker's gonna have to kill.

Uh, Sorry, let's let's pause that that image there because we did we did miss after they leave the bar after he's insulted. Oh, first of the bar, he talks to the two prostitutes. Yeah, yep, and punches out their pimp. Yes, but it's it's more of that like oh you're not from around here. Oh, I saw you in the newspaper. You know the whole thing. Okay, we give we give we give we give we give you one for free. One what?

I watched this today on Amazon. I rented it for $3.99. Terry, you rented the DVD or got the DVD from the library?

I got the DVD.

You watched the streaming version from the library?

Yes.

What does he say? He says, are you gonna talk to him or are you going to screw him?

I think that's what's said on mine.

I can't remember. Okay, mine too. So they clearly— that's clearly ADR'd over because—

oh. I didn't even notice that.

Because it's a PG-13 movie, they only dropped the F-bomb once, and they drop it later on.

Okay.

So they had to fix that. But I was worried that it was fixed like, you know, Disney+ went back and like took out the butt out of Splash and stuff like that. Yeah, I'm like, are they— did they edit this for some reason 40 years later because someone might get offended in Crocodile Dundee?

This is the part that they—

After the part that is offensive. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They didn't take out the other F-word, but we're gonna leave— we'll take out— yes, we'll take out one fuck instead.

Yes, exactly.

Yeah. Uh, all right. Yeah, so now we're back to the thing. Uh, she does a little tease thing, uh, with her leg by the door, and he thinks it's the housekeeper, and then she, you know, was like, ha, yeah, hurry up, get dressed, we gotta go.

See, now I had a joke all lined up about Crocodile Dundee, think about the worm. And so I put his hat down there. Oh, but see, because Terry said think about the worm, and now it just doesn't hit the way it would have earlier.

Yeah, you can still try. You can just throw it out there. You edit it.

You could just— I mean, you edit it.

You're right.

I can—

you, you could, you could put the, you could put the whole thing about—

I'm gonna tell you what I'm not gonna do is take the time to rearrange audio. No thank you.

Yeah, you do too much Foley work. You don't have time to rearrange.

No, and there's some lackluster Foley work in this movie. Horse, horse hooves clomping. And later on there's some big-time Foley work that left me less than impressed. Yeah.

Um, all right, so now we have Mick's big day out. Uh, they go to the Empire State Building.

Um, is that where they went?

Just take— yeah, get some pictures taken there. Or, okay, well, they're—

maybe they thought they went to the World Trade Center.

Oh yeah, because they're pointing in the It's in the background. The Empire State Building's in the background. Uh, he has his first hot dog.

Oh yeah, and this is a callback too because he cooked up some like garbage like on the Outback and he's like, it tastes like shit.

Yeah, some slugs, uh, yeah, you know, worms, stuff like that for her to eat. And then he pops out a can of like beans or something instead.

And then she takes him to a hot dog stand, buys a hot dog with kraut and whatnot. And they're still at the stand where the, the purveyor of said stand is within earshot.

It isn't in on the inside joke.

No.

Oh no.

And she goes, yeah, it tastes like shit, right to the guy's face. He's like, this is my life.

Yeah, he just worked so hard to get the stand and now— wow. Yeah, right. I didn't think of that angle. That's pretty rude.

And like, aren't New York hot dog stands supposed to be like some of the best?

They're supposed to be good, I think.

Yeah, they're supposed to be good, right? Street food.

Yeah, I, I ate them quite a bit, uh, when I was there. Yeah, I mean, they're good. They're not the most amazing one.

No, I can't imagine that's like a gourmet hot dog, but if you're gonna get it, you'd be like, this is damn good. I'm glad I got this hot dog.

Yep.

Not her. No, I mean, she even got the sauerkraut on it. That's the way to do it too.

I'll be honest, when she got all the stuff on there, I was like, wow, that may be a little overkill.

That's like 100% New York dog.

But for somebody who's never had a a hot dog before? Like, I'm like, I'm like, his stomach's gonna get hurt by that. Oh God, no, Mel.

Okay, I have, I have a tangential story to tell now.

All right.

I used to work for a—

Derek was in the Outback once.

A very— no, it's— this makes me laugh, and I think about the story way too often. I used to work, I used to work for a small video game development company in Chicago. We made, we made iPhone games and stuff like that. We were doing one for Disney for Big Hero 6. Oh, and Disney was like, you need to come out here to our animation studios and talk to the director and whatnot. And we— I, I got to go out to, to Disney Studios, right? I flew out to California. I saw a, a pre-cut. This is, this is me just tooting my own horn. I got to see a cut of Big Hero 6 that still had like animatics. It was like July and it came out in November. Right?

Oh, cool.

I learned a lot about how they do animation and do movies and how insanely unfair it is to the animators. But so this is July and there are still all these pieces and they still were working out the beginning. They didn't know how it was going to start properly. And what I saw was totally different from what the final version was. But at the end, after a whole day of movies and meeting people, they're like, we're going to take you out to dinner. They're like, okay, great. And they took us to a hamburger place called Umami Burger. Oh, I've heard of this. And these places exist, they're around. I hadn't heard of it before, but it's Umami Burger. And the one guy is like, do you know what umami is? It's like, no, I really don't know. And he's like, it is the 6th flavor or the 5th flavor. There's like sweet and salt and, uh, safe. It is Japanese and blah blah blah. And there's all this stuff. Okay, this sounds cool. Like, I would have been 100% happy going to, uh, In-N-Out, right? Because we don't have those.

