The Shaw Brothers: The Super Infra-Man (1975)

Gathered together from the cosmic reaches of the universe. Here in this great screening room with comfortable recliners are the most powerful forces of good ever assembled. Keith.

Like why? Why did he pick that guy to become Infra man just because he was able to jump out of a burping building and land right on the sea?

Terry, a man's eating worms in it. It's like I said, it's got everything.

Derek, I know we shouldn't do it, but why not take all of our trash and just launch it into the sun? And the power twins, Zap and Jordan with their magical lemur Snort ded to fumbling their way through movies one forgotten gem at a time. This week we watched the 1975 Chinese Superman, the Super Inframan. This is fumbling through film. Come here, creatures. I summon all of you to attend. Be silent, all of you. I've opened the surface of the earth. It's time to attack. I've given the Earthlings an ultimatum. Either they agree to become my slaves, or they'll be destroyed. Hello, Arewolf. Welcome to another one of a kind, genre defining, brand new episode of Fumbling Through Film. The only show that dares to bring together three dudes to talk about movies. These aren't just any movies, though. Nope, they are no more. We've either missed, overlooked or feel are simply worth revisiting visiting, which is any movie. Any movie can pop up from week to week.

It could be a lot of movies, I'll give you that.

Any movie. Anyway, my name is Derek and I'm a Fumbler. Joining me here at the Fumble Dome, which is our reclaimed planetarium. We got a police auction. Reclaimed because we once owned it. It was seized by the police or the government, who knows? And we got it back at police auction.

Yeah, they sold it back to us.

They sold it back to us.

Kind of weird that they took it.

Once we were found to be not in the wrong. They didn't just give us our property back.

No, we still purchase it.

Yeah, but it's got a stink on it now, so we can't be open to the public. So we turned it into a screening room. Anyway, the one joining me here, this is the Prime Minister.

Long story short, we don't need to really get into it. We're legally not allowed to talk about the details.

Yeah, joining me here is the Prime Minister. Fumbling and film. Keith.

Hey.

Hey, what's up, KG Fumbler extraordinaire. Yeah, that's about it.

That's about it.

All right.

Well, that's not It.

For this introduction. It's the best. It's the best I can be this week.

I think that's the best Keith can be. That's all we can ask for.

Yeah, I mean, Fumbler extraordinaire, which is

a lofty bar for us to clear, but we do it every week. But that's not it because we have one more introduction. That other. That other joker over there in the room.

Who? What?

You what? It's Dr. Dre of Kansas. Terry.

Hey, everybody, it's me. What is it? The jester? Baseball or something? The king of the crown? The clown prince of baseball. Yeah, I am a joker in some senses, but only we're not. It's. Baseball's involved, so only when baseball's.

And this isn't a baseball month.

No, unfortunately. So I'm gonna be deadly serious the whole episode.

We are approaching the anniversary of the baseball month. Who knows what will happen?

Anything could happen.

Anything could happen. Oh, you know what's gotta happen now, though?

This podcast.

This podcast. So we should tell people what it is we do here every week. Get this. Every week we watch movies.

Yes.

Not just any movie. One of us chooses every month. One of us chooses a theme, a genre, Guiding Light, something for us to transform into and do four flips to activate our power with. And the way you choose a movie that adheres to that genre theme or Guiding Light or for flipped activation. This is the first week of a new month. In our first slip, the first flip in our DTF down to fumble. Y2 year 2. M3 month. 3. It's a Terry month. That's right, Terry. What have you given to us?

What have you done to us?

Our theme this month is Shaw Brothers Films.

Shaw Brothers Films.

Yes. They're. They're a production company, very prolific. Like they were studio located in Hong Kong, made about a thousand movies, mostly known for popularizing, like, the martial arts genre, but they did other stuff too. So, you know, there's a lot of options to pick from for this category.

There's a laundry list to choose from. Just tons. Some of them don't have, like, any known media associated. Like, they don't exist anymore.

Like Lost the time.

Yeah, Lost the Time. But they were made at one time.

Eric, I'm sure you remember. I don't know if they. How long they continue to do this. Was a lot of the titles and stuff looked like something that would have probably shown up on, like. Was it like Samurai Sundays or something?

Yeah.

On wgn.

Yeah, for sure. My weekends, when I was probably between the ages of 5 and 12, maybe 13, were filled with monster movies on Svengoolie Samurai Sunday. And then all the, like, the crazy, like the. Like WGN and. And WFLD Chicago. Right. They had the money for big movies, so they would get stuff from the 60s and 70s that were cheesier, corny, or fun. And it is what my childhood was.

Mm. Yeah.

So, Terry, what is our first movie in the Shaw Brothers Month?

Well, I'm proud to announce that this month I chose the Super Inframan.

The Super Inframan from 1975.

Implying that there was a non Super Inframan also.

Yeah, there was just the. Okay. Infra man. That was like the prequel.

Yeah. He wasn't quite as cool. They had the. They had to kind of soup him up again after that.

The acceptable Inframan.

Yeah. First it was kind of like the mediocre and for man. And then it got a little bit better.

Yeah. This movie is 50 years old. I didn't. I didn't realize that until I was watching it. I was like, when this movie come out, it's like, oh, pretty old. 1975. Well, before.

Not very old at all.

No, no. Some would say 50 is the new 30.

I think people do say that sometimes.

Yeah, I say that about lots of things, including this movie. Anyway, before we talk about our viewing of super inframan before. From 1975. Before. Before.

Yeah, we better do that every time.

Deep Dive. The Super Inframan from 1975. Did any of us have any previous knowledge, history, or experience of the super infrastructure? Infra man from 1975?

I think Terry mentioned it last week.

Yeah, that was my first knowledge of it as well.

It's been on my radar for a while as a movie I want to watch.

That doesn't surprise me, though.

I'm a big watcher of this type of film with like, the.

You like Kaiju.

Kaiju Ultraman esque stuff. I like that. Cat in the has also. Yeah. Like him. There's a lot of things I like, but this is really in my niche, my very specific niche. It's been on my list. And I was thinking, how can I get a reason for. To force other people to watch it with me? And I was like, oh, yeah, I have a podcast. And so that's how I decided it

forces people to watch.

That's why I make it so I'm not the only one.

Well, good. Now, Keith, you and I, we've got to relax. We got to sit back, kick your feet up and relax because Terry is Going to take us closer to the Super Inframan from 1975 than we could ever dare dream to get in another patent pending Fumblers deep dive

Super Inframan. An underground queen and her monster army rise from Devil Mountain to rule Earth. But a scientist creates Inframan, a superhero capable of defeating the monsters. Yes. What a. What a synopsis from IMDb. Perfect. That's it. That's exactly right.

In a nutshell.

We don't even talk about the movie now.

Perfect.

Sure we do.

That's. Yeah. That's all you need to tell me. I'm already intrigued. Devil Mountain. Of course. You need to go check that thing out. Huh? I knew they named a Devil Mountain for a reason. So this movie was directed by Shan.

How?

He's got 32 directing credits on IMDb. Inframan was actually his second movie he ever directed. There's actually a lot of interesting stuff in here. A couple that stood out to me. The first one that I thought sounded cool was called Bloody Parrot.

Does that sound cool?

Sounds cool. 1981. It's a master swordsman is embroiled into a complex plot regarding the theft of a highly valuable treasure meant for the emperor.

Is it a parrot?

The treasure. No, treasure is jewels and stuff. But what leads him. This leads him to encounter many weird, mysterious and deadly characters and the supernatural. Bloody Parrot.

Oh, the Bloody bear is a character being.

Yeah.

Is it a parrot or is it just like a. Like a ghoul?

That's the mystery of the film, I think, is you watch the trailer and it's like there is a shot of a parrot in the trailer, but I don't think that's the Bloody Parrot. But there's like. You'll see like red flashes of light outside and stuff and they'll be like screaming. I think that's the Bloody Parrot swooping around killing people outside.