Yes.

And, and I was talking to one of the producers and she's like, yeah, yeah, I'm more of an In-N-Out person. I'm like, yeah, me too. We go to this place and we're sitting outside and we get the menu. It's got all these burgers and they're named after like, uh, celebrities and bands and stuff like that. Like, okay. And he's, he's like, if you've never had an Umami Burger, I recommend you just have This burger because you can't handle it.

Wow.

Now, mind you, I am at this at this time. I was I was a pretty fit individual, but I was ample at the time, right? Like I've had my share of burgers, young man.

Yes.

Don't tell me what I can't.

Probably yeah, right.

I can handle a hamburger with beef. He couldn't just do to this burger that's going to make it so un. Intolerable to my, my, my, my flyover state taste buds.

Uncultured taste buds out.

Like, I think about this way too often.

Nice taste buds. I would think your, your flyover state guts probably is what you're thinking.

I eat hamburgers four times a week, motherfucker.

All I had to say was, this is my recommendation for someone who hasn't had it before. That's it. Yes. Oh, cool.

That part because he wanted me to get just like. Okay, just get the plain burger. Don't get anything on it. I'm like, what are you talking about?

And again, this is the waiter?

No, this is a guy that I was— from Disney that was telling me this.

So would you be like, well, then why did we come here?

Yes, exactly. We could have gone to McDonald's and saved you guys at least $8 per burger, right? Like, come on.

Same results probably in the end too, though.

Oh, it was— and you know what? The burger was fine. It was good.

Did you just get the one he recommended?

No, hell no. I got the one that had all types of shit on it, like crazy cheeses and—

Yeah, okay.

Yeah, like, come on, condescending to me like I can't handle a burger. I think about that way too often. I still get angry about it and I don't know why.

I don't blame you.

When did Big Hero 6 come out? Like a long time ago.

A long time ago. Yeah, it still has one that haunts you. Yeah.

I think about this dude telling me like You know what, we'll get you the kids menu. You know how the kids menu always has like the watered-down—

Would you like some chicken nuggets, sir?

Yeah, exactly.

That was over 10 years ago.

Yeah. Wow.

Yeah. Uh, I mean, yeah, he might as well just been like, here, here's a Booster Seat for you, let's get this in them.

He may have. I can't remember what his name is, but I can picture him though.

Oh, this guy.

It's one thing for the waiter to be like, hey, you might want to not go But like, for the guy to be like, hey, we're coming here, but don't eat the thing that we came here for.

Don't, don't indulge because you can't handle it. You're from Chicago.

Yeah, which is also known for like food and delicious— like, it's not like you're coming from like Antarctica where all you have to eat are penguins.

Like, yeah, yeah.

Um, I've done nothing but sustain on penguins for the last 14 years. Will I be able to handle this hamburger?

Now, now, Derek, when you were done eating the hamburger, did you stop a thief from stealing an old woman's, uh, purse?

I did. I— so we were outdoors and they had candles on the tables. I picked up the candle. It was hot as hell. That's why I was able to throw it so far, uh, because I wanted to get out of my hand.

Really, the power of pain propelled it.

Yeah, the power of pain compels you. Yeah, the power of pain compels you.

This guy steals the purse from an old lady and he Josh Mallard'd that. Yeah, he picks up a can of, uh, because she had a, she had a grocery bag in her hand as well. He picks up a can of corn and just like—

Was it corn? Are you sure it was corn?

I don't know. It was a can of something.

It was a can.

It could have been dog food. And he nicely flings that thing, you know, a good city block.

Oh, gets him in stride right in the head.

And drops the dude.

Yeah, that dude is a quarterback, man.

He angled it perfectly. Like, he didn't— like, it could have gone so wrong and hit any other person in the street.

Yes, he throws it into a very busy street also.

Yeah, there are hundreds, hundreds of people on the sidewalk and he hits the one that's running.

I would have loved it if they extended the scene and he had to try like 5 times, hit like a bunch of other people first.

There's 5 different cans in the thing and he's like—

The Blu-ray has an out— the outtakes. They, they did that They did that for real. The guy ran and he threw it. They're like, cut, as he's taking out— yeah, one stunt person after another.

A street full of stunt people walking by. Just—

yeah, Mickey, you hit him in the lower back. You hit him in the lower back, Paul. We gotta— it's gotta be the head. Oh, geez.

Crikey.

Yeah. Um, so then, so much like I said, I thought it was weird that they took him to that one restaurant. Now she takes him to like a art show or something? Party?

She takes him to a fucking coke party.

Well, I mean, yeah, it's a very like, um, yeah, but he's like, if he's already a fish out of water in New York, I mean, you're putting him in like the deep end again here.

Why are you doing this? Like, why not go like check out the subway? That's pretty cool, right? You know, like stuff like that.

Yeah, like, why are you— why are you hard drugs? This, like, whatever this party is that you're taking him to Um, they do a callback basically to the offensive joke from earlier.

Yes. Yep.

Um, but this time the person seems to be into it a little bit more. And then the whole thing wraps up with he, he sees a guy doing, uh, doing coke, which at— when IMDb listed as, um, Coke Snorter is the, is the character.

That's his character name?

Yep.

What a credit to add to your—

Coke snorter. It's like, can we not just give my character a name, please?

Donald the Coke snorter.

Yeah.

And Mick sees the guy snorting it and he's like, oh, your nose is stuffed up? Here, why don't you try this? For some reason, there is a boiling kettle.

Yes. Makes sense.

Ready to go. He pours all the Coke into a bowl, pours the hot water in with it, and then puts it you know, a towel over the guy's head. And he's like, here, now just breathe deeply in here.

He was, he was seconds. Like, if he changes up a little bit, gets some baking soda, he's making crack.

Maybe he knows how to make that. Yeah, yeah.

Crikey.

That's more his speed. Cracky.

That's a, that's a, that's a— but that's more of a side story where now the guy who was storing it is suddenly like, wait a minute, I got something new here.

Yes, it wasn't the CIA, it was the goddamn Australians.

Yeah, yeah. But Mick never knows that he's done this. He continues on with his day, uh, and everything. But yeah, he just— it, uh, this whole scene again, this bothers me again. It just— it's just over too over the top of— like, you— again, it's one of those scenes setting up for him to seem uncomfortable the whole time.

It is so— everything is so on the nose. There's no subtlety to any element of this movie. No.

They leave the party and we're at about the 1 hour and 15 minute mark of this movie.

Oh, boy.

When we finally get the one line that everybody knows in this movie, guy walks up, asks him, hey, man, you have a lighter? And Mick's like, yeah, sure. And he goes, all right, give me your wallet too. And he pulls out this little switchblade knife and Mick's like, he's not backing down. She's like, he's got a knife. He's like, what? A knife? That's not nice. Oh, that is nice. This is a knife. And pulls out the giant—

his giant Bowie knife.

And then Slices the guy's jacket up, so basically assaults him. Um, and the kid takes off.

It is so— the, the Foley work on this, the sound effect work. And then you see his, like, his coat is all sliced up.

His Michael Jackson coat's all sliced up. And then Mick's like, ah, it's just kids being kids.

Yes.

No messing around. And she's like, dude, he was like, no harm, no foul.

I'm from Australia.

Sliced up his jacket for— he was probably gonna run even if he didn't do that.

You call that knife? This is a sword. Oh shit, he pulled out a katana. Yeah, this motherfucker's got a sword. Get out of here.

And, and I'll be honest, I was very shocked. I'm like, there's only like, you know, 10 minutes left in the movie at this point. 10, 15 minutes.

Oh, there's about 15. I'm like, you know how I know? Because I constantly moused over the window to see how much time was left.

I kind of sleep because I was watching on my iPad and, uh, I was getting down to 1% power.

I was like, oh, I was getting down to 1% carrying.

Yeah, I was like, please, please get me through this before— don't, don't die before the end of the movie.

I wish that I had a, like, visible, like, chart, like, you know, like charging symbol that said, like, a percent of carrying and it's, like, slowly going down. Just—

well, maybe that wouldn't be that great, but it'd be funny if people could see it.

Yeah. That might reveal too much about me if that was true.

Terry's care meter's way down.

People coming to work, yeah, that's talking to me about problems at work, and I'm just like, my little meter's like—

It's in the red. Do you want to go to care saving mode?

No, no, just let me die. If it goes to zero, I die.

So then we go, we get the thing where we get introduced to Sue's dad, and we find out he's the one who owns the paper.

Yeah, that's a good one.

Just let me die. All right, go on.

I'd rather die than care about this. And then they, they go to a party at the house, at her dad's house.

Oh yeah.

The big estate. Um, he does the thing with the, you know, the little bullhorns and he calms the 2 dogs down.

What happened? I don't remember this.

Yeah, there's dogs. Oh great, the dogs are out.

2 big Rottweilers come running up barking and he, he Puts the little bullhorns up.

Okay, not an actual bullhorn, but like—

no, no, I don't remember that part. Yeah, no, like the Texas Longhorns, uh, horns down. And he does the whole thing he does again, calms him down.

Um, so like, one way to stop these dogs.

But then like they go in and it's this— and they're having this like dinner party. This is now the 3rd time that you've just put him in the same scene.

Yes.

Yeah.

The restaurant, the coke party, and now this.

Yeah.

And to make things even worse, Richard is like, hey, I'd like to get married to you, Sue. Oh, God. And he goes to get engaged to her. Mick and Sue just hooked up the night before again, I think.

Yes.

What's going on? No idea this is happening. You've been gone for 6 weeks and he missed you and now he thinks he wants to marry you or whatever. And so then Mick is like, all right, well, then he just, he takes off.

What's another name for Australia?

Land Down Under.

Down Under.

Mm-hmm.

What else is down under?

The devil?

No, your genitals. They're down under. They're down under. So what happens down under stays down under.

Uh-huh.

Right?

Yeah. But they were in New York. They were in New York the night before.

It's still down under.

What happens to my genitals stays in Australia.

Yep. It makes sense to me. I see the logic.

So then Mick decides it's time to take off. And yeah, and, uh, Gus is gonna drive him back to the hotel. He's like, let's get some liquor. The limo driver has a full bottle right there.

He's like, medicine.

Yeah, it's kind of a weird situation. Like, I get that Mick's fallen for Sue, and like, it's a very It's mixed signals. It's very mixed signals.

Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, she's leading him on the whole time just to get our, just to get our article down under.

Yeah.

And he, and then he decides he's gonna get out and walk a bit. And as he does, he's gonna walk about, walk a bit, walk about. He sees 2 more sex workers. He thinks this is the 2 that he's already met.

The previous ones that he had a conversation with.

Yep.

And also met one of them at the coke party.