Okay.

I don't know. It looked kind of epic, the trailer. A lot of awesome sword fighting, undead creatures. They're rising from the grave. Flesh eating, worm eating. It has everything you'd want.

Worm eating.

A man's eating worms in it. It's like I said, it's got everything

that does have everything.

Anything in the film you'd ever want to see is in there. Yeah. I am hoping that, yeah, there's a giant evil parrot. Because that's one other thing I'd like to see in film. But who knows? It's a mystery. I think we'd have to watch it to find out. And it's based off a book, so that's kind of cool.

There's a book called the Bloody Parrot.

Best selling novel.

Best selling novel in China or wherever. Wow.

But the other film that caught my eye was a movie called Kung Fu Zombie.

Oh, that sounds awesome.

From 1981.

Point to catch your eye.

And I think I actually own this on DVD already.

Oh, you think?

Again, not surprised.

I bought a DVD many years ago from Walmart that had a bunch of Kong kung fu slash undead movies inside of it. Like it was like a mishmash of genres. And one of them on there is called Kung Fu Zombie. It's a lot shorter of a runtime than than what I saw on IMDb so maybe it was like the American version that cut out a bunch of stuff. I don't know.

Yeah, probably the controversial stuff.

Yeah, it was probably a little. Might be too much for America.

There's like a big death to America scene where they're burning American flags.

All the zombies rise up and take over America. Yeah, it's pretty brutal.

As they should.

But I haven't watched it. It's on that list. There's like eight films on there, all undead martial arts themed. This film is about a martial artist who must defend himself when a criminal hires a wizard to unleash zombies upon the martial artist.

Yes.

Unfortunately though, the spell goes wrong and the criminal is the one turned into an undead monster. No. So he goes to fight the martial arts himself. The trailer is on YouTube, but I think it's a fan made trailer. It's got this crazy like synth music that does not seem like it existed back then. It's really cool, the trailer. I was like, wow, this is kind of makes me want to watch. It might be. I kind of want to watch it anyways.

But

it shows a lot of martial arts fighting between normal people, which is cool. But I'm kind of looking for zombies. And then towards the end it starts to focus on the martial arts guy fighting the undead criminal. And this guy has a cool Dracula cape and he's got special powers flying around. It's pretty epic. It's pretty.

I don't wear a cool Dracula cape if I don't have special powers.

Exactly. If I'm not undead, I ain't putting on that Dracula cape. So this movie was written by Kiang ni. He's got 233 writing credits on to be. He's got some pretty big stuff on here. Like biggest surprise to me was he wrote what might be my favorite martial arts film, the 36 Chamber. Great movie about a young man. He joins The Shaolin temple after his family is killed by the government. And he studies martial arts to gain the skills needed to enact his revenge.

Nice.

Pretty awesome movie. Pretty awesome. A lot of cool training sequences, great fight choreography. Pretty decent story. Yeah, it's nice. That's good. Yeah. I highly recommend that movie. He also wrote eight Diagram Pool Fighter, which is another martial arts classic. Just some great fight choreography in it. There's pole fighting, of course. There's a couple of sequences involving teeth that were crazy and outstanding and unexpected at the same.

Anything involving teeth is unexpected.

Yes. I was not expecting the movie to happen, but. Oh, that was very unexpected. Yes.

It's on the list now.

I have not seen that one. I'm glad you put that on the list. I'm glad that came up in our Shaw Brothers retrospective.

I was gonna say those other two that you named are. Are also Shaw brother movies, I do believe.

Yes. I think they both are. Yeah. Yep.

And I don't think.

No,

that's too bad. It should be. Maybe there's a remake of a shot. Maybe.

I bet you the Shaw Brothers had, like, a giant bible of movie ideas and they couldn't make them all.

No. Even though they made thousands. They probably just.

The Vagina with Teeth movie was way down on the list. They just have the technology for. It's, like, Time.

Not yet. Yeah. Martial Artists versus Woman with a Vagina teeth. Yeah. Pretty low on the list. Would be kind of cool to watch, but, you know, it'd be something someday. Maybe. Someday.

Yeah.

Cool. Yeah. So funny enough, this guy actually wrote Bloody Parrot.

The aforementioned.

Yes, exactly. He's worked on a lot of really cool stuff, like, stuff that I recognize, like. Oh, really? He did, like, the Five Deadly Vin. Like, a bunch of, like, martial arts films that are kind of considered classics, so it's pretty cool. He also wrote something called hello, Dracula four.

Hello, Dracula four.

Or hello, Fourth Dracula.

Oh, yeah. It's like, this is the fourth Dracula show up. Hello, Dracula number four. Yeah, no, it's like the fourth in the series. That would be awesome if Dracula just keeps coming back as a new version.

You're sitting there at home, you're like, all right, Dracula one. Hit the bricks. And then the doorbell rings. Go a whole way. Dang it.

I didn't expect Dracula 3 to come up.

As soon as it's just 3 list. This one they're on. They're on to it by now. And they're like, hello, Dracula. Come on.

Hello. It's more sarcastic. All right, fine. Four's allowed in. That's fine. This movie is also known as King of the Children.

Oh, as that makes sense for what

I know about Dracula four Children.

Big into kids.

I mean, Jesus, I was quickly thrown off there. That's what we're not. Not the movie we just watched.

If you watch the newest Dracula film by Luke Basson, he is kind of King of the children in that, and

that's on the list.

I don't know. I don't know who would go watch that.

You would need to. You need to. I don't want to spoil why. It's a big reveal at the end of why he might be known as King of the Children. So just watch for that. I think this is a prequel to the other hello, Dracula movies.

Hello, Dracula 4 is a prequel of 1, 2 and 3. Nice.

I think so just like your.

Just like your Mothra. Revenge of Mothra part Rebirth.

Not Revenge.

Yeah, the. The Rebirth of Mothra Part 3.

Yes. It's kind of like that. I don't know if there's time travel involved. Well, there is in terms of the plot. All these movies.

Dracula 4 is time travel in it.

Well, I mean in terms of like, it goes back in time before hello, Dracula 1. Not like literally town, but like, I don't know. You know what I mean? In terms of plot wise, in time, timeline order. This is before. They all involve a character named TNTN. And this one in particular is about TNT's parents. And they fight, you know, demons, vampires. This movie. These movies are all based around the hopping vampire variants known as Jiangshi. This is part of, like, Chinese folklore. They all hop around and stuff. In pop culture. Pop culture, they hop around, but in the legends, they're more like animal. Like they could run, fly even. Here's a list of potential things that could cause you to be turned into a hoping vampire according to a. I

need to know what. What I need to do. Yeah.

To become one or to avoid.

Damn it. My lifelong dream.

I got bad knees. I don't. I got bad knees. I don't need that.

So, number one, the use of supernatural arts to resurrect the dead could turn you into a hopping grandfather.

I'm on that already.

Which.

All right.

In my will, I will add that spiritual possession of a dead body.

Okay. I'm two for two.

It's doable. So a corpse absorbs sufficient positive energy to return to life.

No, I'm not a corpse.

Not yet. Nope.

Give it time.

I mean, we could.

It's possible.

Eventually we'll get there eventually.

Yeah.

Okay. When the Lower parts of the person's soul remain in the body to assume control after death. Okay, there's a lot more about that, but I'm gonna skip all their stuff.

Yes, for sure.

If you're like lower tier soul remains. Okay. When a dead person is not buried, even after a funeral has been held, the corpse comes to life after struck by a bolt of lightning. Or when a pregnant cat or black cat in some tales leaps across the coffee. Any of those could cause it a

pregnant black cat to leap across the coffin.

That could be hit by lightning.

Which. Which one's more likely?

I think the cat is probably most likely. But the thing is, like, mean, like, I think it can either be a pregnant cat or just insert generic black cat, non pregnant. But both will probably give you more.

I think the pregnancy become ups the odds.

Yeah, there's a lot of pregnant cats out there and they're hopping like crazy.

It's like when you get like one of those online giveaways or like sign up for our Instagram, you get one pregnant black cat thing and if you sign and then if you comment, you

get another pregnant black cat.

Yeah. No, each one that you add on gets you something different. So find a black cat, you get one.

I have a garage full of pregnant black cats right now.

Oh, boy. Just for listen.

No, from. From Instagram giveaways. I didn't know they had a purpose. Now I can like make hopping vampires with them.

Oh, now you can, like sell them out. Like rent that. Rent a pregnant black.

Ever dreamed of being a hopping, not black vampire,

Dover, you know? Yeah, I mean, I would pay for that.

You know, there's nothing against it, but

no, we welcome all so hopping black. Whatever.

Hopping is one thing.

The white vampires can't jump.

White vampires can't jump.

You're right.

That's one of the things about. That's why. That's why I want to be a hopping vampire. I'm white and if I get the hopping part in, I can dunk.

I can jump.

See, look, finally, in a movie where a white vampire dunks.

Oh, and then all the white people cheer in the crowd.

Exactly.

Finally. Luckily, if you don't have a bunch of pregnant black cats, there's a few other ways.

Oh, there's still more.

There's a few more.

I feel like a pregnant black cat jumping over your. Over your coffin is gonna be the peak. But I guess there's more.

Yeah. Allergic to cats, so I don't want any of them around.

I kind of want to get buried in like a Cat sanctuary. So this has more likely happening. Well, just in the cat's issue where they forget to, like, spay.

The cats passed away. Always reminding anybody to spare neuter their pets.

Yes, yes. There's no one to remind you thing. Now there's. Now there's going to be an epidemic of hopping vampires because of this. That's why he's warning everyone.

Yeah. Oh, Bob Barker is like the Van

Helsing of this thing of hopping vampires.

Yeah, yeah.

He knew something. He read this art, this Wikipedia article that I was reading.

He wrote it.

So he might have wrote this. Yeah. So, okay, when a person's soul fails to leave their deceased body due to improper death, suicide, or that person just wanted to cause a little trouble, I'm

always down for a little trouble. Jesus.

Like, how are we not all hopping?

We're not dead yet.

Oh, when I die, we're gonna have all the urge cause a little trouble right before I die. Just please, please, please let me hop out of here. And finally, there's a person injured with a jing she is. Oh, wait. Oh, I see. Hold on. Sorry, I misheard that. So a person injured by a jing she or a hopping vampire is infected with the Jiangshi poison. So basically they get infected zombie style. Okay. And they change it to it over time. This is seen in the Mr. Vampire film.

Mr. Vampire.

Yeah, it's a whole series about.

There's a series of Mr. Vampire.

Yeah, Mr. Vampire films.

And not just hello, Dracula, Washington.

That's what we're talking about, right? Still. Right.

Yeah, we're still talking about. We.

Terry has done a deep dive inside of a deep dive.

So Mr. Vampire film series is about hopping vampires a lot.

Yeah, Mr. Vampire. It's hopping vampires.

All right.

What can I else can I say?

There's nothing you can say. I got it.

I won't.

I'm locked in.

I'm gonna move on. All right, Mr. Vampire is a thing. There's jank. She's hopping around like crazy. And like I said, I hope we as fumblers, I'm putting this out officially. When we die, please bury us in the cat.

Please.

But a poor run one, a poorly run one with all these pregnant cats.

Yeah, a poorly run cat sanctuary. A black cat sanctuary.

Yes. Only black cats are allowed. And only pregnant black cats.

It's a. It's a home for wayward black cat black cats.

Females. Yes, yes. God, we'll be. We'll be hopping vampires within moments. Buried there.

It's like a hot hopping vampire incubator.

It is. Oh, that's amazing. So this film stars Danny Lee as Lima, also, aka the Info Man. So he's been in 150 different films or TV series. The two big ones I noticed were that he was in The Killer from 1989, directed by John Wu. A classic classic, really great. About an assassin who's hoping to retire and use his earnings to heal a singer that he accidentally blinded while in a gunfight. Donnie Lee plays. Or Danny Lee. He plays the inspector who's tracking down the main character.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, That's a great movie. Main character is played by Chowie on fat. Amazing. Really good. Probably John Woo's finest, in my opinion. I really like that.

I don't think your painting is. Is exclusive to you, Terry.

Oh, okay. Good, good, good. I mean, maybe just behind Mission Impossible, Mission Possibles

or Broken arrow.

Mission Impossible 2 is one of my most hated movies ever.

Come on. It's good. I like that one. I genuinely do like that one. But moving on, we don't need. We don't need to discuss this because we got another movie he directed City on Fire. Or he started and he didn't. Haven't seen this one. But it's also pretty good. From what I've heard, it's another classic Hong Kong action film. Undercover cop infiltrates a gang who is planning to rob a jewelry store. This lead in the movie was Chow Yun Fat as well. So there you go. I want to check that one out. I heard it's really good.

I wonder if people get upset. Well, if he gets upset when people call him the fat man

like that. What's that Santa movie with. What is that movie with? What's his face in it? Mel Gibson.

Oh, God. I don't know any Mel Gibson movies anymore.

It's called the Fat Man.

It's called Fat Man.

It's like a Santa action movie.

A Santa action movie.

Yep, I mentioned it, but 2020, the fat man.

Thank you. Mel Gibson cannot be rehabilitated.

Von Goggins is in it. Keith loves.

He loves Wilbur Scruggins.

Oh, God.

And he will defend him to the death.

Amazing. Yep.

See, there he goes.

Yeah, he's great.

Yeah, baby Billy.

Come on now.

He was in that Fallout show plugin.

Yes, he is.

Wilson Spluggin, everyone's favorite actor. Who start next to Mel Gibson right there.

Knocks him down a peg. And this is. And this is post racist Nazi rant Mel Gibson. This is in pre racist Nazi rant Milkinson.

Does this. Does it help if you know that Walton Goggins plays a character Called Skinny

man next to Fat Man.

And.

And they're not nuclear bombs.

No, I don't think that either of them played. No.

No.

Well, I mean, Mel Gibson's kind of like in the pop culture.

They'll blow it anyway.

You never know. Never know with him. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But no, I wonder if Charlie and Fat doesn't. I don't think. I don't know why he went with Fat. Is that like his actual last name?

Yeah.

Okay. Okay. Because I know they come up with their own aliases.

Oh, maybe. Maybe that's a good question.

I don't know. It's probably is. Maybe it's just unfortunates. Maybe

there was already a Chow Yon Skinny, so he had to go something.

It is memorable. I like.

According to the AIO overview, it's his real name.

Is it? Okay, there you go.

Good for him. It's.

But your theory is that people actually call him the Fat Man.

My, my. My question was, does he get upset if people call him the fat Man?

I think there's only way. One way to find out and get

him on the phone.

I'm gonna tell you what.

Celebrities go live right now.

Yeah.

Yes, I have him on the line right now. Here he is. Yeah. No, you would love it if you just showed up to, like, a Q A where he's like a retrospective of his great work and you're like, hey, fat man. I don't think he would, like.

No. And it's. It's, I think young hyphen fat. So it's not like. It's not really like, you know, Chinese is like yun fa.

Yeah.

And. Yeah, yeah, but we're Americans. He's young fat. He's young fat.

Yeah, but it still sounds cool that way.

It does. Yeah.

That's cool.

I mean, you combine it with the first name of Chow. I mean, so he's eating a lot. Yep.

He likes veal. He eats a lot of veal. Fatty veal.

Makes sense. Makes sense. We'll find out someday when the Fumblers have their biggest their live performance. We'll bring him on as a guest and we get that in business.

It'll be our first watching a movie that doesn't involve him at all.

Just throw it out there and look at his face and see how he reacts.

Yeah, I'm sure you would love it.