Yeah, she was there with her dad.

True. They were in like similar outfits too, so it was kind of—

yeah, they look nothing— they look nothing like the other two.

But it almost felt like a trap. Like it was like the— they're like the pimp guy, like, was setting up this to like get him to walk over there.

We're gonna get that goddamn Australian if it's the last thing I do.

Yep. So then the pimp that he punched earlier Pops out there. It's like, all right, Mick knocks him out again almost.

Say that again.

He's got—

he's got— The pimp that he punched earlier popped out there. The pimp that he punched earlier popped out there. The pimp that he pumped— see, you can't do it.

It's hard to do.

Mm-hmm.

His— like, he's got 2 henchmen with him this time.

Yes. And they are not menacing in any way.

Nope. But they are strong enough to take out Mick or not— but not get knocked out by a punch from him like everyone else does.

Like, they could have done better casting on these guys, these 2 toughs. They get like, are you over 6 feet? Yes. Do you weigh 240 pounds? Yes. And there he is. That's it. There's like nothing to him. My 3 chins will stop you.

Do you, do you know how to read?

No.

Good.

There's no words for you. Like, there's nothing.

There's no words in the script for you, so don't worry about it.

People whatsoever.

Yeah. Uh, and right when it looks like they're about to like, uh, take Mick away and probably kill him or something like that. The limo comes flying up and just—

Thank goodness.

Runs them over.

What if that had just been the end of the movie?

Without prejudice too. He runs them over so much so that they bash his windshield in.

Yeah. One of those guys.

He kills the pimp, obviously, with the car.

He had 2 of them.

He's got a boomerang with him.

No.

And he pulled off the The like that weird little spoiler antenna thing off the back.

Oh yeah, that's what it is. And he flings it like a boomerang, hits the one guy who's running away. Oh, uh, which then Mick is like, are you sure you're not from a tribe?

But that doesn't make any sense. Why would he throw it like a boomerang and not give it to Mick from Australia?

Give it to Mick.

Yes, who knows? It's another one of the things that the second half of this movie is just kind of like, yeah. So next day Mick is, uh, he's Checks out of the hotel.

Yep.

Uh, says goodbye.

They're all gonna miss him though.

Yep.

Everyone there loves him because everybody at the hotel loves him, just like Pretty Woman.

Yeah. And, uh, so he goes to leave. He's gonna walk to the subway. Sue shows up. She's like— her dad drives up with the limo with her, and she's like— he's like, you sure you're gonna do this? She's like, yeah, yeah.

Dad. So the 2 other times we've seen the dad, he's ready to just like fillet Boyfriend, right? They love this guy.

It's the editor of the paper that—

You're gonna be my son-in-law. I love you so much. You're like the son I never had. There's all this shit going on. And now he's like, if this is what you want, honey.

She's like, yep, it is.

And less than 12 hours from being proposed to at that dinner, they had a senator at it.

No, yeah, because they want to make sure to introduce them to him.

Yeah, we gotta introduce Crocodile Dundee to the senator. Like, what difference is that gonna make? He's a senator. You'd think he's, he's met people from around the world, right? If you were in legislature, the chances of you meeting someone from another country are high.

Yeah, usually. Yeah, probably.

Crocodile Dundee is not going to impress an elected official, the senator of New York. is going to be like, oh, you're from Australia? Who gives a fuck? I'm sorry.

Yeah, it's a state senator, not—

Oh yeah, that could be it too. Oh, he's from District 14. Oh yeah, that district.

Yeah. So she runs after him, uh, kicking off her heels as she goes. I gotta say, I mean, I lived in New York. I don't remember it being that far away from any subway station. But man, she seems to go several blocks.

And here is my second grievance with the Foley work, or maybe third. She takes off her shoes and she runs bare feet— barefoot on the sidewalk. It's a very lazy slap, slap, slap of feet.

Oh, sorry, I thought you're gonna say your second or third grievance with the film. I was like, really?

No, I, I had, I had less—

No, the Foley work, the Foley work was better than the film, but still, yeah.

I couldn't concentrate on the Foley work because I was like, oh, she's about to walk into a subway with no shoes or socks on.

No shoes on. I know.

Gotta put shoes on.

I was like, oh my God, that's just disgusting.

I've never been to a New York subway, but the Chicago L, boy, you have to like put baggies over your shoes when you walk up to those sometimes. Oh yeah.

No, that's pretty much the same. So they get there and she's trying to get down there and it is a packed station and she's yelling to get his attention. Guy with a bit of a Jamaican accent, maybe? I don't know.

It's a very loose accent that goes with the scene. It does whatever it wants to.

He's like, what do you want, lady?

It's like my Alton accent.

It is.

Yeah. He's like, lady, what do you want? What are you yelling about? And she's like, I'm trying to get that guy over there in the black hat.

With the hat.

So he yells down and this other guy with the construction hat happens to look over. He's like, hey, the one next to you. And he gets in touch with Mick and they do this back and forth telephone game thing.

Yes.

Conversation where she's like, hey, don't leave. I'm not marrying Richard. I love you. This whole thing. But they're going back and forth the whole thing. And then Mick's like, all right, I'll come. Yeah, fine, we can do this. But he can't get through because it's jam-packed. So he just has people lift him up and then he It's not even crowd surfing. He just walks over the people.

He literally steps on people's heads.

Yeah. And, but everyone's cheering and laughing as he goes.

Yes.