I think it depends on how you, like, emphasize the fat man thing. You know, if you're, like, trying to make it sound cool, then he might be into it. But if you kind of make it so you fat man, you know, like, you might not like that.

No, he would not like it. I don't think no one would like it. There's not a human alive that would like that.

Except for Santa Claus, played by Mel Gibson.

Yes.

You walk up and you see me. Yo, fat man, you dap him, you know? Yeah, that's all good.

You might like that.

Give him a pound.

Give him that fist, bump that. Then you. Then you that. You pull back and like, explode a little bit.

Oh, if you did that after you called him that, I think he would be. Yeah, we got. We'll have to try. We'll each have our own method of calling him that and see which one just reflects the best. Anyways, I got one more person to talk about. All right, so this is Terry Lou.

Of course.

I had to talk about Terry Lou.

Yeah.

She is the ice monster princess from the underground.

Okay.

She's got 51 films.

Nice.

One movie that I saw, she was in was called the Hunter, the Butterfly and the Crocodile.

I like that name.

It's a great name. Not much I could find.

Hello, Vampire.

Vampire four. This is about a cop who faces off against the Triads, also starring Chow Yun.

Fat Man.

Fat man works.

He does. He gets it in, man.

He does. And I couldn't find a whole lot about it, but according to a letterboxd review, there's a scene where Chowiam Fat is buried in sand as the tide is starting to come in, so he has to free himself before he gets drowned.

Oh, that sounds intense.

It sounds intense. And that's what letterbox review said. It's tense.

That sounds like an anxiety inducing scene. I don't know if I can handle because it encapsulates a few fears of mine. Drowning. One, sand and sand like. Like being stuck in quicksand.

Oh, yeah, that would be horrifying. Imagine being. Yeah. Stuck in quicksand while water's pouring down.

Yeah, while the tide comes in.

There's no escape.

No escape from either the tide or the quicksand.

And how ironic is it that earth and water have come together to kill you?

Fire itself. I am fire personified.

I am fire. They're smothering me.

Yep.

That's why we. That's why I don't want this podcast getting too popular because someone's going to come around and bury us in sand and bleed.

It's an eventuality. I have come to accept my fate.

Most podcasters do fear of this. Once they get too popular, they have to face off against the elements because

at least two of the Elements, like, every day.

Yeah. There's only two that really worry. Air is fine. Air and fire get along.

I need air.

Yeah, Air's happy to tin the fire. Water and earth say no. And that's just. That's just how nature works.

Sorry.

Just the law of the West.

Yes, I agree with that. So she was in a movie called Black Magic 2.

Oh, okay.

Which is about an evil sorcerer who starts targeting people in the city, making beautiful women into old disfigured persons.

Why? What does this person have against beautiful women?

Well, it's not just beautiful women. Just random guy on the street becomes decay, losing hair. Oh, that turns like a housewife, just a normal housewife, into kind of more of a seductive, voluptuous woman.

Ooh, I don't know this antagonist now, are you?

This is the plot of Sex in the City.

Well, he is in the city, and he's doing some bad stuff and some good stuff in some ways, I guess. Yeah. Although it only happens at certain times. I think it was like, why is a beautiful woman, in the time of her most passionate, become an evil old hag? And you're like, what? And she turns into old woman. And then it's like, why is a housewife suddenly or in the full moon, turn into a mischievous woman?

A were. Milf. Yeah, That's a movie right there.

Oh, God. I feel like there's a certain. Yeah, I don't know if we need to make that one.

I better Google that just real quick to see if it already exists. It should.

It may.

I think it probably does. There's a scene in this trailer that I watched of a crocodile eating somebody, and it was kind of awesome, so.

All right, that does sound awes. God damn, Terry, that was so deep.

Yeah, I. I dug a little too deep into that sand, and I see that water rising. I'm getting nervous, so we probably should climb out of here.

You should climb out. I don't want to have a intense struggle against the sand and the tide.

No, nobody does.

No, you're right. Nobody wants that. Not even Chun Fat.

And now he, in particular, I think, really did not want that to happen.

But no, that was really close to the super inframan.

It was, wasn't it? Yeah.

Now, that leaves with the main course. We need to talk about the super inframan.

Yeah. From 1975.

From 1975. Yeah. Not to be mistaken, or Super Inframan. So it might be out there. This is the one and only from 75. Well, Terry, what'd you think?

Well, I enjoyed it. For the most part. I like this. Like I said, this is a niche of mine. I like the style of movie. I like the style of TV show, the Kaiju. This is basically just like a. I wouldn't. I would almost call it a ripoff of Ultraman. It's basically like, yeah, guy with an

Ultraman's the 60s, right?

Yeah, 60s, 70s. He's been going forever. Yeah, yeah. Ultraman. But yeah, it's like, you know, scientific organization. Guy in scientific organization gets powers and fights monsters for the organization. And then, you know, it's a new thing every week. And this kind of felt like that, but just condensed. I was like, okay, here's a segment where he fights drill monster. And now here's plant monster. And now here's whatever, you know, like plant monster.

Okay. I really enjoyed the creature design in this. In this movie.

Yes.

And I love the practical costumes. That creature monster was kind of awesome. Monster. Yeah. The cre. He's a creature and a monster. The plant creature monster was kind of awesome. He reminded me a bit of. Of a twi lek from Star wars mixed with Swamp Thing.

Yeah, that's a good.

And he had tentacles that went into his nipples, coming out of his head. It was a great look.

It was a. I wish I could look like.

And he had, like, long spindly, like, tentacle arms. It was a very cool kid. A lot of them.

And he had cool powers.

Yeah, yeah, he had. He had like the best powers of all the other ones. All the rest of them were mostly just kind of brutes.

Yeah.

Like, you know, trying to be big and strong and stuff like that.

And. Yeah, he could actually burrow.

Teleground. Yeah.

And I really did like the scene when he does burrow in. And then they show, like, once he gets in there, they show, like, fully closing up. You know, the way. The way that they filmed that, you know, to. To show ceiling back up and stuff like that. It was very cool. I. What. I thought he was burrowing in. It was going to just pop up someplace like inside. But then he, like, sprouts back out almost like. Like a giant. Like a giant bean stalk.

Yeah.

And. And attacking everybody there. Probably. Probably one of the cooler scenes that they put together in this. I. I really enjoyed that part and the way that it looked overall and everything.

Sure.

Yeah. I love the. The practical effects in this.

Yeah.

Like the. I guess like in these Kaiju based things or the monster based things. Like, I like the. The. Yeah, like, the rubbery suits look cool to me. The. The way they Pull off like these effects like in 1975, you know, like they have to do some creative stuff to make it work and. Yeah, I think I just like that vibe. It looks cool. It's cool to see them achieve their vision, even if it's like. Yeah, they gotta like, find some creative ways to work around it.

Yeah.

Well, what I thought was interesting is I. So I've still, you guys, I've just finished watching like the Sean Connery Bond movies and this is in 75. And I think the last one of those that I watch is like 71. 72.

Ish.

So the era is kind of like similar. And so before like the monsters like fully show up and stuff like that. Like, it. It almost feels like it's like the opening of one of these Sean Connery Bond movies with like the disasters happening. Yeah, there's a big disaster. People are trying to escape. And there's like some guys who are all. They're all the heroes of the show, but they also look like, you know, something that you would see of like all of a sudden like, you know, the villains lair and stuff. But these are all supposed to be the. The good guys instead. And so it was very nice of a. This is like a palate cleanser movie for me from my massive Bond watching over the last, you know, months.

Giant pterodactyl comes flying out of the sky for a second.

The opening disaster was a bit disjointed.

It was a bit much. Yeah, I think it was two different

things going on at once. There's an earthquake plus a volcano erupted.

Well, so like. And the creature crashes in the. On the street right when the bus of children's coming by and then it disappears. And then the ground starts cracking open. The children get out of the bus. The bus falls down a cliff. But we don't.

Shouldn't have had the kids get out of the bus because it threw off the weight. Well, he should have just reversed and

got out of there.

But the. When the bus starts falling, we don't see the resolution of the bus falling. There's instantly a gas station exploding.

Yes.

And I'm like, did the bus cause that? And then a whole city is exploding. I'm like, oh my God, that bus did that.

We need like an establishing shot or something.

There need to be some sort of transition between the two things. Because I really thought that bus with just that guy in there hit the

gas station and the gas station just ignited and burned the whole city down.

City burst into fl.

Especially when the. The giant. Well I guess the dragon, not a pterodactyl, lands like flies over them, hit as it hits the street and just disappears. And then the whole thing starts to fall apart.

I'm assuming this is what caused it. Some. Some sort of temporal shift in the space time. In space time which caused the crack in the street.

The crack in the reality caused the reverberation.

Yeah, that makes sense.

Yeah. I think they could have mentioned that maybe

that they're having the weird electromagnetism thing going on in different spots. So I don't think the city where the fire is happening is the same area exactly.

I don't know. Wouldn't be so sure, Keith.

I think they're close by, but I don't think that. I don't think they're exactly 100 connected.

I think that bus fell down a mountain on to a G station which caused the whole city to catch on fire.

It's possible. There's no proof to say either way.

It's possible. I mean, that's what it looked like to me.

I felt like they had to really rush into that a little bit.

Like the.

The chaos. I wish they would have lingered on that. Showing some monsters destroying the city or something for, you know.

Yeah. And I don't get why that Pterodactyl Dragon thing crashed. Like it didn't get shot down by the bus.

No, I think it just hit the ground to like cause the earthquake. I think it's a power.

Oh, it was kamikaze.

I think. Well, it didn't die. I think it just.

It's the dragon. It's the glacier lady.

It's the lady. She just. She can teleport.

Well, why did she crash the road?

They hit it with her body. Oh, like body slam.

You think that's.

She's. Because she's going into that. Because it's that Devil's Mountain or whatever where her like lair is at.

It was this awakened. She crashed into the street.

Yes, but the street is on the mountain and.

And this is before, you know, she's the Pterodactyl Dragon. Yeah.

You don't know that. Yeah, it's like a reveal towards the end.

The Pterodactyl dragon like disappeared, but not into her. It was.

No, it just teleported home. It teleported home. Oh, you know, like how the plant teleports. I think she did that too.

I didn't really. I didn't think of that.

I didn't. I mean, it's a lot of like up to interpretation. Like we're saying. Yeah. Who knows? What they were thinking is they didn't really clarify what caused it, did she? Maybe just, like, it's been so long since she's been to the surface. She figured out how to fly and just body slammed into the ground. Accident. I don't know. Maybe. Maybe she got hit by something. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know.

But also, like, once she hits and she. They should have, like, had a thing where, like, she faded away, not just kind of blipped out. I think that, like, would have been a little bit better if they made it look like it was fading, because I think it seems like it phases into the ground, I think, is what they were going for, maybe, because then. Because then when we see her, like, she's flying into that, like, little underground lair thing that she has, and.

Yeah.

Then she. When she talks to the people the one time, and she's like, hey, I'm gonna continue cost gas. But she has those weird, like, dragon things that, like, bust up out of the mountain a little bit, like, the entrance to her, like, cave area and stuff, like, you know, pop up later and stuff, which I. I thought it was gonna be, like, an actual dragon alive. Not just.

That's what I thought. Dude. It opened his eyes.

Yeah. To broadcaster signal, I think.

Yep, Yep. I did, like, in this movie. I thought that the, like, fight choreography was pretty good.

It's all right. Yeah.

In a lot of these movies, I feel like sometimes they don't really think through how they're gonna fight each other. They're just kind of bumping into each other and, like, you know, not really doing any moves. And then this. It felt like they had something planned out. They were actually doing, like, martial arts and, like, actually, like, you know, they thought it through all the way before they started doing their.

Yeah.

Their fight card.

Well, they had plenty of time to. To do it. Like, a couple of scenes go on and on and on.

Yeah. So they had to plan it out. Yeah.

Yeah. Down the stretch, like, I. I dozed off a little bit, and I woke up, and I. And I rewound.

Shame, shame, shame.

I woke up on rewound, and then I was like, oh, I don't think I missed anything. No, because they were fighting, and I fell asleep for five minutes, and these same guys are still fighting.

Yeah.

Like, he's just taking out guy after guy after guy.

This is a movie where, you know, people will often complain, oh, there's not enough monsters. There's not enough this. There's a lot of Fighting in this movie. There is a lot. So if you're. That's one of your main complaints about watching Kaiju movies or whatever, you should watch this, because there you go. The characters are not really the focus at all.

But I will say that there weren't enough monsters movie for me.

Really?

Yes. Because I did not care in the least about the story.

No, this is pretty generic.

No, did not care about the story. I need to see more. What's. What's the villain's name this movie? Something like. Something. Dragon Princess.

Yeah, something like that. I don't know.

I needed more. I needed more. Princess.

Dragon Mom.

Princess. Dragon Mom, I think is what her name was. I needed more of her because she was awesome. She had, like, giant claw hands and a metal bra. She was. She was cool. And I needed more focused fighting. There was a lot of unfocused fighting where it felt like there was just. It was just going on. It was like, we need to make this movie 90 minutes. We're not gonna edit. So they were just, like, fighting in the sound work. I don't know if it's because it's watching the dub from this bootleg DVD I have, but it. There was a sound that kept occurring in this movie. There was like a wooden spoon on a pot, and I'm. It was like, clink, clink, clink, clink constantly. And I'm just like, oh, God, please let this be over with. But there was just like, okay, I want monster fighting Inframan. I get the guy can be Inframan. There's that fight scene about halfway through where he's not Inframan for most of it.

Yeah.

And then he transforms into still kicking everyone's ass.

Just Berm, man. God damn it.

I don't know why he didn't just

start out with just transform and get it over with and then do the fight. Come on.

And he's not, like, trying to hide a secret. Like, that's the thing with Ultram Man. Sometimes he's trying to hide his, like, identity. This is. Everybody knows he's infra, so there's no reason.

He's very quick to learn all his powers, too. He was able to grow to be giants.

Yeah. Yeah.

I'm learning a lot of his new powers. And he seems like he already knows.

He already knows something. He's got, like, rock at the hands, explosive kicks.

Oh, that was awesome.

There's a lot of really cool this movie. I really enjoyed a lot of it, but the boring parts weighed it down.

I did not care about the rest, there's nothing to. The people are all there to just give the reasons to fight.

Yeah.

It feels like.

Just give me 90 minutes of them fighting in cool settings. That, like, skeleton set that they had was awesome. I loved it. Yeah, I loved. I loved it because it. I'm like. I'm watching. I'm like, I bet it was really cool to make.

Yeah, I bet it was fun.

That was my first time. Like, oh, they had to make this. I bet it was really fun to make.

I also like that. So when the guy. The director guy, like, they. They kidnap his daughter and so, like, you have to come over. You. We need you to come over by us. In order to get his daughter back. And they're taking that boat over.

Oh, that was the best shot the whole movie.

Yes, yes. One of the skeleton guys, the drill monster, and then the director right in the middle.

Just kind of just like a normal shot. But I.

That was.

Which then when it. When they zoom out, like, the boat's dragon themed. Like what? Like she's been hidden underground all this time. Why did she commandeer a boat making dragons?

I mean, she is dragon mom or whatever her name is.

Yeah, she probably already has. She already understands all this human technologies. They probably have boats already. They probably had planes. She looks at the infra man, documents and understands. Immediately understands how he's made.

He's made with adrenaline and nuclear reactors and animal proteins.

In my. In my subs, he was powered by solar power.

What he's getting. And he's getting injected with animal proteins of some sort.

Yeah, I remember that part that was.