And I'm like, all right, well, at least he has shoes on, so that's fine. It's not the nastiness of her feet.

I don't want those shoes on my head though. No.

How tall is Paul Hogan, you think? 6'5, 5'11?

Oh, he's probably like 6 foot-ish.

Okay. Yeah. And, and he is slim, moderate athletic build. So what do you think he is, like 180, 190?

Yeah, he's in good shape. Yeah.

And he's got boots on. He's fucking stepping on my head. I'm not happy about that one bit.

No. Yeah, no, it's— and he, and he didn't fall once the entire way over.

No, he didn't stumble. He didn't stutter. He didn't do anything.

And the other thing he didn't do was kiss her at the end. They just kind of hugged.

They just hugged. It was a warm embrace.

Yep, you get a little freeze frame at the end and credits.

I could not believe that was the end of the film. I was like, wait, really? That's it? Like, I was like, oh well, surely, you know, the— because there's not— I was like, okay, well, I guess the evil boyfriend, or they're gonna have some sort of conversation, argument or something, you know? Like, no, that's just it. I guess we're done. That's all we need to hear. Like, but it's so weird. That whole final scene just felt like Maybe that's in the sequel. Oh, maybe.

Maybe.

I hope not.

It's like, I don't want to see the sequel.

It, uh, it made me think this final scene, like, how can we extend this to reach an hour 30 minutes? We gotta still need to kill some time. Let's just have them do telephone game.

And it's like, this seems so pointless because like I thought, okay, well, I think somebody looked in, they were like, hey, this is supposed to be a rom-com and so far we just have comedy. Let's, uh, put in something.

The romance angle.

It seems like a rom-com, uh, type scene.

But it's like, well, the whole point of when, you know, like the telephone game, you yell at somebody, somebody else says something else, something, they start to say it different. And they kind of do that, but not in a funny way. It's just like, what was the point of that? Just have her yell at him and then they reconnect.

And it's not that he's not that far down that he shouldn't be able to hear her.

No, no, no.

You should be able to hear her say, hey, get over here so we can talk.

Yeah.

And, and just kind of call it a day, uh, at that. But then, you know, freeze frame at the end, which is what a lot of the movies back then like to do, uh, and it's, uh, and that's a wrap.

I really, really hate the ending because it plays out like this weird fantasy of the girl just immediately falling, like Had they even engaged enough for her to fall in love with somebody? Like, I know love is a weird, mysterious, and fickle creature and all this stuff, but they hadn't even done enough to like, like even understand one another enough to love.

2 days in the outback were magical.

Yeah, but that was a long time ago. She probably banged drunk, uh, fiancé-to-be that night. Right?

Like there's just a lot going on here that's very strange, and that just really doesn't. Like there's lots just stuff that's kind of like left to you making assumptions.

It almost plays out like a PG letters to Penthouse from back in the day. Dear Penthouse, I was on Walkabout. Yes, exactly. And I met this woman. Like, there's just a weird, just not complete emotional arc or story associated with it.

Yeah, maybe all it took was like she's been with her boyfriend for so long and didn't realize he was bad, and then finally met somebody else, any other person, and was like, wow, I mean, that's in comparison, like, he's so much better.

It was '80s, it was the '80s, so there was like that— well, I mean, there's still that But I mean, the height of like that Wall Street narcissism, like what American Psycho is based upon. So what if he was like American Psycho and she just didn't realize it?

Yeah, I mean, he's not that far off, I don't think. But I mean, yeah, he does nothing, uh, there's no redeeming— no thing for, for Richard at all. He's terrible throughout the whole thing. So yeah, meanwhile Mick is saving her from a Uh, an alligator. Uh, yes, he is.

Uh, and a snake too.

A snake. Muggers, uh, you know, trying to steal his—

yes.

And so, I mean, she's, you know, mostly, uh, she is, uh, connected to him based on trauma.

Yeah.

Paul Hogan getting the, um, the Golden Globe for the best actor in a musical or comedy. I mean, I guess. I mean, but his I don't think he does enough. Like, there's not enough variety of the things that Mick Dundee is doing to really, like, make it like that type of— that great of a role.

He says a few things. He says, this is a man's country, when they're out there in the outback, right?

Yeah.

Like, and that lets you know he's serious about it. This is man's— this is not a place for a woman, but I will, I will accommodate you. For your story, right? There's that moment, and then there's also the I don't have time to think about things, issues, things that might be important to other people. The only thing that's important to me is killing crocodiles. Wow! It's deep, right?

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And then you know through the movie he learns to maybe you know open his mind.

Kind of, except for the fact that he's like fuck this shit. I'm leaving. Yeah, until she says I love you.

I don't think he's—I don't think he's changed his mind about anything at all. No, he's still just gonna do whatever he wants to do. Yeah, and now now she's just gonna go along with him basically at this point. He has not changed. Um, yeah.

Thank you for acquiescing to my lifestyle. Yes, you know, Sheila.

I almost wish the movie had just been like the reporter in Australia, like learning the yes. the weirdness from there rather than having a little bit of both. Because yeah, I think like I'm with Keith, like I think I prefer the Australia stuff better. I didn't love it, but I thought it was better. And when it goes to New York, it just becomes offensive and it's like the same beat every single time, basically.

Yeah, it— and again, I, I'm— again, I'm gonna say I think 1986 Australian fish out of water movie like really was just like something big and new for everybody, and they were like, oh, this is amazing.

Like, yeah, I guess.