I was like, the guy's explaining how it's all going to work out. He goes, well, this, that. Then we'll inject you with a bunch of animal proteins. I'm like, what?

In the. In the. The sub that I watched, they. That's why he had to have that big mist in the clouds because. To block out the sun so he can't use his sun power. His sonar.

Yeah. That was the big plan that they were going to have. Yeah.

It didn't really pay off at all, I feel like.

No. Because then he got the electricity powered things.

Yeah. Lucky for him. And his ultra exploding boots that will kill anyone in one hand.

Lucky for him.

Yeah. Darn. You took away the one, like, beam move I'd never use. Oops.

Yeah. I like when he. He shoots and it's supposed to look like electricity, but it's also like those little blade things. And he cuts that. The witch lady's hands off.

Yeah. Oh, yes.

She's got the eyes in her hands.

What was that Guillermo del Toro movie? Yeah, yeah. High hands.

She's a precursor to that.

And then he does it when he. When he shoots at the. The dragon. Dragon mama in her dragon form. That was, like, cuts the heads off repeatedly.

That was so funny.

Thought at some point, maybe, like, two heads were going to reappear.

No.

You know, like, cutting one off and have two reappears. Like, he was just gonna be. But he's just like, boom. And they're just piling up one after another.

I just love that. Like, that's such a humiliation to her. Like, he's just like, yep. I can just keep doing this.

Just keeps. Like, he's like.

He even looks confused. Yeah. He's like, well, okay. Like, he didn't have to do that five times because he kills her immediately after that. He could have done it once, so it didn't work and just use his other move. But he decided, I'm gonna try five times.

I thought was funny. Like, in the last, like, five minutes of the movie, he gets frozen. They're like, oh, we beat him. That should have been, like, the middle of the movie. He gets cancer or something.

Find his weakness. Yes. Yeah.

Instead it was like, the last five minutes, and they just unfreezes and kills everybody. It's like, all right.

He has his little sparklers that somehow heat him up, and then he's fine. Oh, well, there needs more drama. They need more drama in this, because it's really like, yeah, Infra. Man's gonna destroy everyone. He's too powerful.

Yeah. He's op.

He can do anything. It's like, oh, God, he's. Yeah. Everybody's always talking, like, who's gonna win, Batman or Inframan? Like, well, information is just so overpowering.

Like, there's. It really is. And then when people make infra man, like, have vulnerability, they get angry. Like, he should be invulnerable. He should be kicking ass. Like, previous incarnations of information.

I mean, the guy tells him straight up. He's like, you'll be imp. That

Fire. Yeah. Water and fire.

Rain, lightning, and thunder.

Yeah.

It's like, like, all right, then.

Cover ice. Did it. Well, yeah. Part of me.

Part of me is sitting there going like, man. Okay, what isn't. What is he? This is like, at the beginning, we're talking about any movie. We run down all the different styles of movies that.

What's the loophole here? What's the loophole?

It's got to be lead.

Is He. Is he immune to lead? Because a gun might kill him?

No, that would be amazing. It's just like a handgun took him out.

I did like that they didn't have laser guns in this, but they just really guns and just shot the monsters. I kind of like that just because in most of these things, they have, like, little laser guns to shoot instead. That was nice. I liked it when he turned big. I thought that was cool. I thought that that scene was actually, like. Looked really good. Like, him, like, becoming bigger, like, in one, like, shot that was, like, surprisingly well done. I thought, like, a lot of the effects between, like, Giant versus Little. Well, like, they had to, like, do the. What is it called? With the, like, background is different than the foreground of the movie. Whatever. It all blended very well. Like, I thought I was impressed how, like, seamless it all felt. Because a lot of these, like, Kaiju movies just, like. Yeah, I can pretty much exactly tell what you did. I mean, unless you know how they did it. But it's just. It looks really good.

Yeah, I. I'm not gonna argue with that. Like, I thought the visual stuff was fun. I like the characters and the rubber suits, even though you'd see the seams in the back.

Yeah.

There was a scene, I can't remember, where one of the guys in, like, the science lab fell down. And he was, like, rolling around. You can see it, like, holes in the crotch of his pants. I'm like, oh, man, get this guy some new things.

He's gonna be another. Like that.

There's another weird part where. And I really. I should have paused it and everyone back and paused and see exactly what it was. But the director's daughter, he's like, hey, I'm gonna go upstairs and take care of something. Then we'll come back down, we'll have dinner. You just hang out here. And she sits down and she puts up. Picks up, like, a. A book or a magazine and something like, about the devil. And she just. She just starts smiling when she sees it and starts, like, giggling as she's looking through it. And I'm like, that's so weird. I was like, I. I probably should have gone back and found out exactly what the book was that she was looking at. But it's so. It's just so ridiculous. There's some other scene that happens, something similar like that where I'm like. The reaction of people is just so inappropriate for whatever. They're like.

They're looking at the Devil for Dummies,

something like that.

Idiots. Kind of the Devil. Japanese. I'd read it. Yeah, for sure. First pages, 666.

Okay. Okay. Write that down.

All right.

All right, I'm there. I'm there. Right there.

Pentagram. Oh, okay. It's like a picture book.

Okay.

Goat. All right. Horns. Interesting. Okay.

Somewhere in the bottom of the ocean. Interesting.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Deep in the ocean. Could be there.

Oh, God. I never even thought of that. Get down to the deep.

Picks up your mail for you.

Well, do we do boils?

I guess we did. Yeah. Feels like it, kind of.

Well, what did we think of the Super Inframan from 1975?

I enjoyed talking about it with you guys.

Okay.

Put a better. Put a better feel to it than I had after watching it.

I didn't. I didn't hate the movie. I wish there were more monsters. I wish it was less. There was really boring in chunks.

Yeah.

And I wish the boring was exciting, because the stuff that was cool was cool.

I wish the boring was exciting.

I do. Because it would have been the best movie ever if it was, because there's a lot of boring.

Yeah.

But the stuff that hit, hit. I didn't hate it.

Yeah.

I thought it was pretty good. I liked it. I would agree. The pacing's a little off. I feel like there's a lot of action, and it's maybe even too much. And I feel like they could have used more time with the characters to make me actually care, because all of it feels like it's a very, like, point A to point B. Like, kind of like they're just like, yeah, who cares? Blah, blah. Here you go. Like, they kind of did not care about the characters. They're just throwing in.

Like, why. Why did he pick that guy to become. Yeah, yeah. Like what? You know what? Just because he was able to jump out of a burning building and land right on his feet.

I mean, that's.

Honestly, from, like, two stories up.

Yeah, that. That's a good start.

That's like one of.

If you're gonna get an Inframan base, can you jump out of a burning building from two stories up?

And I'll be honest. He did that. And then all that time, he's kicking all the, you know, the bad guys, you know, ass without actually being infra. Man. I don't know if he needed to be in for.

Man.

Yeah. I don't know.

Yeah, he probably didn't need Infran.

Although.

Yeah, like, the kicking exploding boots are pretty helpful, I think.

No, like.

Like, I.

Like, I think if they would have picked one of the Other guys and turned one of the other guys in the Inframan. The two of them could have teamed up.

Really? Yeah. You should have picked the suckier guy to be infra man because you already have like a almost infra man, like peak human that could destroy monsters with his own bare hands. That's true. Unless, like, the cyborg enhancements are like, you know, effect even outside of his super suit. I don't know. But either way, I thought it was okay. I thought the pacing was a little off, a little boring at times, but I didn't really mind it too much. It just would have been nice. Like, I almost feel like they crunch too much in here when it should. Because like I said, it's definitely inspired by like Ultraman or like Common Rider TV shows where they kind of like have time like an episode a week. You know, you kind of like this feels like they just try to crunch a bunch of stuff in there.

Yeah.

And I feel like it could have been a TV show and probably would have been better for it.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it is what it was. It was super. I thought it was fine. Like, was it amazing? No. Was it good? Sure, it was fine.