And, and the amount of money that it made and stuff like that is like, that's just insane. And like, only half of this movie is really watchable anymore. And that's, you know, the part, all the part in Australia, even with the weird kangaroo skin, the thing. Um, but like, all the stuff that happens once they get to New York is just, it's just so like overused. Or like things like, yeah, you can't we can't have those scenes anymore.

I will say the Australia stuff is better thinking that he put on the kangaroo skin.

Yeah, it makes it a million times better. It does.

Yeah, undoubtedly. Like, I would watch a movie solely about that man who puts on kangaroo skins to shoot at— all right, hunters.

So, um, we're gonna put this right after Bataclan? Possibly.

But, uh, overall, yeah. Well, okay. Yeah. What did we think about Crocodile Dundee?

Terry, let's start with you because you'd never seen it before. Oh yes.

Hmm. You're the Dundee virgin. That's true.

What'd you think?

But by the way, I— everybody listening at home, I think you already know where we're going with our thoughts on this, but we're gonna do the official way that we do it around here.

That's true. Um, I Didn't love it. I thought it was, like I said, I liked Australia stuff okay, but I didn't really love it either. The movie feels like it has a hard time figuring out what it wants to be because yeah, like we were talking, it kind of feels like it could go into any direction. Is it a horror movie? Is it a thriller? Is it supposed to be a comedy? Oh, there's romance in it too, I guess. Like it doesn't really commit to anything. It's very vague and doesn't. I guess decide like, okay, maybe we need to explore some sort of idea. No, the whole idea is just we came up with this funny character, Crocodile Dundee. That's his name. And he's Australian, I guess. That's just their idea. Stereotypical Australian, I guess, even. And it wasn't the worst thing ever. Like, I kind of watched it and was a little bored at times, you know. Well, sometimes More than little. Uh, I don't know, like, it's not the worst thing ever. I don't want to make it sound like it's the worst movie I've ever seen, but it wasn't that good. I was like, I'm not sure why this was such a big hit back in the day, but yeah, hey, whatever. I don't know, I wasn't a big fan of it.

Honestly, it's definitely of the time. Now, Keith, when you suggested it last week, I cringed a little because it's one of those movies I hadn't seen since I'd originally seen it. And it was a thing that was like, I remembered it being good, but I didn't remember anything specific about the movie because it's been 40 fucking years. I'm like, oh God, we're gonna watch this movie, it's gonna be bad. And it was. It did not fail in that regard. Um, I did not laugh at anything that was intentionally funny for this comedy. I didn't think the romance particularly was particularly rom for this rom-com. Um, it just was— it was fish out of water versus fish out of water. Which one do you relate to more? And then go. I like— and it ends in such a— when I saw there was only 13 minutes left and it wasn't— nothing was resolved, it was that proposal scene.

Mm-hmm.

I'm like, how does this even work? Like, what's happening after this? Um, that happened. The boomerang, the I know you're part of a tribe, no Harlem something or other. It's like, this is— these are all things that resonated with a very white 1986 audience.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And yeah, I forgot to mention, yeah, it's kind of offensive at times.

There's a lot of— there's a lot of things that range from Mildly offensive and casual racist to outright offensive.

Uh, I love the movie. No, I'm just kidding.

There's part of me that's like, I knew it.

Yeah, I was waiting for— I was like, yep, yep, yep.

Derek, much like you, I, I hadn't seen it since like, you know, almost 40 years. It's one of those things that's just best left. And yeah, well, this is what I do. I, I find movies that I haven't seen in a long time and I, I I want to rewatch them. I want to have a reason to rewatch them. Yep. Uh, however, unlike when we rewatched Cloverfield and I was like, oh, awesome, and I actually still enjoyed it, I was like, oh, you know what, this one's probably not gonna be good. And then it just confirmed it for me. Yeah. Um, especially the whole second half of the movie. I mean, I can't say enough about— And also, I watched about 10 minutes of it yesterday, and then, uh, it was late at night, so I was like, I'm gonna go sleep, I'll watch the rest of it before we record, but I also took some time today to write down all my notes. Once I saw that it had all these nominations, I think I was like, oh, this is actually going to be much better than I'm even expecting it to be. And it's not. I'm very confused how this was Oscar nominated for a screenplay. I don't understand. It's not good. It's clichéd stuff. It's offensive stuff. you know, there's a couple good bits here and there, but also there's these weird, you know, the weird like conversations that don't go anywhere.

Yeah.

And, and are also like, oh, we really didn't need to know that much about Crocodile Dundee. I don't care what his political beliefs are, you know, let's, let's just move on. Yeah, so it, I, it landed right about where I was kind of, I think, kind of expecting it to. I was hoping for a little bit more, um, I was hoping for maybe a little more nostalgic, oh, this actually isn't too bad. But yeah, it's No, I'm never gonna watch this again.

No, and thankfully. I didn't remember the first half being in Australia, the second half being in—

I didn't remember it being almost perfectly 50/50, but yeah, I, I remember that's how she, uh, found him and then brought him back.

Uh, I didn't remember anything other than the knife.

I think the— I think the sequel, they start in New York and then they have to go back to the Outback.

Oh Christ. Oh, it's the opposite.

They have to go, uh, save Walter, I think.

It's a mirror reflection of the first film.

It just ping-pongs back. Yeah. And then the third one, they start in Australia and go back to New York— or Los Angeles. Yes. Yeah, yeah, it's a different part. It's even wackier than New York. It's Hollywood Boulevard, motherfucker.

Oh, it's even crazier. And then there's the, uh, meta sequel about the very whatever Dunby, the very excellent Dunby.

The unbearable weight of being Dundee.

Yeah. So, uh, sorry guys. I—

There's no reason to apologize. That's why we're, we're fumblers, man.

I— yeah, you know what? I— yeah, I really feel like I fumbled this time.

You didn't fumble. We fumbled. And not just us. Yeah, Dundee fumbled the bag big time. Well, he didn't fumble the bag at all because he made a bunch of money, didn't he?

Oh yeah, goddamn it. Got a full franchise out of this thing.

Yeah, they made like four movies.

See, this is the kind of shit that because it existed, a whole generation of us, Keith, thought that being mediocre was successful. This is why everybody, everybody's like, "Oh, I could do that." So I'm gonna make the most dumbass shit ever.

Now, no, no therapy needed anymore. Derek has tied it all back to Crocodile Dundee.

It is. It's Crocodile Dundee. That's the problem.

That's like, uh, Crocodile Dundee and, um, uh, mid-'80s baseball cards where, yep, guys look like just some schlub off the street and you thought, yeah, I could be a pro athlete too.

If you can grow a mustache and swing a bat, you're, you're in.

Yeah, it looks like if you just walk over in the dugout and drink a beer, you're probably a major league ballplayer.

Oh, they smoked in the dugout in the '80s.

Yeah, and, and if you write a clichéd script like Crocodile Dundee, you're gonna get, you know, nominated and make tons of money.

Someone will get you.

I know we fumbled, but did the internet happen to fumble there?

Well, on November 8th, 2020, Sales-282 had this to say. This is a 10-star classic. Wow. I have no— I'm going to read this word for word. I haven't read it yet, but I, I know how it's going to go. I have no idea why everyone does see this as 10-star. It— there's no punctuation. It's got everything needed to make a classic and everything new movies lack: authenticity, originality, location. The film and filmography— filmography is stunning. It has a genius of a comic actor in the role of his lifetime, first period. Okay.

Wow.

Hogan stars and wrote the whole brilliant idea. It's also a concept movie.

Oh, okay.

Concept movie. Wild crocodile man in the outback talks to the animals, lives off the land. New work reporter goes in search of the legend and fives— fives the love of her life. It says F-I-V-E-S, the love of her life.

In the film And in real life—

What concept is this?

This is a gem of a lifetime. That's one word. A-L-I-F-E-T-I-M-E movie. A sort of Australian Tarzan with charm, comedy, and romance. Love it. No endless CGI gadgets needed. Ah, Hollywood, are you listening? No. L-I-S-T-E-N-D-I-N-G.

The, the, the knife— the knife was CGI the whole time.

Didn't think so, LOL. 8 found it helpful, 2 not so much. 10 out of 10.

I, I hope Hollywood's not listening.

Oh, okay. Do either of you guys have a movie that's a perfect 10 out of 10 in your opinion?

Keith, this is not an on-the-spot sort of thing.

I mean, you don't have to tell me. You don't have to tell me the name of it.

Yes, there are movies that I think are—

I probably do have a 10 out of 10.

So, okay, because I, man, I really find it hard to even think that any movie, even like one I super enjoy, is a perfect 10 out of 10. So to say this movie of all movies would be it, that is just— there's somebody that's— it's not, you know, it's the lights aren't fully on when you write 10 out of 10 for this.

Yeah, it's, it's tough. And then on May 29th, 2006— so this is a long time ago, this is over 20 years ago, about 20 years ago— Cedric_Catsuits had this to say.

I really wanted to say underscore entertainer.

Disgusting. The 1980s was a period when greed and selfishness reached an all-time high whilst Taste reached an all-time low. Words. This movie perfectly reflects this. Laugh at the ridiculous outfits and wince at the desire to be sickeningly ostentatious. Jesus Christ, man. By all means. But this movie has a much darker side to it. The hero is an arrogant Selfish, chauvinistic bully who kills animals illegally for a living. As this is clearly a vehicle for Paul Hogan, one wonders why on earth he did it. Maybe he is proud of this character. I have no idea. But if this is your typical Australian, then I just don't get the attraction. Dundee takes what he wants without thought for the consequences, and the notion of altruism is entirely unknown to him. As long as he can have what he wants, all is well. He's probably unaware of the existence of other souls, and, and what he wants, he usually takes with force. Personally, I find the slaughter of animals for their skins Or for sport to be abhorrent, and that alone should be a reason enough to ban ban. Wow! Ban this film. Strong take. Furthermore, it glamorizes brutality and power traits that are also common to. It glamorizes brute. This is this is this is Cedric underscore catsuits.

Uh-oh.

Furthermore, it glamorizes brutality and power, traits that are also common to rapists and pedophiles.

Boy.

Enough said.

What is happening?

I don't know. I clicked to reveal more and that's what I got. This is a— this is a pit.

Like, it just goes deeper and deeper and I'm like, well, I thought I got what he was talking about and then he just kept going and going. I'm like, okay dude, you're not that bad. It's not that bad.

What is somebody expecting when they write a review like this on IMDb? I don't know. Like, are they expecting like, oh my God, there's people at IMDb that are reviewing this that are gonna go, this man is a fresh take on things? Like, I mean, it is fresh. Oh, we like—

wait till you get this ratio.