It was definitely in my wheelhouse. I like. I like this kind of stuff, so.

And if it's not your wheelhouse, you really had to put yourself in the mindset of when it came out. Because if you're going to judge it through a 2026 lens, you're going to be harsh.

That's true.

If you judge it from a 1975 Cheap Saturday matinee was goofy and it was forgivable for sure.

Yep, definitely.

Well, we know what we thought. What did the Internet have to say? Well, on January 9th of 2006, sales hyphen dog had this to say. This takes me back.

Okay.

I remember seeing this in theaters when I was a kid. It was a great fantasy movie and about 1000% better than any usual Japanese sci fi flick. Today, my kids would find this boring. After the effects of movies nowadays, they are spoiled. So what happens to all these old films? Someone should set up a new Sci Fi Channel in quotes to distribute this stuff. Also, a value would be Genesis 2 and the other Gene Roddenberry movies that did not make it into a series like Star Trek. Where can I buy or download this? Okay, enough of with my posting. This IMDb requirement about deadlines is a pain in the butt.

Okay.

I love it. I guess they have devised a way to ensure that you cannot badmouth the garbage movies that come out every Month by making you type 10 lines of info into one of these comments sections. Now I have 12 lines. Let's see if it will let me save it now. I'm sorry. Let me see what will save it. Mao. Oh, It's a typo. Four found it helpful. Two, not so much. Ten out of ten. Well, not to be outdone, on December 31, 2011, ringing in the new year, Dallas David had this to say. Roger Ebert and I like this movie.

Yes.

For years, I never told anyone I had even seen that.

What?

And I sure as hell never told anyone that I liked it.

Come on, it's some dark secret that you watched the Super Inframan and liked it. Really? People are gonna go like, you did what? Nobody knows what you're talking about if you say that.

Exactly. It was deserving of the title Cheesiest movie of the year in quotes.

Okay.

And could well have been nominated for the all time award. Yet I had enjoyed, became my secret shame.

Come on, calm down. This is not like some sort of blight on your life that you like this.

It's a secret shame. Then one day, months, perhaps years later, my favorite movie critic, with whom I agreed about 90 of the time, did something that made my heart sing and my soul feel relieved. Roger Ebert listed it as a guilty pleasure.

Wow.

Of all the thousands of movies he had seen in his career, one of only 10 listed. Was it from an. This didn't prove my sanity, of course, but it did prove I was as sane as Roger Ebert. And I'll take that any day.

Okay.

Zero. Found it helpful. Two, not so much. Two out of ten.

Two out of ten.

What?

Come on, you. Oh.

Contradicts the score.

My God. It's like he's still embarrassed. It's like they're still embarrassed.

It's. Yeah, he's ashamed that he likes the movie. So it gives it a two. Unless ironic, too.

Unless three dudes are groundbreakingly making a movie podcast about a movie and they watch this, only thing people are gonna see is a headline in the score and they're gonna move on.

Let me tell you what.

Nobody's ever gonna stop and read the fact that I really love this movie deep down, but I won't let anybody know.

I go walk up to one of a random person in the street. I go, I really like Super Informan. They're gonna look at me, kind of like squint their eyes and turn around and walk away. They're not gonna think about it. Yeah.

No one's gonna interact with you if you Lead with that, Terry.

I mean, but, like, not like, it's. Because it's like, they know what the movie is. They're just gonna go, like, what are you talking about? Like, it's like, they don't care about your review of Super Informative. I guarantee it. Unless, you know, you're a big fan of Thumb with your film, then maybe you would care. This guy will be a type of guy who finds our review on the podcast.

I feel like this review has been online for almost 15 years.

Wow.

And it's probably been seen. It's got two thumbs down, and that's it. So it's been. It's been read by a handful of people, maybe a dozen. And we're one of those dozen. Just let your. Let your truth ring in your. Yeah, you like it, Go ahead. There's nothing to be ashamed of. Who's gonna judge you, Dallas David? We're not gonna judge.

I love it that you love it.

Yeah.

I'm gonna judge you for the fact that you gave it a.

Like. Yeah.

Almost like a glowing. Like, I love this. And Roger Ebert loved it. It's greater.

Two stars.

That's what I'm gonna get. It's 2 out 10.

David. He's probably our age. Keith. He's got a picture of himself in here. And. And I think that after reading his bio, this. This review sums up Dallas David in a nutshell. He's ashamed. He likes this movie.

Yes. Even if he shouldn't be. No.

Just like the movie. You like what you like. It's okay. Dude.

Dude, we're willing. Reach out to us. We'll talk about it.

Dallas David, if you're listening, send us an email.

It's like, please, why did you.

Allow me on IMDb yeah.

Come on, man. What are you doing?

It's.

I do.

I feel like I. You know the term guilty pleasure? Like, I don't even really like that term. I feel like if you like something, it's okay.

There's nothing wrong. Don't be guilty. But unless you're. You, like, awful, like, terror. Like, I'm not talking about, like, a bad movie. I'm talking about, like, just vile. Then that would be a guilty pleasure. Yes. Like, I like the worst of the worst of humanity. Well, yeah, you should be feeling about that. Yeah.

Don't bring that.

Feel guilty.

Yeah.

Because you shouldn't like that. But liking Super Inframan, that's all right, dude. You're cool.

There's plenty else to be guilty about in the world. That is not.

Yeah. Stealing like Candy from the grocery store when you're six. Feel guilty about that.

You can feel a little guilty about that.

Let that drag you down into your 50s.

Yes.

Yes, you're right for man. No, it's okay.

I don't think you should feel too guilty about that either anymore.

I still think with the way.

With the way. With the way the world is now, it seems pretty lame.

I. Like, I don't want to delve too much into it, but occasionally the memory of me stealing a. A Tootsie Pop from the Hanson's grocery store when I was like, seven will creep into my memory, and I'll be like, ah, God, why did I do that? And it'll ruin my day.

If you could. Yeah, that's. That is something they just, you know, everyone's smiling.

I wish I were joking. I'm not.

No, I get it. The smallest of things, and you're, like, the smallest.

I should remember. It was. It was 43 years ago. I shouldn't rem that and yet. But I do. Formative memory, and it just pops in my head from time to time. I'll see a Tootsie Pop. I'll be like, ah, God damn it.

You need to, like, go back to the story still from. If it's still open.

This was, like, 2 cents at the time.

Your kids empty out their candy at Halloween and you see one. Yes, you're me.

Like, it's like a movie flashback scene where I'm just being bombarded with visuals of shoplifting a fucking Tootsie Pop.

And the worst part is, in, like, every multiverse, it's a. It's a core of a canon event.

Oh, it is a canon event.

It's the origin story of Derek you just can't get away from.

Miles Morales stops me from stealing the Tootsie Pop, and all the world is destroyed.

Wormhole opens up. The universe is destroyed.

Yes.

Yeah.

God damn.

Something you have to go through. Yeah, it's.

I'm broken. My brain's broken, and I wish I could forget these things, and I can't.

Yep.

This is a trivial thing. Imagine, like, things of greater, like, weight.

Yeah, right.

That's what I live with daily. We did it, boyos. We got through. Super Inframan from 1975. The first week of the Shaw Brothers Month.

That's right.

DTF M3.

DTF3SB. SB. Shaw Bros. I guess I. That puts it on me.

It does. It's the weight is on your shoulders again.

Weight is on my shoulders.

Much like stealing a Tootsie Pop

edit that out My secret shame. Much like Dallas David's love of Inframan.

Okay, yeah, let's take that back.

Yep.

Derek, the weight is on you. Just like Dallas Dave's, you know, having to hold that guilt of.

He goes by David if he was dead. If he went by Dave, he'd be Dallas Dave. He is clearly Dallas David. Okay.

Dallas David, he's got a lot of weight on his shoulders because of guilt movie. And so the same pressure now is on you.

The same pressure is on me now. I'm. I'm gonna go through this. And I'm probably stealing Keith's. I went through all of the Shaw bro movies. I looked at them all. Do I pick a quirky title? So I pick a quirk title. I'm like, well, there's no way to even get this DVD or even stream it. So I went with something that would be formative and part of my youth. I've never seen it, but I've in. I've ingested lots of media influenced by it. And Terry brought it up earlier.

Yep.

The 36th. 36th Chamber of Shaolin. Yes. What we're gonna watch.

Oh, I'm so excited.

I got it right here in my hand.

I already own this on Blu Ray, I believe. I'm excited. I like this one.

It's one of the. Is supposedly one of the greatest kung fu movies ever made.

Yes.

So I like it. I like. Let's put it to the test. Dale David, if he watched it, don't be ashamed of liking it because other people like it as well.

That's right. It's just annoying that he's like, oh, thank God I finally found somebody else who likes this movie. And they put two out of ten. You're like, what?

Yeah, exactly. At least give it. Yeah, like, yeah, at least give it mid. Give it a five out of 10.

Because like, five is like, you know, okay, I can see there's some flaws, but I still like it kind of

thing, like, just do that.

Two means you didn't like it at all.

When I was a kid, every Thursday we. We would get the Chicago Tribune at our house. This is the newspaper of Chicago. Right. And every Thursday was the Tempo section, which had all the movie reviews for the weekend. If something got two and a half out of five, like, it sounds pretty good, I'll have to watch it.

Yeah.

Deal breaker.

I think this, like, rating scale that exists now really is like a video game thing from the last 20 years. Were like, anything under a 90 must be garbage.

That's right. It's like S tier. You're always going for S tier, but

everything's got to be top. Top tier. Best of the best.

It's like a B tier. Just doesn't. He's like, that ain't gonna cut it.

77. You might as well kill me because I'll never play that or watch it.

I've never watched anything ranked under 77. That's ridiculous.

Yeah, come on. Like, I used to watch me, like, one out of ten.

I'm like.

Or one out of five. I'm like, I still want to see it, though. And I'd watch it and be like, it was bad.

Weird.

Yeah, it's kind of how it goes, right? It's a movie. It's like a low investment. Yeah.

It's fine to just, like, watch. You know, if you're curious, just watch it. Don't worry about what other people like.

90 minutes. Like, so what? Right?

Yeah. Yeah.

I. I really think it's a modern, like, YouTube social media thing. If it's not the best, what's the point? Like, well, stuff is good for being what it is, right? Like, I can't be mad at it.

Maybe. Maybe he gave it two stars because, like, didn't they do two thumbs up? Maybe that's what he did.

Oh, maybe. I. I don't know if Siskel gave it a thumbs up. I know Ebert did.

Oh, you're right. Yeah. I would love to know what Siskel thought of this film.

Ebert, though, he probably didn't like it. He was a little more uptight than Ebert.

He died before, so he must not have liked it for man. Yeah, that's like the Curse of Inframan. If you didn't like it, you're known. It's like, scientifically proven to die earlier.

It's like the Ring, you know? Like this movie. You'll die 17 years later.

17 years, yeah.

But you, you've forgotten that you didn't watched it. You forgot to get the curse. Unless you're me, then you remember that curse every day of your life.

17 years. Like, all of a sudden, like, flashes start coming in your brain of the film. You're like, what's going on?

If your man crawls out of the TV and hits you with his, like,

boots explode your chest then. Yeah, as well. All while very bombastic. Like symphonic music's playing in the background.

Somebody with a. With a pot and a wooden spoons, clanging them constantly.

Do you hear that?

Clang, clang, clang, kink, kink. Like, what is it? Doesn't Line up with any motion on the screen. What is the pot being claimed with the spoon?

Your TV starts flashing brilliant colors as you see, like, a. A man starting to perform.

This movie starts with it. Like, it should have been warned. Like, hey, if you are sensitive photo sets, photostatic, whatever. Sensitive to that, like, flashing strobes. Please close your eyes because the first 30 seconds is intense.

Yes. I love that intro. It was cool.

It was too much for me. I did look away. I was afraid I was going to cause problems.

Well, that just means 25 years from now, Inframan's coming for you. He looked away. There's a lot of rules for this information. God damn it.

Inframan. 25 years from now puts me at 75. I'm welcoming information to come kick in my chest.

Then we're going to bury you in the cat's sanctuary.

Died doing what he loves, fearing Inframen.

I love to fear him. I would fear him if I saw him in real life.

God damn it, I would.

Yeah, He's a scary man. He's got a lot of ways to kill me. I feel like he's shaking his hand. He crushed my bones in the dust.

I keep. I keep things pretty chilly around the house, just in case.

Oh, yeah, you gotta freeze them. Yeah. His only weakness.

We. We went. We watched this whole movie, and we didn't talk about one person falling into the bottomless pit that is clear bottom with love.

Yeah, the cinema. Straight to hell.

I'm gonna kick you into a bottomless pit. I'm like, oh, you got time to think? No, you got about 30 seconds until you hit the lava.

I think it's a. It's the ultimate, like, sense of dread. We're like, oh, maybe it won't be so bad. And you, like, look down as you're falling, like, wait, what? No lava. It's a bottomless.

A lot of people burnt up in this movie. Not Infra man, though. He caught a ledge and then he rocketed himself out or something.

I guess forgot that he could fly.

Yeah, exactly.

Dang.

Oh, you in for me?

Yep. Thing. Yeah. I think everybody should have, like, a little pit to hell in their apartment. They could just start throwing this. They should.

Everyone should.

I mean, it would make. Make it a lot better for, like, recycling and stuff like that. You just throw everything in there.

It's not gonna get used for anything else.

Throw your garbage in there.

You know, it's just. It's an incinerator doing that. No recycling involved.

It's, like, good for the environment. If I just chuck my trash into

the center of the earth, it's not. Can't be worse than what we're currently doing.

It can't hurt it much more. Honestly, I don't know.

That's. You know, I know it's. We shouldn't do it, but why not take all of our trashes, launch it into the sun.

What's the problem? By the time it gets there, we're all going to be dead. It.

Yeah. It's gonna take forever to get there. It's just gonna burn up. And space is infinite.

That's true. It's meant for this.

It's. If anything it says please throw your trash out here.

There's probably like a sign out there that says that.

Yes.

Like I know, like, like, you know, extending out to the sun. We're all gonna be dead. But like five generations from now, they're like the sun's. You're gonna.

They're like, I will be long dead. Five generations.

But you know, we'll just let the new generations handle it. Yeah. If it is a problem, we don't foresee anything.

We're just burning it in the sun.

Why do we have to even shoot it at our sun to shoot a different sun?

Yeah, any sun will do any.

Honestly, any space that's not the sun is fine as well.

I think people don't understand how empty spaces.

I think they worry that it'll get stuck around Earth. But just shoot us strong enough and it won't. It'll just keep going.

Blast it. There's so much. So much emptiness in space.

Can you imagine though?

Throw it out there.

Okay, so like right now in the ocean we have Garbage Island.

Yes.

Now space is a lot bigger.

Garbage moon.

Garbage moon. We start getting enough trash collected together, it's starting to get its own gravitational pull. And now all the trash is starting to come to the garbage moon.

Yes.

That's why you would use. But that's why you would use a pit to hell instead.

I just like the idea of a bunch of aliens just chilling in the park, having a nice time. A bunch of garbage.

A bunch of Earth trash.

Yeah, it's an empty banana peel. Slaps him in the face.

Very specific earth trash. 72 TV guide and then the aliens

have a big old front for revenge. They start sending their trash back slap chop.

I'm trying to think of very specific trash.

It's the prequel to Independence Day. Yeah.

Garbage day. Garbage day. I guess at least with nothing to do.

No, we've covered just about everything.

We've covered as much as we could possibly cover thanks to Shaw Bros. So that leaves us with nothing to do but end this the way we end everything.

Garbage day.

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