Like the way he writes these things. Like, it— I don't— that seems like you got way too much free time on your hands. Besides watching the movie itself, he just then wrote this very over-the-top letter about how it's wrong. And how many people like was it helpful to anybody?

I haven't gotten there yet. Ten found it helpful. Oh, they're still writing stuff. Ten found it helpful. Ninety-three not so much. One out of ten.

I mean, look, the movie is not a one and it's not a ten.

That's an overwhelmingly amount of people.

Definitely these people are like. What a ratio. Like, dude, you are, uh, what, what are you drinking tonight while you wrote this?

Oh wow, that is funny. That, like, because at first I was like, okay, he doesn't like it, but then it started to feel like he was using the movie to kind of just like channel his own inner rage about something.

I just went off it because it was from 2006 and said Disgusting was the title. I'm like, I want to hear what this guy says. No, I didn't.

No, I wish I had. Yeah, that seemed like—

I won't give him the thumbs down. I'll, I'll be passive on it, but come on, Cedric_Catsuits. Oh, I can't talk tonight. And like, he used words. I was like, goddamn it, man.

Wow, that's an amazing review.

That was, that was an amazing review.

He, he did give Tomb Raider 8 out of 10.

Come on. Okay, hold on. We have to see what else Cedric_Catsuits has rated. He's got some interesting movies on here that I never either heard of or I've never been like, wow, I want to see that.

Oh, is it— is this, uh, could this be a future theme?

Cedric_Catsuits movies?

Oh, I'm sure he'd be honored.

Shit, if somebody ever Emails us and says, "Hey, these are my picks. We might do yours a month." Oh yeah. We might bring them on as a guest.

We'll give them as a guest for a final episode.

We're not picking anybody random though.

That would be awesome though, wouldn't it?

Yeah. Or that would be the that'd be the goal.

Yes, to have somebody write in and be like, "Hey, this is one of you motherfuckers out there listening." What do we say that their names were going to be? The Fumblers. What the what?

Like our fans? Yes. The Fumble-Ruskies? No.

Bumble-Eyes?

No. I, I came up with the name and Terry's like, we need to workshop that more.

I can't remember. Yeah, and then he didn't work—

and then he didn't workshop it.

It was offensive, whatever it was. If any of you offensive fuckers out there come up there and email us and say, this is my IMDb, this is what I've reviewed, we will do that as a theme for a month. Yes, I guarantee it.

You can send us voicemails and we'll put it in the show, your review.

Oh my God, I, I would love that. That'd be awesome.

Look, a long, a long time ago, Terry emailed, sent an email to a show Derek and I were doing, and now look, the 3 of us are all fumbling together.

That's true. That is true. Wow.

Um, so I mean, you— there is, there's a power there to sending in stuff to us. So please, please Email us in. We will, uh, and we'll review whatever. We'll pick movies strictly off of what you reviewed on IMDb.

Moral of the story is when you email people that are starving for attention, anything can happen.

Yeah, look where it got me, guys. Now I'm on a show with him and it's working out really well for me.

You never know what'll happen. That's true. Oh, but you know what has to happen now?

We gotta pick a wild card.

We gotta pick a wild card.

Oh, true, true.

We have each selected a movie from the numerous that we've mentioned. Keith, you chose Tommy. Tommy. Terry, you chose Dracula's Dog. And I chose Triple X: Return of Xander Cage. Not the first Triple X, not even Triple X 2.

Oh, Jesus. Oh God, I forgot that. I was like, man, if it shows up in the first Triple X, that's It's fine, whatever. No, no, it's gonna go to the third one. Oh God, I forgot about that.

And I've put them on, uh, a random spinner that I found online, and I'm gonna click the button to spin, and whatever it lands on, we're gonna watch. You guys ready?

Yeah, I'm so excited.

1, 2, 3, click!

Oh, no whammies, no whammies, no whammies, no whammies. Oh my God, you bastard!

For the second month, my pick gets chosen. Return of Xander. Triple X Return of Xander. I can't believe we're watching that. It was brought up one week. I don't remember the context, but here we are. I have a list continuing.

It's because the, um, that old guy from that movie.

Yes, the old guy. Alligator. Alligator is on the soundtrack. Even though we can't figure out what he's on the soundtrack for.

He was credited on the soundtrack, but there's a different guy with his same name. IMDb got mixed up. He's not even on that song.

It was 100% an accident.

This is, this is the most, um, the most wildcard wildcard option we could get. Like, there's, there's no real thread connecting anything here.

Don't, don't blame, uh, don't blame us for putting on the list. Blame IMDb for even making such a mix-up in the first place.

This is IMDb's fault.

Well, if you're playing at home, everybody, uh, looks like it's on Paramount Plus.

There's only one thing left to do.

I'm just glowing right now.

I— me too. I am, I am stunned. I might go watch the movie right now. Oh, that's how excited I am.

I'm gonna watch it every day until the—

I have it memorized.

We're gonna reenact it, read the lines.

This is so stupid. Oh, that's me. You're gonna see me dressed up like Vin Diesel. You shave your head. I may do it. Oh, that sounds great.

Next week we're all showing up in our Vin Diesel costume.

We're all talking like Vin Diesel, looking like Vin Diesel. Oh man, it's gonna be great. Oh, myself. We have to end this the way we end every episode, gents.

Come under a lot of fire lately.

People acting pissed. I'm a sinner.

But no man's had troubles like Reverend Ray Porter.

Who are you?

I'm the end of your world.

Pass the ammo! Welcome to the Tower of Bethlehem.

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